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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#61 - 2013-10-07 20:13:02 UTC
CCP Lion wrote:
Chirality Tisteloin wrote:
I've made a video showing the new bubble graphics.
First of all it looks very nice! GJ!

2 comments:
1) You will note a weird effect with the background. Due to the more subtle bubble effect the low-paralaxe background now appears to be in the foreground when flying inside the bubble. That is irritating.

2) The less whirly, less dynamic appearance of the bubbles nerfs the confusing effect for trapped victims considerably. I think that is a shame since the confusion effect was a nice use of graphics to implement game mechanics. With the new effect the graphics are just (nice) decorations.

Cheers, Chira.


Hi, thanks for the comments, regarding point 1, in your video I can still see alot of parallax between the blueish effects and the nebula itself. Please let me know if you're talking about something else.

When it comes to item number 2, good point but the overall idea was to have a less hectic effect.

Cheers

I saw that effect too. The stars look to be in front of the bubble. Its like the haze from the galactic plane obscures the bubble effect, which visually places the galaxy in front of the bubble.

The parallax that is there does nothing to eliminate the effect. The galaxy ends up looking like a smudge on the camera lens, something you got to look through to see the bubble.

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Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2013-10-07 20:22:23 UTC
This update is PHENOMENAL! Simply amazing. Love EVERY visual change!
Solu Terona
Alexylva Paradox
#63 - 2013-10-07 20:26:20 UTC
Nomistrav wrote:
Golem model looks bizarre, like a completely different ship.

(colors inverted but here's a pic): http://i.imgur.com/xTblssK.png


i now want a color inverted golem

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Ravcharas
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#64 - 2013-10-07 20:28:18 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
bubbles look awesome now. However its still hard to see if you are inside or outside the bubble. Would be nice to have an indicator for it or even a graphical effect. (i remember "nexus the jupiter incident" had an effect on the ship hull when you passed through the barrier.)

This a million times.
Chirality Tisteloin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#65 - 2013-10-07 20:33:28 UTC
With the tactical overlay it is not soooo difficult.

However, an indicator above the HUD, like the other ewar/scram indicators would be a handy addition. Problem is probably server traffic to query position relative to bubble each time. (Maybe this can be delegated to the client for the purpose of the indicator?)

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Allandri
Liandri Industrial
#66 - 2013-10-07 20:38:13 UTC
Would it be possible to increase the contrast in the market selection screen? Right now it goes from dark grey -> grey -> slightly lighter grey
Skanie
Kyushu Dynamics
#67 - 2013-10-07 21:20:29 UTC
Love the new Golem, include the cockpit

Just got a problem with launchers, how can a cruise missile pass throught the wing ? O_o
The Bastion Mode is quite soft, I expected a whole more for this.



Good work for the warp / command ship etc etc :)
Chirality Tisteloin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2013-10-07 22:09:04 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
The galaxy ends up looking like a smudge on the camera lens, something you got to look through to see the bubble.


That is exactly how I first experienced it. As if the camera lens was dirty.

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Quiby San
#69 - 2013-10-07 22:23:53 UTC
Dictor bubbles should be orange or something!
That would be neat ^-^

Love the new bubble effects ♥
Thank you very much!
Bubanni
Corus Aerospace
#70 - 2013-10-07 22:36:49 UTC
Can I make a suggestion of making the background nebula different for tech 2 variants? like Drake vs Nighthawk, so it would be easier to tell apart which kind you have locked.

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CCP Vertex
C C P
C C P Alliance
#71 - 2013-10-07 23:31:30 UTC
Lazei wrote:
Light and Heavy Interdictor bubbles look too similar. Currently on Tranquility, at least with my graphics settings, its very easy to see which bubble is up from the effect which is really useful. The new effect only has a small reddish glow in the HIC bubble that makes it different from light dictor bubble and that will be covered by brackets and other effects anyway. Would be nice to see which bubble is up from space rather than having to go through overview to look for Inderdiction probes..


Thanks for the feedback Lazei, we will look at this a bit closer.

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CCP Vertex
C C P
C C P Alliance
#72 - 2013-10-07 23:35:31 UTC
Ting Mei wrote:
Personnaly, the game crash every 5 mn, with a complete white screen. If i have 2 clients launched, the 2 crash at the same second.



Ting Mei, have you submitted a bug report yet?

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CCP Vertex
C C P
C C P Alliance
#73 - 2013-10-07 23:37:28 UTC
Skanie wrote:
Love the new Golem, include the cockpit

Just got a problem with launchers, how can a cruise missile pass throught the wing ? O_o
The Bastion Mode is quite soft, I expected a whole more for this.



Good work for the warp / command ship etc etc :)



We'll look into the launcher locator placement Skanie, thanks for the feedback. :)

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Flamespar
WarRavens
#74 - 2013-10-07 23:49:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Flamespar
Framerate in the captains quarters stutters now.

Also noticed that you can't access the ship viewer when in the CQ view (you need to switch to hanger view)

Also you might want to make the ship services minimize when viewing the ship tree as I find it's in the way.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#75 - 2013-10-07 23:57:07 UTC
Also noticed that the Avatar titan passes too close to the camera in the preview display
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#76 - 2013-10-08 01:15:37 UTC
OOHO NO hahah oh . oh my goodness the golem

I can hardly believe my eyes

you've gone full platypus. you never go full platypus

you know I was going to get a ticket to EVE Vegas tonight, -just- for the opportunity to get my hands on a raven model and paint it as a golem. I was on the fence about it, but now I feel not the slightest desire

plan B was offering to buy a raven model from someone who attends, to save myself the logistics of getting my body there... I don't feel like doing that either

you should've waited til after EVE Vegas to put the new golem model on Sisi--you would've trolled me 3x as hard with it.

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Perkone
Caldari State
#77 - 2013-10-08 01:41:26 UTC
If someone could get around to optimizing gate haven graphics so they don't hog processing power and raise card temperatures drastically for when Rubicon comes out, I would be extremely happy.
Noriko Mai
#78 - 2013-10-08 03:00:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Noriko Mai
I have weird glitches with the lines in the star map. They are only showing from certain angles. The lines themselves are blury and scratchy. There seems to be some coherence if labels are on or off.

Flamespar wrote:
Framerate in the captains quarters stutters now.

Same here. Although that's something with the lowest priority.

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Flamespar
WarRavens
#79 - 2013-10-08 03:23:57 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
I have weird glitches with the lines in the star map. They are only showing from certain angles. The lines themselves are blury and scratchy. There seems to be some coherence if labels are on or off.

Flamespar wrote:
Framerate in the captains quarters stutters now.

Same here. Although that's something with the lowest priority.


Dunno where you got the idea that it should be a low priority. Given that they are not adding anything to the CQ there is no excuse for it not working as before.
Wenthrial Solamar
Brand Newbros
#80 - 2013-10-08 03:51:26 UTC
Window and animation refresh / response rate is very slow, like the back-end is taking a long time to respond, feels stuck in the mud. This seems to be across both the UI and the Main render so am posing it here rather than the UI thread. Things like the warp tunnel animation not being well synced to the audio and background animation.

The reload animation is the big one, it start's about 8s in to a 10s reload cycle, like it's taking a long time to load the asset or something.

Also as others have noted, the new build is having my GPUs running hot, about 4C higher than the current TQ build for equivalent settings.
Most of the extra load is coming from the Shaders it looks like.