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No,*Snip* Removed off topic part of the post. ISD Ezwal.

Because they are redoing the entirety of industry and how it works and removing old legacy code etc and they STILL aren't getting rid/fixing the t2 BPO issue. That's why.

Because the 1st blog was already a small novel. I don't blame them at all for wanting to do it in smaller, more detailed sections.

Hysterical over reactions in this case is not CCP's fault. They've been crystal clear about what each of the upcoming blogs will cover.

Heh, undoubtedly.

No, I see the point that constructive speculation can be a good thing... but it oh so easily gets swept off into the realm of "worst case what if" scenario's that make little if any sense. Those discussions are counter productive, especially when they stem from a misunderstanding of how things currently work in game, providing false assumptions as to how potential changes will affect those behaviors/mechanics.

No, *Snip* Removed off topic part of the post. ISD Ezwal.

Hello,

have you read my suggestion post?

I think it's a good idea and I am starting to get likes about it

The issue regarding how to migrate blueprints using starbase when the expansion hits has been noted. We'll update this thread when we have more information about this.

I am almost giggling to see 6 dev blogs concerning industry. Thank you! It is almost enough to make me forget that I will have to throw out a lot of work and start over.

I am sorry you could not fit invention into the schedule. The invention interface has been steadily nibbling away at my sanity.

How long ago did the t2 BPO lottery end?
At LEAST 5+ years ago (Source), although I've heard estimates of 7-8 years ago (source).

You might have had a case for obliterating T2 BPOs many, many years ago, where people originally obtained t2 BPO's using a fair amount of effort with a dosing of luck. However, at this point, most people that have them worked for them (by thieving, killing, or buying them). Removing them now is just wrong on many levels, primarily because you're destroying years of efforts of many players that use them as investment items, which acquired them by fair and balanced means.

Now, no one can dispute that T2 BPO's allow players to produce a t2 items more profitably compared to invention (that is, when you ignore the cost of acquiring the T2 BPO and look at a manufacturing cost on a per item basis). But most items in game are profitably produced by invention, and attacking the T2 BPO holders really won't result in you making more isk (instead, those T2 QQ'ers that "can't compete" will just realize more quickly that they are just bad at T2 Production, probably because they aren't informed).

So, before you respond, you need to go look at the facts:

In March 2012, the percentage of modules produce from invention:

93.95% of T2 Gyrostabilizers,
89.77% of 1400mm II,
87.34% of 425mm Rail II,
82.00% of Tachyon II,
74.23% of Torpedo Launcher II.

In March 2012, the percentage of ships produce from invention:

90.23% of Hulks,
67.85% of Sabres
65.01% of Wolves
22.16% of Pilgrims
6.00% of Eagles

Data Source
Additional Data Source
Direct Source <-- Have to search to find the relevant tweets.

Here's the point: Modules and Ammo are primarily produced through invention, so removal of those BPO's wont do anything but HURT the BPO holder. These producers wont see more profit, and the consumers wont get any items cheaper. Considering the work most BPO holders put in to acquire their BPO, this is just cruel and wrong to do!!!! Now, some specific T2 ship production is often dominated by t2 BPO holders, however these items move slowly and are typically priced BELOW the invention production cost. As such, removing these BPO's would result in HIGHER PRICES for people that want to buy these ships! How is that good???? Sure, it means people that want to produce Eagles via invention could then make a profit, but who wants to reward the idiotic fool that is trying to produce slow moving T2 Ships for profit by paying more for those ships????

I have few more points:
1.) Supply and Demand Market forcing very much sets the price point in this game.
♦ For any item with a high rate of movement, T2 BPO's produce very little of the market volume. What this means to inventors is that they are primarily competing against other inventors. T2 BPO producers enjoy healthy profit margins without messing up your profits.
♦ For any item with a very low rate of movement, T2 BPO's produce the majority of the market volume. What this means to inventors is that they have a very hard time competing in the market. So what! When competition is present, it is very hard to make a profit in these highly competitive markets, even if T2 BPO holders didn't exist. The competent inventor either knows the risks going in and uses other market tools to earn their profit (convenience, etc).

2.) T2 BPO's bring value to the game. They insure low-volume goods may be produced at a reasonable price. They are rare collectibles who's value varies significantly while retaining a level of utility. They are coveted, creating a source of conflict.

3.) Many serious producers secure moongoo and minerals at below market value. If you are competing against them, you're just going to lose, as they're material costs are far lower than yours. Should this be fixed too? I think not, I like getting cheaper items.

4.) This is the duplicate of an old post I made. Many things have changed in the last two years (new decrytpors, ship balance changes have altered supply/demand curves, the moongoo bottleneck has changed), but the message is the same. You can make plenty of isk via invention, and you can compete in most MFG markets. If you are having trouble making ends meet, it is because of your incompetence, not because of some mythical T2 BPO holder! There is no reason to remove T2 BPO's from the game at this stage, as they don't offer you any advantages you can't utilize yourself (because you too can buy a T2 BPO).

CCP:

One thing you didn't address in the changes to R.A.M. is what you will do with existing R.A.M. modules in the game. I assume you will simply multiply all the current R.A.M. mods in game by 100 to keep the balance, but would like confirmation.

I bring this up, because I have 1000's of R.A.M. items that I use for production, which represents 100m isk worth of materials. If you are NOT going to alter the number of R.A.M. I have to be equivalent to the new R.A.M. consumption/production rates, then I can simply plan to use up all the R.A.M. I have no problems. I simply would like clarification so I can plan appropriately.

YES. POS slots will be affected by congestion pricing.

We do not know how much it will be and we do not know if there will be other changes that also relate to the economies of running a POS, so there is no need for panic at this time.