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* They can suicide your ass and you cannot go back to said corp for another 7 days.
* You have to create a new corp, how else be the first in it?
* You will be caught up with unless you have an unlimited supply of corporations with proper standings ready.

Your counter argument is a fairy tale at best, an excuse to get whatever YOU want!




CCP adds a compression facility that was not there before, and you call it a stick.

It is not like younger players have compression BPOs or even high enough skills to get the benefit of them, if they buy BPCs. Compression is a new lure for them, calling it a stick is disingenuous. You clearly have a hidden agenda as you are constantly misrepresenting everything to get your desired feature accepted. The straws you grasp at are getting thinner by the minute.

That said, i do not feel like spending more of my time playing your forum game...it is not particularly productive.

Also, hidden agenda? My agenda is quite clear -- I want compression to be as accessible as possible so there is more compressed ore available for me and mine to import to nullsec. My goals happen to dovetail nicely with other concerns as well.

a botting compression pos is 100% safe


you haven't debunked anything, you've just repeated bad arguments over and over again and demonstrated fundamental misunderstandings of how the game works and good game design

really, you have to have a completely fundamentally absurd idea of what risk in eve is to think that a highsec pos that never holds anything of value whatsoever is at risk to anyone, short of you pissing off someone so badly they'll waste hours of their time to cost you pennies

in no situation will your compression pos ever be at risk. in no situation will your freighter going to and from your compression pos ever be at risk. you have to imagine an insane sequence of incredibly stupid events to even have the slightest risk your 100m small pos is killed.

And, even if someone DOES wardec your poshaving corporation, you can just abuse corporation standings and creation mechanics to safeguard your investment.

Of course he has a hidden agenda. He's probably sitting on a huge pile of ore in a high-sec station in preparation for the summer expansion and realizes that, come summer, he will have to transport it from a station to a POS to get the ore compressed, for which he will need many, many, many freighter trips of soul crushing tedium to do.

If I was implying that station compression had to be instant, I didn't mean to. Having a small cost in isk or time (or both) for station compression is perfectly acceptable to me.

You are not reading, just a mere few posts ago i demonstrated using current game mechanics it is not safe. It can be taken out, you cannot simply retract it and get away with it if the enemy party is prepared for that. Disputing that is just a hollow claim, repeating lies does not make it truth.



That is a broad claim, backup up by nothing, and which quite frankly you cannot back up. You can have different opinions about what is good game design, but you cannot dispute market and logistic dynamics. That is how people react to their environment, it involves distances, time, organisation. Measurable and predictable quantities that lead to certain outcome possibilities.

The game is more complex then you know or let on to. It is more complex then "null needs compressed ore and with compression in stations even new players on their own can supply said ore". But it is the way you and "Weaselior" try to present it.

Introducing NPC ORE compression gives null more pricing power versus other sources of this form or ore. With it, the refining benefit suddenly expands beyond null localized industry. It is doubtful this is CCPs desire. It gives null the more pricing power versus local producers and puts the squeeze on the high sec miners who would otherwise be the sole source for both high sec producers and null alike.

Enabling NPC station ORE compression would accomplish exactly what industrial opponents to these changes fear.

The thing is, your simple version of the game does not take other parties into account that are connected. You just present it as null need/buys, and newbie can get a good price. This simplification presents a non existing scenario, designed to lure others into thinking it is a good idea.

I hate to tack on anything additional when I think these changes are supremely great, but I have to admit that adding in a production delay for both compression and refining would be cool as hell.

In fact, the refining skill could increase the number of lines that you could run at one time. The refining efficiency skill could speed up how long those lines take to run. Instantaneous anything in the industry game is a mistake.

Also, wardecs due to our compression POS. Our group has discussed this already.

If someone is daft enough to dec us due to the POS, then we will use the 24 hour ramp up to build a Goonswarm Federation approved D!ckstar(TM): Large Caldari POS, 13(?) appropriate hardeners to achieve nearly even 70% shield resists across all damage types, plus even number of racial ECM modules, as many as will fit (4x4 = 16, I believe).

If anybody is insane enough to even try and take that down in HiSec without access to dreads, then they can have it. That would almost be a reverse grief if ever I saw one.

(I assume d!ckstars still work, has been a while since I lived in Null...)