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[MERC] The Marmite Collective

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Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2001 - 2013-08-15 14:22:27 UTC
Sublime Rage wrote:
Merc alliances,pvp pilots,pvp corps....they are ALL about killboards =).


I seriously could care less about killboards, the only purpose they serve is to show friends also interested in EVE what I managed to do today.

You can gank random people all day, and there is very little joy or skill involved in doing such things- unless it comes from a titan bridge, and even then only if the victim or someone in his fleet convo's you afterwards and wants to explain (usually in detail) why your (corp/alliance/group) is ruining the (game/pvp/experience/immersion/lowsec/nullsec), which makes it a little bit more enjoyable.

I kill things for the fights, I enjoy taking 10-30 dudes out, stomping all over a larger fleet through superior piloting/skill rather than just waiting for a lone idiot to jump a gate/undock from a station before trying to see who gets the highest damage/final blow. It should be about the fights, losing a ship shouldn't stop you from trying to achieve this, and if a cyno goes up- you've already been weighed and measured.

Killboards, for the sake of kill counts are stupid, pointless and redundant things (if this is your metric, I'm probably better than you and probably always will be).
Comrade Answers
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2002 - 2013-08-15 14:24:25 UTC
Sublime Rage wrote:
Merc alliances,pvp pilots,pvp corps....they are ALL about killboards =) how can you say it's not about the killboard,about the kills and about the losses .When one of the self proclaimed leader of highsec pvp scene starts losing wars badly people start to wonder. And btw,corps and alliances can break under this kind of pressure,if under the heat long enough.Fail after fail after fail more and more will start to wonder why they are sticking with the outfit.
I have personally seen groups break up just like this,if marmite will do aswell we will have to wait and see ,but the truth is the other mercs in war with marmite are a very big thorn in their sides no matter how hard you and they are trying to deny it.


Sublime nobody is denying it. But it helps to be right and not assume you're right. If Marmite collapses you can all come here for your victory lap. So far it has not happened.

If they don't crack what are all of you going to say on this forum? All the pastebins in the world will not save VegasQueen if Marmite does not collapse after this raging and crying.

But you still wont answer me. If I'm a Tora fanboy, what is scrubbage like Vegas called? Booted from Marmite less than a month ago and now wailing on the forums?
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#2003 - 2013-08-15 14:25:38 UTC
Ok ladies and gentlemens, here is the video i have made that is telling the whole story of the Marmite alliance & Co from this topic and what's happening ingame Lol.

Marmite & Co

To bad i didn't find that video with a better quality. But you can read the text and see everything, that is the most important thing Big smile

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Sublime Rage
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2004 - 2013-08-15 14:26:38 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Sublime Rage wrote:
Merc alliances,pvp pilots,pvp corps....they are ALL about killboards =).


I seriously could care less about killboards, the only purpose they serve is to show friends also interested in EVE what I managed to do today.

You can gank random people all day, and there is very little joy or skill involved in doing such things- unless it comes from a titan bridge, and even then only if the victim or someone in his fleet convo's you afterwards and wants to explain (usually in detail) why your (corp/alliance/group) is ruining the (game/pvp/experience/immersion/lowsec/nullsec), which makes it a little bit more enjoyable.

I kill things for the fights, I enjoy taking 10-30 dudes out, stomping all over a larger fleet through superior piloting/skill rather than just waiting for a lone idiot to jump a gate/undock from a station before trying to see who gets the highest damage/final blow. It should be about the fights, losing a ship shouldn't stop you from trying to achieve this, and if a cyno goes up- you've already been weighed and measured.

Killboards, for the sake of kill counts are stupid, pointless and redundant things (if this is your metric, I'm probably better than you and probably always will be).


You want the good fights resulting in the good kills,the good kills is the bookmark of the good fight and the trigger for your memory of that moment.Some people like holeysheet have poor standard in what they strive to achieve on that killboard some aim higher.but in the end it's about the killboard nonetheless.I for one enjoy getting big kills in small ships,like killing a T3 cruiser with a t1 cruiser for example but in the end i like to have that record of what i did so i can share my story with people and remember the moment
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#2005 - 2013-08-15 14:28:50 UTC  |  Edited by: VegasMirage
Xolve wrote:
Sublime Rage wrote:
Merc alliances,pvp pilots,pvp corps....they are ALL about killboards =).


I seriously could care less about killboards, the only purpose they serve is to show friends also interested in EVE what I managed to do today.

You can gank random people all day, and there is very little joy or skill involved in doing such things- unless it comes from a titan bridge, and even then only if the victim or someone in his fleet convo's you afterwards and wants to explain (usually in detail) why your (corp/alliance/group) is ruining the (game/pvp/experience/immersion/lowsec/nullsec), which makes it a little bit more enjoyable.

