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Worlds Within a World - The EVE Universe Monument

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Tysun Kane
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#161 - 2014-02-05 17:15:26 UTC
Monument looks great and cool as **** to have our names on it thank you CCP.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#162 - 2014-02-05 17:15:40 UTC
Mug Costanza wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


I like the "taking the names from the Forums" idea much better though.



Another one for the opt-out feature! Maybe CCP will listen.



I won't opt out, but that seems to be the only way to satisfy both sides here.

I feel really nauseated (for real) from all this. It's just appalling.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#163 - 2014-02-05 17:16:44 UTC
When someone gives you a gift you say "Thank You".

Then throw it in the trash or ignore it if you want.

And we don't need to hear about it.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Utsukushi Shi
State War Academy
Caldari State
#164 - 2014-02-05 17:16:46 UTC
This sounds pretty awesome.

Thanks CCP. Can't wait to see pictures.
Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#165 - 2014-02-05 17:17:10 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
How is this Vanity ? What does CCP have to gain ?


A giant monument outside of their headquarters.

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Just what is CCP trying to white-wash as you imply by inference to "distracting from the truth" advertising methods.


There's no conspiracy. The advertising thing was a sarcastic joke. I was making fun of Malcanis and his ridiculous notion that this monument was about hiring more developers.

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
This whole thing has done nothing but show how unimaginative and lame most of this playerbase actually is.


I would actually say it points to how unimaginative CCP is.

Look at our expansion packs and how empty they are. Where are the new ideas?
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#166 - 2014-02-05 17:18:04 UTC
Thank you CCP. I'm a lover of the arts, all arts in fact and look forward to visiting Iceland to see if my name is on it.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...

Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
Kvitravn.
#167 - 2014-02-05 17:19:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Sephira Galamore
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Or, how about a mechanic on the Account management page so that people can opt out if they are so insulted about being celebrated for supporting the game for so long ?

I like that idea.
Less names makes mine easier to find! :D

Also, I am now extra glad that I already got tickets etc. for Fanfest so I can see live!
SpaceSaft
Almost Dangerous
Wolves Amongst Strangers
#168 - 2014-02-05 17:23:04 UTC
Just want to say that I was looking forward to something exciting, EvE related for the last week.

Overall underwhelming, disappointing and a waste of both my time and CCP's funds.

If you want something that lasts, make a game people remember not a monument that will be considered scrap metal some day.

I can't really express how I feel about this, so I won't.

I really wish I wouldn't have invested my self in this as much.
Morihei Akachi
Doomheim
#169 - 2014-02-05 17:23:17 UTC
I’m fully in favour of this. I especially like the fact that the monument is abstract and non-representational. The people calling for it to look like something in-game should consider: this thing will still be standing in 100 years’ time: how often will the ships and stations have been remodelled by then? Hell, even the empires and their various insignia might not last forever. By bearing no visual relationship to anything in the game itself, the monument can stand for it regardless of what changes the devs in the coming decades make (and in fact I see that Hilmar is talking about centuries).

More generally, the objections people are making to the monument on the grounds that the money should have been put towards something useful in-game are exactly the objections that can be made to EvE itself: so much time and money poured into space pixels. These pixels cure no diseases, stop no wars, save no lives. From the utilitarian perspective some people are urging here, we should all unsub and start donating our monthly $15 to charities and NGOs instead. Art, whether in the form of a virtual universe or a monument, is always going to be ‘useless’. Accusing it of that seems to me to be missing the point.

"Enduring", "restrained" and "ample" as designations for starship components are foreign to the genre of high-tech science fiction and don’t belong in Eve Online. (And as for “scoped” …)

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#170 - 2014-02-05 17:34:51 UTC
Hells, its ccp's money, they can do what they want with it. And I like and still like, the statue idea/practice. I liked it when they made the first announcement back in 2007. And I like it now.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#171 - 2014-02-05 17:36:42 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:


Yes, some of us are going to chuckle that CCP is undertaking a vanity project as a sad publicity stunt.

It reminds me of trying to cure the economy through advertising that the economy is good - and then justifying it by talking about all those jobs you created by making the advertisement in the first place.



How is this Vanity ? What does CCP have to gain ? This is costing them a lot of ISK, literally ISK.

Just what is CCP trying to white-wash as you imply by inference to "distracting from the truth" advertising methods.

