EVE General Discussion

Agreed. Focusing back on the bay shows the ship blinking into existence, and the low-poly hangar interior.

An easy transition would be to follow the ship flying toward the station traffic, a fade transition of some sort, and then showing the ship flying out of the station -- from behind the ship, showing what's forward.

Depending on length of transition, merging with station traffic...

Well, the new jump gate animations actually allowed some streamlining that actually reduce load. Hopefully the same could be done with this.

For now I don't mind that the animation is only as long as necessary to cover the transition. It's still immersion-shattering to have your ship go from a huge dock deep in a station to outside the station in a few seconds, but the alternative, verisimilitude, would be a huge drag, because the game automatically puts you either deep in a station dock, or in your clothes in your CQ.

If CCP wants to make the process both cool and flexible, they should flesh out stations. Imagine docking, and winding up in a gigantic hangar with a lot of other ships. This is the outer dock: Very fast indeed, but with lighter services (basically, reps and cap as if by a logistics ship) at fees that are set by the owning corp (with variables for standing, etc.), and there's nowhere to hide. Assuming that stations are headed the way of outposts, the outer dock would be destructible; once destroyed, piloted ships would be dropped into space after taking damage, and unpiloted ships would be subject to the whims of the loot fairy. You could get out of your pod, but the process would be slow and you'd be dropped into a public area, so still, nowhere to hide. You could walk to the elevators and take one up to your CQ/corp offices.

Now, imagine a standard dock: A corp-settable docking fee. Better repair services (the fees for which, again, go to the owning corp), harder to destroy, much faster egress into and out of your pod because you're docked right about where the captains' quarters are, and you land in your CQ; but it takes longer to get in and longer to get out.

Last, storage: The cheapest option by far. Excellent services. You can choose the option of docking in the public outer dock and having your ship towed to storage, or docking in the standard dock and having it towed to storage (faster). Stored ships would be as safe as the game allows, at the cost of taking a long time to pull out of storage, re-crew, and launch, but at least a simple message would allow the process to begin remotely, from essentially anywhere--for a fee, of course.

This sort of tiered system would not only allow for a number of different station customization options, new PVP options and the possibility of player corps profiting from a high-traffic station, it would also introduce terrain to the game, in the form of time. There would be advantages and disadvantages to each option. It would also introduce verisimilitude, which is never a bad thing, but it would do so in the context of deepening game play.

Sure, the current system is nice. It's also shallow and silly, and it doesn't hold up well given the incredible depth of complexity of the rest of the game, and the faithfulness of the rendering otherwise. It would be also nice to be able to teleport to Jita, right? That doesn't mean it's better for the game.

I second this idea.

There should be two types of undocking animations. One for WiS and the other when you're in 'ship spinning' mode .How i think it should be:


WiS mode:

When you hit the undock it should look borrow some ideas off Mechwarrior Online Power up sequence showing here:Mech Power up. The idea is while you're sitting in your pod the avatar is linking up to whatever devices CCP wants through in there and at the same time AURA is speaking to you current system etc etc. The example from MWO only takes 10 seconds.

Ship Spin mode:

We can see the ship has been 'hard docked' into the station via clamps linked to the bottom of the ship so it looks like it is 'resting' on some type of plant form. We hit the undock button and lights go off, clamps starts to throw off some smoke animations while unclamping itself off the ship, engines start to power up and finally the ship starts to move slowly to the entrance. It fades from there and loads to the outside. It should only take 10 seconds as well.

Make it absolutely stunning and make it optional. Done.

Providing it takes the same amount of time as the prgress bar now, or a rule is addded saying it taeks 3 seconds ect for everyone to undock then anything that makes that process more immersive is great.

I would suggest that the Station doughnut your ship is spinning on retracts its arm or the arm is retracted from it and it lowers itself down off screen while lights flash on all sides in a downward pattern. Nice and quick, dosent have to show ship leaving station but does give some indication its gonig somewhere and removes loading bar.

my two cents

I wouldnt mind if it took larger ships longer to undock.
I think its something everyone would learn to live with and would be prepared for eventually.

Ofcource alot of people would call *outrage* at first, but CCP could have done it that way from the start and nobody would have complained if its all they ever knew.

Could be done in multiple ways:

- Fast and simple, by seeing your ship on some launch pad, then watch it get launched into space while you fly through a short/long tunnel. (for as long as you would normally get a loading bar.)
(example: http://youtu.be/B2L-D6_mvEs?t=1m )

- Slow, by seeing the intricate details of grappling hooks disengaging, watching your ship hover for a bit, then watch the thrusters engage as blast doors open and you fly out of the station. Obviously this would take a couple seconds.
(example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6EHt4vt_IQ )


Docking sequence... I think a simple and fast animation of the ship flying in and stopping at where you normally spin your ship, would suffice.
But an intricate and detailed clip of the ship flying in a-la Mass Effect (example vid: http://youtu.be/GPIQUKJGGoY?t=22s ) would be awesome as well :P

I really don't mind this with the provisos that the animations used do not adversely affect docking / undocking times and that they are optional features.