I kill things for the fights, I enjoy taking 10-30 dudes out, stomping all over a larger fleet through superior piloting/skill rather than just waiting for a lone idiot to jump a gate/undock from a station before trying to see who gets the highest damage/final blow. It should be about the fights, losing a ship shouldn't stop you from trying to achieve this, and if a cyno goes up- you've already been weighed and measured.

Killboards, for the sake of kill counts are stupid, pointless and redundant things (if this is your metric, I'm probably better than you and probably always will be).


First time in a long time man, I think you missed the point. Sublime said, "Break under pressure..." This is not your normal Eve game play style Xolve. Most players will never experience the pure pleasure of stuffing garbage cans daily with trash like Marmite.

How many times a year do you get a chance to play "Wack-A-Mole" with some doucheturds who pop up and constantly threaten to "rain down hell on you"... and break them.

no more games... it's real this time!!!
Sublime Rage
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2006 - 2013-08-15 14:30:06 UTC
Comrade Answers wrote:


Sublime nobody is denying it. But it helps to be right and not assume you're right. If Marmite collapses you can all come here for your victory lap. So far it has not happened.

If they don't crack what are all of you going to say on this forum? All the pastebins in the world will not save VegasQueen if Marmite does not collapse after this raging and crying.

But you still wont answer me. If I'm a Tora fanboy, what is scrubbage like Vegas called? Booted from Marmite less than a month ago and now wailing on the forums?


I dont know what vegas is,i didnt really bother finding out what the reason was for this campaign against marmite but i was onboard when i heard about it for my own reasons. These forum threads are just attacks to the reputation of marmite and their morale,it's another kind of pvp if you ask me.Seems to be serving some purpose as it has made some people leave the alliance :) no?
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#2007 - 2013-08-15 14:30:59 UTC
Comrade Answers wrote:


Who cares about the killboard. Linking killboards on the forums is for the primates. This is about Vegas trying to break an alliance and failing.



Well another name for a killboard is a scoreboard. All sports use them and the team with the bigger number wins. As far as breaking an alliance? Just because you have a group full of bads left sitting on the bench waiting for SOMEONE to tell them where they can go to hit F1 doesn't mean you aren't already broken. Which you are.

Can I get that dec or no?
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#2008 - 2013-08-15 14:34:58 UTC  |  Edited by: VegasMirage
Comrade Answers wrote:
Sublime Rage wrote:
Merc alliances,pvp pilots,pvp corps....they are ALL about killboards =) how can you say it's not about the killboard,about the kills and about the losses .When one of the self proclaimed leader of highsec pvp scene starts losing wars badly people start to wonder. And btw,corps and alliances can break under this kind of pressure,if under the heat long enough.Fail after fail after fail more and more will start to wonder why they are sticking with the outfit.
I have personally seen groups break up just like this,if marmite will do aswell we will have to wait and see ,but the truth is the other mercs in war with marmite are a very big thorn in their sides no matter how hard you and they are trying to deny it.


I want this to happen on my time frame... today. By the way, I'm on crack and will post more drivel... nothing new just drivel


fixed that for you forum alt fanboi

only 3 weeks and 50 pages of tears, has to be some sort of record

no more games... it's real this time!!!
Comrade Answers
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2009 - 2013-08-15 14:40:16 UTC
VegasMirage wrote:
Xolve wrote:
Sublime Rage wrote:
Merc alliances,pvp pilots,pvp corps....they are ALL about killboards =).


I seriously could care less about killboards, the only purpose they serve is to show friends also interested in EVE what I managed to do today.

You can gank random people all day, and there is very little joy or skill involved in doing such things- unless it comes from a titan bridge, and even then only if the victim or someone in his fleet convo's you afterwards and wants to explain (usually in detail) why your (corp/alliance/group) is ruining the (game/pvp/experience/immersion/lowsec/nullsec), which makes it a little bit more enjoyable.

I kill things for the fights, I enjoy taking 10-30 dudes out, stomping all over a larger fleet through superior piloting/skill rather than just waiting for a lone idiot to jump a gate/undock from a station before trying to see who gets the highest damage/final blow. It should be about the fights, losing a ship shouldn't stop you from trying to achieve this, and if a cyno goes up- you've already been weighed and measured.

Killboards, for the sake of kill counts are stupid, pointless and redundant things (if this is your metric, I'm probably better than you and probably always will be).


First time in a long time man, I think you missed the point. Sublime said, "Break under pressure..." This is not your normal Eve game play style Xolve. Most players will never experience the pure pleasure of stuffing garbage cans daily with trash like Marmite.

How many times a year do you get a chance to play "Wack-A-Mole" with some doucheturds who pop up and constantly threaten to "rain down hell on you"... and break them.


Vegas you were a marmite less than a month ago. How do you not choke on the irony lol? Why are you so mad anyway? Did Tora stick it in and break it off?

