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Worlds Within a World - The EVE Universe Monument

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Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc
#221 - 2014-02-05 19:56:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Liner Xiandra
TigerXtrm wrote:
I feel a LOT of people are missing the point here.

This monument isn't just a matter of 'yay spaceships'. It's a genuine real life tribute to one of the largest export products in Iceland and the accomplishments CCP Games made in the last 10 years. The amount of people in this thread who are so self centered to think everything should be coming back to them in some form is really disgusting to be honest.

What's next? We're going to bash on CCP because they spend your subscription money on a new vending machine in the cafeteria? Get real people, just dig deep into your bitterness and find the little bit of empathy you have left to congratulate CCP as a company for accomplishing stuff like this.


" Let's celebrate the most unique online community with the most bland, uninspiring slabs of material out there. "

I'm pretty pleased with having my name up there on a monument, or even having any EVE related monument out there.
The presentation however, (judging by the renders we got) is a massive letdown.
Mia Restolo
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#222 - 2014-02-05 20:21:47 UTC
I think its cool.

Doesn't Eve have 500k active subscribers? That's a lot of names to put on there!
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#223 - 2014-02-05 20:22:29 UTC
Actually, now I have something to do IRL. I have to go to iceland, find my name, and PAINT FRICKIN' FLAMES AROUND IT!

Yar.

It's neat. The monument. It's a neat monument. Player built stargates would be more neat... but this is cool.

Signatures should be used responsibly...

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#224 - 2014-02-05 20:28:00 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Were it "up to me"™, I would go further on the "worlds within worlds" theme:


1. On the monument, instead of mirrors in the central part, large LCD screens with some cameras stationed on it.
2. An identical monument in the game, on a planet or in a station somewhere. The central piece would have a video feed of what the RL monument is "seeing".
3. The RL monument has the actual-in game view of what the in-game monument is "seeing".


That way when you see the RL monument you can see who in the game is at the monument. In game you see what's going on around the RL monument. That's a world-within-a world for you and a high level of epic.

Entire articles would be written about this "bridge between MMO and the real world".

Though we can probably file that under "easier said than done". Oh the cost...


When I first read "worlds withing worlds", I actually got a little tingly thinking CCP went into overdrive and dropped something of the concept you know about onto Sisi. That feeling lasted about 2 seconds.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#225 - 2014-02-05 20:29:11 UTC
Gogela wrote:
Actually, now I have something to do IRL. I have to go to iceland, find my name, and PAINT FRICKIN' FLAMES AROUND IT!

Yar.

It's neat. The monument. It's a neat monument. Player built stargates would be more neat... but this is cool.


Yeah, how long before certain names are vandalized on the thing.
You KNOW it is going to happen.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#226 - 2014-02-05 20:32:28 UTC
Wow.

Seriously?

Oh yes this is much better than modular POS

Why do we give CCP money?
Seras Victoria Egivand
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#227 - 2014-02-05 20:36:26 UTC
Not sure about this one its a cool thing that there building a statue.
On the same token i cant help but feel bad about all the people that got laid off from ccp or the lack of any real development or progress on fixing there game.. I also at the same time feel the money for this could have been better spent elsewhere...
SIrera Artrald
Titans Rising
#228 - 2014-02-05 20:52:45 UTC
WOW! Just how selfish and uncultured can people get. . . CCP is choosing to support a local artist (who has done a fantastic job collaborating with the art department at CCP and who has a far more refined taste then the some of the people putting forth their sad ideas for an improvement) and in the process they are honoring the city and country in which all this was begun!

Yet here we get a thread of self centered and uncultured people complaining about the wasted man hours and money! You're right! I'm sure all those CCP employees are hard at work wasting development time erecting that monument withe their bare hands instead of working at their jobs improving this game.

Life is a bitch but she's totally doable. She may be a beauty but life, life is a bitch.

Seras Victoria Egivand
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#229 - 2014-02-05 21:02:38 UTC
SIrera Artrald wrote:
WOW! Just how selfish and uncultured can people get. . . CCP is choosing to support a local artist (who has done a fantastic job collaborating with the art department at CCP and who has a far more refined taste then the some of the people putting forth their sad ideas for an improvement) and in the process they are honoring the city and country in which all this was begun!

