EVE General Discussion

I seriously want to know how many people truly believe that EVE is a game that should focus on playing dress-up in a station.

It has never been that, it will never be that. I don't see an avatar taking sov. I don't see an avatar running a mission. I don't see an avatar shooting at a spaceship. That has never been the focus of eveonline, and it can never be allowed to become the focus.

Somehow this game has survived for 8 years with only spaceships, I fail to see how equal focus should be payed to eye candy.

I have been keeping away from eve for the best part of the year and all the news that came with it. It's sad to see the way it is going right now after catching up with all the controversies in the last six months (even a riot? ). Paying stupid amounts of real life money for a monocle is just stupid and after all it's virtual which saddens me more due to the fact that people buy these gimmicks because it looks cool.

But i also think that the players who have been around for maybe 4-5 years or more (including myself) are struggling to adapt to how the marketing strategy of MMO's are run these days. You notice that most MMO's that come out are free to play with tokens etc etc, even WoW is doing it..... this is the future of eve?

I hope not but it could well be and we are being ignored as this process is being slowly introduced into a game that, has built it's own culture and character through the player base. As much we hate a certain person for being on the CSM they need our support right now and they better be right with what they are doing or it will fall into a further spiral. And if they do get it wrong.......

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Except that a major part of every expansion has been fixes for the previous expansions bugs that they never patched. Now I'm not sure if its because they're lazy or incompetent, but at the moment it seems that EVE dev is severly under resourced.



Its a bit hard to not realise the CSM vote is happening. CCP plug it on login, and a lot of people say to go out and vote, the people who don't vote are most likely too lazy / don't care about it.

I'm not demanding EVE stay the same.


I'm asking for emphasis to be put on the root of the game, what attracted all of us players to EVE. We can for SPACE combat, and a SPACE game. I see far too many people/companies/games alienate their core playerbase/voterbase/whathaveyou by moving away from the principles that made them popular in the first place.

It's like Blizzard going: Ok, we have this super-cool new feature that allows you to blast a rocket off into space and look at Azeroth from the sky. We're now going to make this the focus of our development for an entire expansion cycle, **** it up, release no new raids, battlegrounds, instances, or levels, and literally only have eye candy. SEE GUYS! SEE! WE INNOVATED AND DID SOMETHING NEW! THAT'S GOOD RIGHT! Too bad your entire playerbase just quit because there's been no new relevant content for 2 years.

Me too, I pay attention to them because they only show up once, theres probably a better way of doing it, just no ones thought of it yet. The part I really don't like about the CSM vote is when theres the follow the leader type of canditates that Alliances put up, but thats just me.

P.S - No, I didn't vote for Whitetree when I was in TEST, Seleene ftw.

The blizzard analogy was just that: an analogy. Don't read too far into it.



This is nothing at all more than a wow player being able to orbit around azeroth from space. We can sit in a station and talk to people. BUT WAIT! We can't even do that yet! That will take another year to roll out! We can sit in a station by ourselves! FUCKYEA.

Focus on the **** you know how to do CCP. Blizz wouldn't develop a sandbox MMO. You won't develop a theme park MMO.

You develop spaceships. You have made a really ******* good spaceship game. Don't turn it into something it isn't.

Most are demanding the opposite, that some actual work gets done on changing, expanding, and refining Eve. I have no problems developing WiS, but not if it's just going to be a MT shopping mall, which is pretty much where I see this going. If that's where it goes I'd rather not have it at all.

That said, FiS is EvE, always has been, always will be, and that's where the vast majority of the attention needs to be placed.

Whether you like Incarna or not is not the issue here. They've re-released sleepers and created one room in the time it took them to release all of wormhole space. This isn't just neglect for flying in space, this is neglect for the capabilities that Incarna offers.

The problem as I see it...CCP bit of more than they can chew. They are trying to do three things at once. Who cares if they have separate teams for each project. EVE should be their number one project no matter what else they may have on the table. They promised us CQ's and WiS by August of this year. Well it is now Sept and now we're told that the rest of the CQ's will get released sometime this Winter™ with the rest following soon™ after. How are we suppose to believe them when they haven't been truthful with us regarding Incarna.

Also if all Incarna is going to be is a jump board for more MT - then I hope they never finish it and I hope EVE, WoD and Dust 514 crush and burn horribly. Incarna should not be about MT...it should be about expanding the potential game play of an all ready great MMO by giving us alternate alternatives to flying spaceships 24/7.

EVE should have and needs the human factor. What EVE does not need is to be neglected and turned into nothing more than a badly implemented space sim with an MT store attached to it.

What do I want out of Incarna? Establishments, bars, minigames (poker), maybe a place where listeners of EVE Radio can actually meet up in person.

Although the first iteration is only a room with a clothing store, you do realize that there is more coming, right? I see people make this statement, "Oh well, Incarna is a just a room bla bla bla!"

It's part 1 of an "ongoing" expansion.

A little lacking on the feature side? Yes, absolutely. Totally cool anyway? Yes!

Instead of staring at brown covered in brown with a brown ship in the middle, I can sit down on my couch and search the market, make buy orders or view my planetary stuff. Then again, I've always had a bit of an RP side.