Sublime, as far as I know people leaving your alliance is not always a bad thing. VegasQueen is kind of a prime example. Not all departures are missed.
Sublime Rage
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2010 - 2013-08-15 14:42:41 UTC
If enough people start leaving snowball effects comes into play =) we will see how strong their will is ,comes down to that
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#2011 - 2013-08-15 14:43:49 UTC
Comrade Answers wrote:
VegasMirage wrote:
Xolve wrote:
Sublime Rage wrote:
Merc alliances,pvp pilots,pvp corps....they are ALL about killboards =).


I seriously could care less about killboards, the only purpose they serve is to show friends also interested in EVE what I managed to do today.

You can gank random people all day, and there is very little joy or skill involved in doing such things- unless it comes from a titan bridge, and even then only if the victim or someone in his fleet convo's you afterwards and wants to explain (usually in detail) why your (corp/alliance/group) is ruining the (game/pvp/experience/immersion/lowsec/nullsec), which makes it a little bit more enjoyable.

I kill things for the fights, I enjoy taking 10-30 dudes out, stomping all over a larger fleet through superior piloting/skill rather than just waiting for a lone idiot to jump a gate/undock from a station before trying to see who gets the highest damage/final blow. It should be about the fights, losing a ship shouldn't stop you from trying to achieve this, and if a cyno goes up- you've already been weighed and measured.

Killboards, for the sake of kill counts are stupid, pointless and redundant things (if this is your metric, I'm probably better than you and probably always will be).


First time in a long time man, I think you missed the point. Sublime said, "Break under pressure..." This is not your normal Eve game play style Xolve. Most players will never experience the pure pleasure of stuffing garbage cans daily with trash like Marmite.

How many times a year do you get a chance to play "Wack-A-Mole" with some doucheturds who pop up and constantly threaten to "rain down hell on you"... and break them.


Vegas you were a marmite less than a month ago. How do you not choke on the irony lol? Why are you so mad anyway? Did Tora stick it in and break it off?

Sublime, as far as I know people leaving your alliance is not always a bad thing. VegasQueen is kind of a prime example. Not all departures are missed.


my bucket overfloweth with Marmite tears, now I fill a new bucket with Marmite forum alt tears

this can't get any better

no more games... it's real this time!!!
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2012 - 2013-08-15 14:48:21 UTC
VegasMirage wrote:

First time in a long time man, I think you missed the point. Sublime said, "Break under pressure..." This is not your normal Eve game play style Xolve. Most players will never experience the pure pleasure of stuffing garbage cans daily with trash like Marmite.


Didn't make it past the first sentence, which I quoted! only semi out of context; It's an attitude I literally cannot stand.

The last 30-40 I've killed solo have all given me some sort of 'my killboard stats' and when that failed they all suddenly transformed into '80k/annual ferrari drivers with kickboxing girlfriends'... excuse my bittervet.
Comrade Answers
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2013 - 2013-08-15 14:49:14 UTC
VegasMirage wrote:
Comrade Answers wrote:
VegasMirage wrote:
Xolve wrote:
Sublime Rage wrote:
Merc alliances,pvp pilots,pvp corps....they are ALL about killboards =).


I seriously could care less about killboards, the only purpose they serve is to show friends also interested in EVE what I managed to do today.

You can gank random people all day, and there is very little joy or skill involved in doing such things- unless it comes from a titan bridge, and even then only if the victim or someone in his fleet convo's you afterwards and wants to explain (usually in detail) why your (corp/alliance/group) is ruining the (game/pvp/experience/immersion/lowsec/nullsec), which makes it a little bit more enjoyable.

I kill things for the fights, I enjoy taking 10-30 dudes out, stomping all over a larger fleet through superior piloting/skill rather than just waiting for a lone idiot to jump a gate/undock from a station before trying to see who gets the highest damage/final blow. It should be about the fights, losing a ship shouldn't stop you from trying to achieve this, and if a cyno goes up- you've already been weighed and measured.

Killboards, for the sake of kill counts are stupid, pointless and redundant things (if this is your metric, I'm probably better than you and probably always will be).


First time in a long time man, I think you missed the point. Sublime said, "Break under pressure..." This is not your normal Eve game play style Xolve. Most players will never experience the pure pleasure of stuffing garbage cans daily with trash like Marmite.

How many times a year do you get a chance to play "Wack-A-Mole" with some doucheturds who pop up and constantly threaten to "rain down hell on you"... and break them.


Vegas you were a marmite less than a month ago. How do you not choke on the irony lol? Why are you so mad anyway? Did Tora stick it in and break it off?