Yet here we get a thread of self centered and uncultured people complaining about the wasted man hours and money! You're right! I'm sure all those CCP employees are hard at work wasting development time erecting that monument withe their bare hands instead of working at their jobs improving this game.



Your missing the point between layoff's at ccp.. Them not focusing on fixing EvE No real content. And other issues We dont think right now was the greatest time to do this... While its cool and we feel honored they would do this.. We also feel that money could be better spent.

I feel the worst for the people that got laid off from ccp because they don't have the money... But they have the money for this?

Thats were were confused.
Kirren D'marr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#230 - 2014-02-05 21:03:16 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
The amount of people in this thread who are so self centered to think everything should be coming back to them in some form is really disgusting to be honest.


Because turning down what you feel is undeserved recognition is the definition of "self centered," but putting up a self-congratulatory monument to your own company's greatness is not.

What is disgusting is people trying to equate this with monuments that actually mean something.

Gerald Sphinx wrote:
Kirren D'marr wrote:
That's just it, we didn't do anything to deserve such an honor; we played a game!!!


"Didn't do anything"? The vast majority of the events that unfolded in the past 11 years were OUR doing. These events within the game are what helped Eve Online capture the hearts and minds of new players who never heard of Eve Online. Are you saying these events that were the result of us "doing something" mean practically nothing to you?


You cut off my quote without the context; try reading the whole thing: "we didn't do anything to deserve such an honor". I was responding specifically to the idea that having our characters' names on this monument was an honor somehow equal to that of "an emperor, pharaoh, or honored soldier." The very idea is ludicrous. Yes, we've done a lot in 11 years, it's been fun, and in some ways, even meaningful on a personal level; but in the end, it's still just entertainment. It's a game that really doesn't matter to anyone who doesn't play it, at least not beyond the occasional amusing news story. It's hardly the sort of thing to equate to people who have changed the course of history or laid down their lives for their countries. The lack of perspective in this thread is astounding!

To borrow from William Shatner's famous Trekkie SNL skit: "GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a [computer game]!" The idea that a game is worthy of such a memorial is sheer hubris. Anyone who doesn't see that needs to go out and learn what really matters in life.

Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.     _ - Kina Ayami_

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#231 - 2014-02-05 21:08:16 UTC
Well you've fulfilled my expecations.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Kirren D'marr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#232 - 2014-02-05 21:10:09 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Well you've fulfilled my expecations.


And you've fulfilled mine, so I guess we're even.

Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.     _ - Kina Ayami_

Sarton Wells
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#233 - 2014-02-05 21:14:47 UTC
Kirren D'marr wrote:
To borrow from William Shatner's famous Trekkie SNL skit: "GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a [computer game]!" The idea that a game is worthy of such a memorial is sheer hubris. Anyone who doesn't see that needs to go out and learn what really matters in life.


And yet you're here wasting your time writing about this. I'm sorry but this sounds very hypocritical. Either you're right and this monument means nothing so you can safely ignore all of this as a PR stunt or this actually means something to some people. Whether you think their opinion is arrogant is absolutely irrelevant. If some people like it - great for them. If some people don't - you can ignore it since it doesn't affect you one single bit.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#234 - 2014-02-05 21:17:21 UTC
My main character C40ks0nD1ck would like to know if he can use a Plex for a name change?
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#235 - 2014-02-05 21:17:42 UTC
Lots of people played the "guess what the countdown is for!" game but I want to make an observation: every guess related to Eve Online.

Imagining that Eve players universally get excited about a mildly interesting piece of art in a country they'll never visit is .. it's something.

It's a faux pas because it draws attention to the fact you have nothing interesting about Eve to announce, particularly now, when you have so many new players in a trial period. Does a player playing for a week care about this? Do you imagine for one moment they'll sub their trial so they can get "xXx Captain Pain xXx" on a monument?

