EVE General Discussion

of course it was, my strong sense of sarcasm would have been obvious if you saw the vein in my forehead start to throb after reading the dev's response.

with luck most of the known exploits will be fixed. and so will be stealth bombers & alts online.

Asif the CSM know what FW needs.

I see a lot of talking about the spawn mechanics and stuff so let me just make this point.

Stuff like Pirate Ships in plexes, and plex spawning, among other things are more like bug fixes than anything else. They are important and should be fixed but they will take a minimal amount of coding and time as far as my limited knowledge goes. They SHOULD(Read probably won't) be fixed in time for the Winter patch.

What it sounds to me is that the Devs are working on something significantly bigger than all of that. Something that will shake things up significantly. I am HOPING for a change in the Sov/Occupancy Mechanic . I am NOT hoping for the removal of High Sec navy NPCs. You know what that'll lead to? Jita ganking, 24/7 Yes maybe it'll get rid of some of the farming alts and missioners, but it'll cripple the Logistics of casual and noob players and widen the Engagement area to all of EVE. Which means that instead of just the low-sec area we have become accustomed to we have to chase each other across all of EVE. I just don't see that being a good move to bring more people to FW.

And honestly? What do farming alts DO to us? Yes their annoying when you see them and they don't PvP . They can screw up our killboards when Loren Gallen and his various counterparts gank some pimped out missioning ship. And for those of us who do missions, they reduce the value of our items but whats with all the raging? WE know who we can count on and who we can't. Who we fight and who we don't. So I don't really see the point of extreme rage over the fact that the Entire militia isn't in our fleet and the entire opposing militia is in the others. Its annoying, but not game breaking.

And while were at it, are we nominating FW positions for the CSM? Honestly if theres anybody I've seen forum wise that devotes enough time to FW topics that deserves that post its gotta be Hans. He should crash the summit anyway. Rip off his shirt and have FW painted on his chest. Run through the meeting screaming "FIX FACTION WARFARE!!"...i just had an AWESOME idea for a new poll :P.

Shhhhhh!!! Don't spoil anything.....

Oi! CCP! Listen to the boss. A certain CCP CEO mentioned something about FW needing fixing or something recently

FW has a decent fan base, nowhere near as big as it used to be because of the bugs, problems and issues that finallly got people fed up. I'm not going to list everything that needs fixing* as there are plenty of threads on what the issues are. I know several people who would come back if you fixed FW (then again and I'm sure there are just as many who would come back if you fixed X, Y or Z too)

Everyone in Eve likes different things. I've done the high-sec carebear, NPC null-sec, sov holding null-sec etc and found FW to be the most fun for ME. I personally find 0.0 PvP poor in comparison especially compared to FW at it's peak in 2009.

So come on, give FW the loving it needs. You'll not make everyone happy, but a decent number of your customers!

And please, please, please DO NOT remove the NPC Navy from high-sec. The low-sec war zones should be the area for FW. All the fighting in one place. Spreading it out and having docking games on Dodixie, Jita, Amarr and Rens will just kill off FW.


*OK maybe I will - Standings hit when remote repping GCC/-5 militia mates, plex spawning mechanic, system capture meaning nothing, mission LP more rewarding than PvP LP, FW as an ISK sink, storyline gone quiet (Tibus Heth et al) and so on and so on and so on (check the previous post for all the thread linkies)

Hey everyone -

I've updated the Faction Warfare: Moving Forward thread, and made an up-to-date list of all the commonly agreed upon issues both major and minor regarding Faction Warfare. I will continue to update this as people remind me of anything I've missed, and I'll also update the list of linked resources regarding past discussion of FW and how to best improve it.

The moving forward thread can continue to be the central place to post your feedback and discussion on the subject, keeping it consolidated makes it a lot easier on CCP and the CSM alike.

Let me know if there's anything else I should add, I'm keeping the list at the top as being a list of issues, not hypothetical solutions, since we agree on the problems far more than we agree upon the answers, and the CSM members I've been speaking with reiterated that CCP much prefers a condensed, concrete issue list than a bunch of random player ideas for fixes. So that's what I'm trying to set up for them.

Evemail me if you have anything you want added to those sticky lists, I'll keep it up to date as we head closer to the CSM summit the first week of December.

Thanks everyone!

nullsec=carebear version of highsec.

HOLY MACKINAW!!! I can't believe it. I'm absolutely thrilled.

It's only a first step, but a huge leap for those of us involved in Faction Warfare. Hats off to Team Pink Zombie Kittens, our new heroes.

Well, to be fair, Pandemic Legion was there in Amamake first, before FW even existed. Hard to blame them for returning to their ancestral hunting grounds for a while.

Lets see how this pans out with the supercap nerf and the new BC's - we'll see how willing they are to drop them with the same frequency. Besides, Pandemic Legion are fun to engage and kill when they're not all in Nyx's.