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This is actually exactly why i Like the New system with tooltips.

Before, all the icons in space would move and form a big list, so i had no idea of their movement, relative positions or which icon was the one i was trying to target, which i found Really annoying. You had to click somewhere else then get a new list a lot.

Now i can actually see their movement and relative positions and the list of them at the same time, and if i want a new list i just move the mouse a little bit.

we don't want it to be different, we want it GONE or at least OPTIONAL

almost 1000 post, ALL asking for a way to DISABLE it, don't you understand what this means?

they prevent people from PLAYING!!

I apologize. I saw the word "huge" before "lag" and interpreted as a qualifier. As, typically, when someone qualifies something, it implies the non-qualified states of that something are not being addressed. Read: "I don't like meat" vs "I don't like rotten meat." et cetera.

But here's the rub, fancy effects = frame drops. The issue isn't "game shutting down." The issue is "UI is now significantly less responsive and less usable due to areas of the screen becoming mine fields that generate frame drops whenever the mouse crosses them."

Maxing out the delay is also less than an ideal option, as information like wallet balances, exact capacitor/armor/shield/hull figures, and training time benefit from being quickly available (not to imply the new tool tips really do this). But information like the names of modules on the HUD (and nothing further), what the various buttons do, and all the other redundant information that was shoveled into this "revamp" does not need to be viewed quickly, if ever. So the delay slider is making someone choose between losing the four or five useful tooltips or seeing all the useless tooptips "instantly" and suffering frame drops whenever they fade in and out. Meaning the tooltip delay slider is really just a choice between "would you like delays from input lag, delays on useful information, or both?"

Also, this might sound odd. But I'm pretty sure a large portion of the complaints about the new tooltip system would vanish were the fade effects optional/removed. As the old system was pretty finicky, but one could deal with said "finicks" instantly, rather than having to suffer frame drops whenever the system "finicked" from watching said "finicks" fade in and out. For, if the new tooltip system were as responsive as the old UI, then and only then could one say: Because to say something like this in regards to the UI as it currently exists is implying, somehow, its perfectly fine for the UI of anything to be (in order of importance) slow, cumbersome, redundant, and occasionally insulting. To say, if the tooltips weren't slow and cumbersome, people wouldn't have much of a problem with them being redundant and insulting. To be redundant, the unresponsiveness of the new UI is the wound, the redundancy and minor insults (WOW! THE X CLOSES?!) are salt in said wound.



I play in "fixed window" and I get frame drops whenever the tooltips fade in/out. Whats sad is I can't really call that a bug, as, duh, fade effects can't not equal a performance hit.

Here is yet another major issue I have with the new brackets in space. I believe this is a recent change--the window seems to have been made smaller. Here is an example (an unusual one in that the list is typically much longer--e.g., if I had my mouse over the station cluster it would be much longer):
http://imgur.com/gjNUruq

As a result of the list being smaller, I cannot often read what types of ships are featured. I can figure out the types of two of the ships in this list because they have the ship type in their name still, or they have very short names. But on the bottom one and on many ships, the name is too long so I cannot see what ship type it is. . . . This has got to be the stupidest change yet to the bracket system. In response to the overwhelmingly negative response, you try to band-aid it by making the window smaller, but it only lessens other problems while at the same time introducing even bigger new ones. FFS.

Honestly, what kind of functionality does this have?
Zero.

The changes made by the devs involved in this project have been one pointless scramble after another at patching up a fundamentally BAD IDEA. Somehow, you keep making it worse.

Seriously, just revert the brackets back to the old system--you know, the one that worked just fine.

I prolonged my subscription using my ingame savings - hope upcoming Kronos expansion will solve this tooltip madness.
If not - this will be end of John Lawyer's history. Sorry, but my new tooltiping EVE is no more PVPable.

One more thing about UI:
I usualy overheat modules by shift+clicking it.
Noticed that appearing tooltip blocks right next module in a rack (which I want to overheat too) - shoud I say this is bad?
Just imagine PVP situation when your win/death depends on have you your scram/web overheated.
Fade time is too long for my speed.

Also, I can like or dislike some style-related things like undock button location, skillbook's pictograms etc.. they can be measured at like/dislike scale. Flavor.
But tooltips case is something different - it affects functionality, not only 'stylish' side.
And functionality can only be measured by good/poor scale.
50pages of this thread says they have poor functionality.

So, why just not roll them back? EVERYONE will like it.

We're stuck in an indefinite loop of *feedback*, "We're looking into things", *feedback*, "we're looking into things"...

I've read all 50 pages, and this is the best idea I've heard so far.

I really hope you are giving us an option of an Off button. Multi Boxing 4 accts. in windowed mode is a pain with tool tips staying open and blocking screens. It makes it really hard to do anything when the screen is full of boxes of tool tips.

also,

The "delay" option does not work for objects in space, ie. moons, planets, belts, ships, etc. This is probably the most annoying feature of the release. I really dont need a list that I have to scroll through to find the belt/planet/gate I need to warp too.

Here we go with the usual CCP arrogance - we know better than the thousands of you who don't like something so you can all **** off if you don't like it.

Well I'm giving serious consideration to doing just that.

This sort of "**** the customer, we know best" bullshit is endemic in most Scandinavian companies (like Nokia used to be) and is the reason most of them fail (sooner or later) outside their home countries.

So in space brackets are still useless and if we wish to use them like we used to we have to have the inflight tooltips on still. However the inspace tooltips you now have to scroll still, it blocks the screen with a black box (this still needs to be made more transparent if it is to be kept) and also it truncates the infomation on clusters of belts so you can't see which is which.

Please bring back the old brackets in space so they are useable and if you really want the more seasoned players to use the inflight tooltips make the box more transparent.

Also still having a problem on when the delay is set to max if i hover and wait for a tooltip it displays but when i move to a different object it then displays the tooltip instantly.

It is all getting very frustrating now and there is no updates on if these problems are going to be addressed or just swept under the carpet and left as is. Suggestions to us as users from you guy's to how you think the problems could be solved and getting feedback from users before crippling game play even more and then spending ages with minor unhelpful changes.

Communicating with the user base will get you more assistance than complaints. Help us the end users help you.

We want to play the game that is why we are here. But useless unusable and distracting walls of text popping up all over the gameplay and in the way deter us from playing especially when being told it isn't working that it is just left in instead of going back to the beginning and trying it all over again. It is more helpful than adding and adding and adding more and more gumpf to solve a p