Sublime, as far as I know people leaving your alliance is not always a bad thing. VegasQueen is kind of a prime example. Not all departures are missed.


my bucket overfloweth with Marmite tears, now I fill a new bucket with Marmite forum alt tears

this can't get any better


I think all your screens are slathered with denial as to how fail you are and how ridiculous your history makes you look on the forums.

Let's be honest, you don't have a bucket. If anything I picture you with a colander that you wear on your head.
Sublime Rage
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2014 - 2013-08-15 14:54:28 UTC
Xolve wrote:
VegasMirage wrote:

First time in a long time man, I think you missed the point. Sublime said, "Break under pressure..." This is not your normal Eve game play style Xolve. Most players will never experience the pure pleasure of stuffing garbage cans daily with trash like Marmite.


Didn't make it past the first sentence, which I quoted! only semi out of context; It's an attitude I literally cannot stand.

The last 30-40 I've killed solo have all given me some sort of 'my killboard stats' and when that failed they all suddenly transformed into '80k/annual ferrari drivers with kickboxing girlfriends'... excuse my bittervet.


You do see my point tho about the killboard right?altho i agree with some of the things you're saying it's probably more a problem with the killboard systems themselves than anything else,because they dont emphasize in quality of the kills and they dont tell the whole story,not by a long shot.You can still catch some ideas about the quality of the kills just not very accurately

Hopefuly we will have even better killreports in the future so we wont have to listen to HoleySheet type of persons bragging about their thousands of kills per month that are composed mostly of pods and shuttles =)
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#2015 - 2013-08-15 14:54:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
@Xolve : I agree with most of what you said here, but killboards for mercs are somewhat important. Not the number of kills, but the eff. and type of kills are. As long as it is above 70-80%, most clients will keep hiring you. Returning clients don't care, as they already know what you will do for them. And if you lose ships, that's not a bad thing too, as it shows you at least tried.

We have been at war with the merc groups for 3-4 weeks now. Marmites didn't die, we adapted. Just look at the number of kills on those wars when they started and the last 1-2 weeks. Why do you think some mercs are complaining ? They decced us, got some nice kills, we adapted, way less kills ==> bored mercs on forums.

@Vegas : No worries mate..... you really are very important in EVE....Blink

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#2016 - 2013-08-15 14:57:28 UTC  |  Edited by: VegasMirage
Xolve wrote:
VegasMirage wrote:

First time in a long time man, I think you missed the point. Sublime said, "Break under pressure..." This is not your normal Eve game play style Xolve. Most players will never experience the pure pleasure of stuffing garbage cans daily with trash like Marmite.


Didn't make it past the first sentence, which I quoted! only semi out of context; It's an attitude I literally cannot stand.

The last 30-40 I've killed solo have all given me some sort of 'my killboard stats' and when that failed they all suddenly transformed into '80k/annual ferrari drivers with kickboxing girlfriends'... excuse my bittervet.


I lol'd

Agreed. Killboards can shed light on the "Bleeding nerds of their savings" stat, which as you know is why we play.

This OP has delivered the content we need to keep us all subb'd. The funny thing is Marmite don't understand this basic point. Still yelping and dancing for us like clowns.

@Tora Bushido

No, you're relevant and important to Eve. The only thing you prove with what you say is there are dumber, worse players in Eve who part with their money easier than you. Wow, that image.

no more games... it's real this time!!!
Sublime Rage
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2017 - 2013-08-15 14:59:42 UTC
Drama is fun.drama is content =) this is what eve is all about
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#2018 - 2013-08-15 15:01:57 UTC
Sublime Rage wrote:
Drama is fun.drama is content =) this is what eve is all about

Agreed, look how less fun EVE would be if there wasn't an alliance as TEST or Goons.....

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2019 - 2013-08-15 15:39:26 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
@Xolve : I agree with most of what you said here, but killboards for mercs are somewhat important. Not the number of kills, but the eff. and type of kills are. As long as it is above 70-80%, most clients will keep hiring you. Returning clients don't care, as they already know what you will do for them. And if you lose ships, that's not a bad thing too, as it shows you at least tried.


Targeted efficiency in a campaign vs. overall efficiency are two completely seperate things.

Overall, efficiency is a completely worthless metric, especially since the combat power of a ship isn't necessarily defined by the cost of that ship. Frigates can kill battlecruisers/battleships etc.
Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
#2020 - 2013-08-15 15:42:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Zeus Maximo
Just like the next guy I enjoy when someone fails but I also like farming kills from people that refuse to change how they play. I do appreciate the fact that Tora doesn't want to stop and I commend him for that. Hell I used to have some really good conversations with him but as we both know, after a few badly worded emails, we stopped talking. I still do wish him well as he brings content to the game. If we didnt have marmite to hunt then who would we kill? As long as he keeps recruiting that gives us more people to hunt.

Let Tora recruit but remember, if his alliance goes away then we will have to find someone else.

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