Just what, really ?

This whole thing has done nothing but show how unimaginative and lame most of this playerbase actually is.

I seriously hope CCP is doing the high school teacher thing and "taking names". Those who are vehemently opposed to this should be left off the monument without question.

And that is very easily done. Or, how about a mechanic on the Account management page so that people can opt out if they are so insulted about being celebrated for supporting the game for so long ?

I like the "taking the names from the Forums" idea much better though.


You know what is funny.
How will one ever know their name was removed from the list, unless one travels to Iceland and scans the whole damn statue for their name? Exactly how many people are going to do that?

I just had another tinfoil moment.
This is actually brilliant marketing by CCP.

They can organize pilgrimages throughout the year (Fanfest attendees just won't have enough time / be sober / not hung over enough to make the trip to the harbour) to the newest Eve shrine, and make coin off of that, selling mini-monuments done on pewter, just like they do ships.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#172 - 2014-02-05 17:39:16 UTC
can i have one for my garden?

monument4plex

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Speedkermit Damo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#173 - 2014-02-05 17:42:48 UTC
It's a nice idea.

If sov mechanics and pos mechanics ever get fixed, I'll build another monument out of solid gold.

Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.

jolanai
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#174 - 2014-02-05 17:46:37 UTC
Ruskarn Andedare wrote:
MuraSaki Siki wrote:
great RL event :D

the hyperlink in
http://eve.com/monument-about-the-monument

"More on the time capsule will be announced at www.eve.com/monument " <= this hyperlink is broken


The http://eve.com/monument link works for me


CCP's pretty good about content management.

Pirate
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#175 - 2014-02-05 17:48:17 UTC
I for one appreciate the monument. If there is something I'm disappointed with, it is the complete lack of realistic expectations from some of the players. Yes a timer is meant to create expectations and enthusiasm, but it was a timer buried in the community page, so it was obvious even CCP didn't want to advertise it too much. Unsurprisingly it turned out to be a community related cool thing instead of an item from your personal EVE wish list. If there is a lesson for CCP to (re)learn, it's to manage player expectations, since some people have trouble doing it themselves.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#176 - 2014-02-05 17:50:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
The timer ruined it. Over hyping **** pisses people off. CCP of all people should understand this, given their history of doing this over and over again.

I remember hearing about this at Fanfest and thinking it was awesome. A single dev blog announcement would have made significantly more sense, instead of getting people's hopes up.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#177 - 2014-02-05 17:57:44 UTC
I'd prefer the money used for this to be spent hiring programmers, writers, developers, artists, and re-hiring all of the people that CCP laid off in the past.

Glad some of you are excited for this, but it's hard to feel that way.

Sabik now, Sabik forever

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#178 - 2014-02-05 18:03:48 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
I'd prefer the money used for this to be spent hiring programmers, writers, developers, artists, and re-hiring all of the people that CCP laid off in the past.

Glad some of you are excited for this, but it's hard to feel that way.



I think you have wrong ideas about what a community team is supposed to do.

Never mind, you can console yourself with the knowledge that you are too cool and cynical to enjoy something like this. I hope you will spare a little mote of pity for poor fools like me who know no better than to be really happy.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Jurou Yuan
Wolfraam 74
#179 - 2014-02-05 18:13:01 UTC
A monument to a video game.

hahaha.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#180 - 2014-02-05 18:13:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Silas Vitalia
Malcanis wrote:
Silas Vitalia wrote:
I'd prefer the money used for this to be spent hiring programmers, writers, developers, artists, and re-hiring all of the people that CCP laid off in the past.

Glad some of you are excited for this, but it's hard to feel that way.



I think you have wrong ideas about what a community team is supposed to do.

Never mind, you can console yourself with the knowledge that you are too cool and cynical to enjoy something like this. I hope you will spare a little mote of pity for poor fools like me who know no better than to be really happy.



Like I said I'm glad that others are excited for this if they choose to be. I'm sure the community team put a lot of work into this and they can be happy about what they are doing.

My issue (and based on most of the replies in the thread a lot of other people) is about why this is a thing that is being done at all.


One of the chief criticisms in years past was about ccp not being focused on the game. Losing focus, doing lots of other things and side projects that the subscribers were not interested in.

This sounds like history repeating itself. What?

Sabik now, Sabik forever