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Tonight's fleet fight in Z9PP-H

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CCP Falcon
#1 - 2013-07-05 00:36:00 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Falcon
Evening capsuleers,

We’d like to ask that you keep discussions and questions relating to tonight’s fleet fight in Z9PP-H to this thread so as to keep CCP responses centralized, and to make this the go to place for questions and answers.

We’d first like to explain the situation, and what exactly has happened so far.

Owing to the heavy load in Z9PP-H, caused by a fleet flight involving 2200+ pilots deeply embroiled in the Fountain War, the decision was made to remap all other systems away from the node on which Z9PP-H was located in order to improve responsiveness and playability. We were later than we wanted to be to try to reinforce the node (obviously) since it was a more organic-type battle without a fleet fight notification. Once we fully assessed the situation and what was at play, we figured it was time to go for it and the remap in preparation of what was set to be "Asakai 2.0".

This was put into play at 22:14 UTC, however due to an error in communication, all systems including Z9PP-H itself were moved from the node, which caused everyone who was in the system and was involved in the ongoing fleet fight to be disconnected from Tranquility.

The system of Z9PP-H was brought back online and made accessible as fast as possible, however we realize that the mass disconnect of everyone involved in the fight means that ships are potentially saved by their pilots not logging back in once they have been disconnected, or are lost due to other unforeseen consequences of the disconnect.

All pilots involved have our sincerest apologies for this error, and we are currently looking to review our policy of action in these types of situation to ensure that this is not repeated.

Many of us here at CCP were watching various player streams of the battle as it unfolded and cannot apologize enough for such a mistake, or for disrupting what was setting out to be an unbelievably epic fleet fight

If you have any questions or comments, please keep them to this thread as a centralized point of contact, and we’ll see about answering them.

UPDATE - 11/07/2013 - 13:45 - Reply regarding questions asked in this thread.

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

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Mor Erata
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-07-05 00:42:02 UTC
Goons are cute when they are upset
Johan March
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-07-05 00:42:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Johan March
First?

Nope, beaten by a dose of the smug.

I'll take second.

And I forgive you CCP. At least my wife does. Big smile
Ralmar Kimnot
Okorer
#4 - 2013-07-05 00:42:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralmar Kimnot
As has already been said, Mad Ani’s Twitch stream had over 5000 people watching including a number of CCP staff. The popularity of the steam got it onto the front page of Twitch and there were lots of people saying they would re-sub or sign up because they were really impressed by the scale of the fight.

I suspect it was the attention this was getting out of game that prompted CCP to try to improve performance. They should have just left it alone and made more effort to re-enforce nodes as these fights start to escalate in the future.

At the time the node went down, the Test Rohk fleets were dying like flies and server performance was picking up. With the TEST battleships out of the way all those carrier and dreads would have been next. CFC fleets were being constantly re-enforced so make no mistake, those caps were dead.

In my view CCP meddled with things to improve the spectacle for the twitch viewers and as a result prevented a truly great battle from playing out. It’s now going down in Eve history for the wrong reasons. Such a shame :-(

Just my opnion of course.
Aprudena Gist
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-07-05 00:42:27 UTC
you guys are **** at your jobs hope this helps.
The Djentleman Paulson
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#6 - 2013-07-05 00:42:31 UTC
LOL THX CCP
Gerald Fnord
Backdoor Anomaly Exploration Corps
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#7 - 2013-07-05 00:42:36 UTC
:popcorn:
Prelate Hucel-Ge
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-07-05 00:42:49 UTC
Thanks for saving our 100+ carriers o7o7o7o7
Scooter McCabe
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2013-07-05 00:42:55 UTC
Did I hear free PLEX for everyone?
Zane Lowe
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-07-05 00:42:55 UTC
The CFC tears are amazing
Powers Sa
#11 - 2013-07-05 00:42:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Powers Sa
What do you guys plan on doing about Aggression/logoff timers on reboot moving forward? I know there are technical limitations, but in a perfect world, what would you like to see happen to combat this error and the resulting cowardice/strategic asset save.

Specifically:
CCP Phantom wrote:

The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps.

Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#12 - 2013-07-05 00:43:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
2200 - wow. Just wow.



Is that a new record?

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Aprudena Gist
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-07-05 00:43:21 UTC
give us back our 100 carrier kills
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#14 - 2013-07-05 00:43:26 UTC
Un-docking in eve is over rated.

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Sabrina Scatterbrain
United Souls Research And Development
#15 - 2013-07-05 00:43:43 UTC
CCP TEST: Before I press ENTER please confirm I have everything correct.

CCP PL: Looks good.

CCP NULLI: I don't see any problems here.

CCP TRIBE: Let me see, yes, that will do.

CCP PIZZA: I wanna see, can I see?

CCP 401K: Push the friggin button already!
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-07-05 00:43:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Il Feytid
If CFC had the same amount of participation in the actual game as they do in this thread; they would have won the Fountain war by now. Blink
Bolow Santosi
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-07-05 00:43:45 UTC
Xystance
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-07-05 00:43:47 UTC
The number of times TEST has complained on the forums about IT alliance (lol Delve TCU onling during downtime incident) is enormous.

We aren't benefited by :ccp: mistakes often.

Deal with it, it's happened in your favor too.

#grrrGOON

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Ganon Kogamari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-07-05 00:43:59 UTC
Live and learn.
Delta Jax
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-07-05 00:44:11 UTC
Schit happens, downtime happens, don't let all the haters get you down CCP.

No one needs to be fired over this, it's an opportunity to learn and improve processes, if it wasn't this engineer, it would have been someone else down the road.

Twitter :  @DeltaJax
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