Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm surprised to see you say this, given you stated earlier you live in unknown space. If what you said is true, then the number of inhabitants in unknown space would be exactly zero. Given the fact that you don't have local and even if the direction scanner doesn't show any ships out there, there is no way to be 100% sure it is safe. There was even some hesitation to not include local with it was designed in fear no one would use, much less live in those types of conditions.

Guess what? Players did move in. It was literally a shot hear around the galaxy that said, "Yes, we will actually leave the safety of the POS shield to do things out there even though we are not 100% sure it is safe." So you see, players will use all tools and intel available to ensure their internet spaceships is safe. The issue is outside of unknown space they currently have access to the tools and intel to make sure their ship will be 100% safe.

Unknown space proved that players will still play the game, even if they can't get 100% on the safety. Perhaps I am crazy, but I believe it should not be possible to be 100% safe. While this direction scanner immobilizer thing is a bit rough right now, it is a step in the right direction to lower the safety below 100%.

Am I the only one that thinks that these new structures are completely stupid and would like them not to be added to the game?

I am particularly concerned with the mobile dscan disruptor in FW plex.

Effectively this is like a cloaking device without any penalty. With cloak, at least there is penalty in scan resolution and sensor calibration delay. Although the opponent may decloak, you will have time to decide whether the engagement is 'fair' or lopsided.

With dscan disruptor, you effectively need to jump in blind - and your opponent can immediately react to you. Alternatively, you have a 'throwable scout alt' to check on each of the site prior to jumping into FW plex. So much for solo roaming...

Please consider some sort of 'penalty' for deploying the mobile dscan disruptor either:
1. pilot inside the dscan disruptor bubble cannot use dscan, or
2. similar to cloaking module, there is penalty to the scan resolution and some sort of targettng delay

Well, I can imagine some really nasty tactics with this "not"-so mighty tool for mining ops in Low-Sec.

Need definitly to try those out.


Afais they aren't senseless. They will block ur mighty D-Scan. Enough for me. Because atm. the only way to "counter" this tool, was Cloaking.
And afaik u can go and take a look.
So far looks fine for me.

Greetings

Ok thets my ideas as a mostly solo\small scale pilot
D-scan disruptors:
- they should be at least 200m3 volume if not 300+
To prevent them from being spammed in anomalies, i know this whouldn't work, but still.
- d scan disruptors should prevent mobile disruptors from being anchored in range or at least they should not cover them.
We already have cloaky distors, thats enough.
- there should be beacons on d-scan disruptors
Because you can't afford to fit probes if you're alone or at least fit them fast enough with mobile depot, not to mention scanning will take time.
- they shouldn't be placed in areas where you can't control your warp distance
Any plex pockets come to mind immediately
- they shouldn't be placed near wormholes same as gates i doubt that they should work in wormholes at all but thats mostly about entrances to w-space
They act like gates so they should follow the same rules for the same reasons
- they shouldn't work in w-space at all
Wormholes about d-scan thats all it is.
- they maybe should be targetable by NPCs and there fore they should have far less hitpoints to prevent their usage as a buffer
If you want to prevent the whole system from being spammed with them and allow only strategical use NPCs sould pick them off ASAP, otherwise you can just jump into amomaly with your 2 days alt and place d-scan disruptor in each or at least in most of them.

MMJD:
- there should be cooldown on MJD if MMJD used
Otherwise BS can get 200 KM away in no time
- cloaky ships shouldn't be able to use it, except covert cloaked ones
But anyway it's broken because you can place it within 100 KM from anomaly and then MJD your Naga 200 KM away still being able to hit whatever will come to you, being nearly uncatchable by most of the ships. And it again can be done on a frigate.

Dear CCP,

TL'DR

Please fix your ******* Pos and SOV mechanics instead of putting out this childish and plain ******** bullshit.

and for the mercy of god...
stop adding crap that allows people to permantly run away.
I.e. mobile depots for instant warp core fit and now this ******* anti scan/MJD thing.

Too many cloaks.
Too much bubble immunity.

stop that.

Agreed 1 trillion billion times.

This MSI is a idiotic idea..
Will just see more hiding and less fighting, please restrict its use in lowsec and make it for high sec or null only.. This will only hurt lowsec as a whole both for faction warefare and piracy!!!

It's a freaking PvP area a for god sake!!!!!

Having not yet tested anything but just going of what the descriptions say, to a solo pilot this means a few things:

1. Gangs just got harder to engage, yet again, they can now effectively shield bubbles from showing up on scan and move an entire fleet out of tackle range if I'm in anything not brawly (and thus scram fit).
2. Kiting ships jut got nerfed again (see above) aligning with a target using a MMJD is a non-option, it makes my flight path predictable (ergo I'll get scrammed).
3. The Infamous Sabre/Falcon combo now has 2 new tools making them even better at killing things and even less likely to die in the process.
4. Gathering information became a lot harder and now essentially requires a nullified scout. Any nerf to the ability to gather information always hits solo'ers harder then anybody else because they more heavily rely upon it in their decision making process.
5. You're essentially telling me to just bring a link ship wherever I go, since I'd be an idiot to not dual box with a cloaky scout after these changes and since in 0.0 it is going to have to be nullified (MSI+Bubbles) I might as well just bring a link ship everywhere.
6. Carry a MMJD always everywhere you can effectively give any solo kiting ship with a long point that can't kill you fast enough the finger.

I hope you're trolling mikey I really do. Cause otherwise you really don't have a clue.

As I understand it you have little to no actual experience with small gang combat and you just picked a bunch of ships that you've heard of being good kiters without having the slightest idea of what the current meta looks like and how it works.