Indeed.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

SIrera Artrald
Titans Rising
#236 - 2014-02-05 21:23:43 UTC
Seras Victoria Egivand wrote:
SIrera Artrald wrote:
WOW! Just how selfish and uncultured can people get. . . CCP is choosing to support a local artist (who has done a fantastic job collaborating with the art department at CCP and who has a far more refined taste then the some of the people putting forth their sad ideas for an improvement) and in the process they are honoring the city and country in which all this was begun!

Yet here we get a thread of self centered and uncultured people complaining about the wasted man hours and money! You're right! I'm sure all those CCP employees are hard at work wasting development time erecting that monument withe their bare hands instead of working at their jobs improving this game.



Your missing the point between layoff's at ccp.. Them not focusing on fixing EvE No real content. And other issues We dont think right now was the greatest time to do this... While its cool and we feel honored they would do this.. We also feel that money could be better spent.

I feel the worst for the people that got laid off from ccp because they don't have the money... But they have the money for this?

Thats were were confused.


They have a huge team and I'm pretty sure two concept artist and a local artist collaborating on a monument is not "losing focus on EvE" besides that the actual cost o the monument is insignifacant to the amount that CCP makes. it will not change anything inside the company! Development of EvE will continue! Be realistic!

Life is a bitch but she's totally doable. She may be a beauty but life, life is a bitch.

Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#237 - 2014-02-05 21:28:19 UTC
For the record criticism ≠ cynicism.



Sabik now, Sabik forever

Kirren D'marr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#238 - 2014-02-05 21:33:23 UTC
Sarton Wells wrote:
Kirren D'marr wrote:
To borrow from William Shatner's famous Trekkie SNL skit: "GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a [computer game]!" The idea that a game is worthy of such a memorial is sheer hubris. Anyone who doesn't see that needs to go out and learn what really matters in life.


And yet you're here wasting your time writing about this. I'm sorry but this sounds very hypocritical. Either you're right and this monument means nothing so you can safely ignore all of this as a PR stunt or this actually means something to some people. Whether you think their opinion is arrogant is absolutely irrelevant. If some people like it - great for them. If some people don't - you can ignore it since it doesn't affect you one single bit.


Honestly, in the long run, the monument doesn't matter to me. I think it's a poor use of resources for a company that has had to lay off staff recently, but that's about it. If Hilmar wants to build a giant phallic tribute to himself and his company, fine, whatever, Nero fiddles while Rome burns and all that.

What bothers me is the idea put forth by several in this thread that playing a game is somehow an accomplishment deserving of recognition equal to that given to fallen soldiers. If you get your name (or rather, your fictional character's name) inscribed on a piece of stone in Reykjavik, and you think that's cool, good for you. But don't try to put it on the same level as the memorialization of those who have given their lives for their countries.

As I said before, I have worn the uniform of my country. Many of those whom I trained with and served with have died wearing that uniform. Claiming that having your (fake) name on a stone alongside that of some 40 year old manchild living in his parents' basement and playing EVE in his underwear (you know there's at least one of them in this game) just because you played a computer game for a few years is somehow an honor equal to those who have made the ultimate sacrifice defending the home they love is an insult to the memory of the fallen.

That is the idea that enrages me, and it is that idea that I am railing against. The fact that some here cannot see how self important and disgusting that idea is shakes my faith in humanity. I knew some aspects of EVE attracted certain personalities, but this is by far the worst attitude I have seen come out of this game: to inflate one's own importance to equate your engaging in a hobby with the actions of those who fight for and die for the rights of others.

Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.     _ - Kina Ayami_

Neryman Tulocky
AREA 43
#239 - 2014-02-05 21:35:22 UTC
Thank you for honoring your player base, CCP!


...and delete the names of all these people that are permanently complaining about allmost everything you're doing from the monument. They don't deserve to be remembered by name on such an unique sculpture.
SIrera Artrald
Titans Rising
#240 - 2014-02-05 21:36:34 UTC
Neryman Tulocky wrote:
Thank you for honoring your player base, CCP!


...and delete the names of all these people that are permanently complaining about allmost everything you're doing from the monument. They don't deserve to be remembered by name on such an unique sculpture.


I certainly agree with this!

Life is a bitch but she's totally doable. She may be a beauty but life, life is a bitch.