EVE General Discussion

Ranger 1, that is so true.

I've seen some of your ideas and they are excellent. I've also posted a couple scenarios myself and have seen other great ideas presented as well.

Obviously Myfanwy Heimdal along with all of the other nay saying flamers against WiS and Incarna have no imagination. They lack the mental ability to envision any of the multiple possibility's that could arise from this.

Ah, personal insults.

No imagination, you say? Clearly we've never met because you haven't a clue about what I can, do and have imagined and all of the possibilities that are available.

The problem is that we've got thousands of miles of corridor to fill in each station. The game play, out in space, more or less works. We are talking about moving the gameplay from outside to inside. So, we have thousands of miles of corridors and rooms and CCP have to encourage the whole playerbase that there's something better for them to do inside the stations.

It's no use saying that I haven't any imagination but CCP have the enormous task of changing the game's gameplay so that both FiS and WiS both work and, additionally, make WiS feel more than a half-baked bolt-on.

So, lay off the insults and kindly come up with some good and constructive comments and suggestions on what could be implemented that doesn't effect FiS and would encourage me to leave the pod. And, believe me, leave the pod I will if there is a point, a purpose and an incentive to do so.

Everyone liked the idea of WiS back in the 2008 Fanfest, full of promises and good features.

We as a community aren't opposed to the development of Incarna but how you tried to implement it. The NeX store and its magically appearing items not created by players was a fail, the forcing players to use Incarna was a fail, the inmersion breaking useless environments was a fail, and so it continues.

Do it how such an amazing expansion it deserves, and don't screw up with FiS along the road, and everyone will be happy.

Come on, you guys have the power.

Want to bet? Played a game with walking in stations from the get go (inablity to turn it off annoyed the crap out of me). it was fun for the first wee while but bleeding annoying after that.

Nex store? as longs its stuff that give no in game advantage I don't care one way or another (if someones wants to splurge ISK/whatever playing dressup more power to em).

Why not just open a browser window and log onto a proper poker site? Why have CCP divert resources from WiS/FiS to provide something which is already provided for elsewhere?

Okay... well, why don't you go play "other" space games and not EVE?
I want to sink my isk into gambling in the game, risking what I have in the game and not my cash in real world.
Play pokers in free poker games? And the "points" and "free chips" u gain are used for.... what?

Have you played poker before? Risking something in poker and playing with free-chip is 2 "different" game, just for your information.

Actually, this thread is to show positive support. You insult this thread by posting negative flame replies instead of trying to have a positive outlook. The fact that you won't even try to think of a scenario yourself and keep saying there's 1000's of miles of corridor's to fill tells me you lack imagination. The stations only need to have a few levels with maybe up to a dozen rooms each, max.

Top level could be 1 large room, the Promenade Deck, with large viewing ports to watch the ships outside the station. Can check if you're being station camped or maybe do side bets watching the pvp action.
2nd level could have Conference Rooms for Corporate meetings, War Room with access to 3D maps, a Central Command Center, Medical Bay.
3rd level would have Market, Shops, Bars, Casino, Security Office complete with holding cells (Brig), etc.
Bottom level would have storage compartments, small rooms for black market deals, etc.

FYI - I've watched the CCP Videos with Dev's giving progress updates and demonstrations about Incarna and Dust. They even showed a ship leaving a station in space, traveling to a planet and doing atmospheric flight. Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I got from watching all those video demonstrations and interviews:

Incarna is a visionary step to turn a PC mmo spaceship simulation into a real time based sci-fi virtual reality.
Dust is a visionary step to turn a Console mmo FPS simulation into a real time based sci-fi virtual reality.
Joining these two totally different control applications together to work simultaneously would transform Eve Online into the ultimate real time based sci-fi virtual reality universe.

If CCP can accomplish this and make it work, it will usher in a whole new era and revolutionize the gaming world as we know it. As for new game play content, come on, it can't be that tough to think of some.

Hell, here's a couple of scenarios.

While in your ship or in station, your personal communicator (Aura?) activates an alarm informing you an invasion force has attacked and captured a PI facility on one of your planets. You contact the Dust Commander and inform him to meet you in the War Room to plan a counter attack and regain control. In the War Room are 3-D visual maps of the Planet, the PI facility's and surrounding areas. You both examine the maps, verify the enemy position and mark the drop zones for supplies. After forming a plan of attack, you load the supplies into your ship while the Dust Commander rejoins his team who are waiting at the 1st drop zone on the planet.

You travel to the planet with the supplies loaded in your ship, enter into atmospheric flight and drop the supplies at the 1st drop zone. While en-route back to the station, you encounter a small blockade of enemy player ships. You make a call to your Corporation and are quickly joined by a couple of Fleet mates. Small gang PvP combat starts happening in space while the FPS ground forces engage each other.

As the battle in space continues, you receive a call from the Dust Commander requesting supplies to be dropped at the 2nd drop zone. You and your Fleet mates have almost killed all enemy player ships when more enemy player ships warp in and you find yourself locked and tackled. Dust Commander informs you his team is boxed in and needs those supplies now.

or

You log into the game with the sound of alarms going off in your Captains Quarters. The main viewscreen informs you that the station is under Security Lockdown (no docking or undocking) due to an Invasion force (Sansha?). You and other players trapped inside the station must Hack into various Security lockers for weapons and munitions. Players then go deck by deck, seeking out and killing all invaders encountered, Salvaging more weapons and munitions, body armor, etc..

Players must make their way to the Central Command Center to deactivate the Security Lockdown allowing players access to the docking bay. Question is: What will you do? Do you attempt this solo? Create a gang with other players for tactical combat and medical support? Stay inside your Captains Quarters and hope somebody else deactivates the Security Lockdown?

There are many different game play possibility's that could happen. I for one hope and pray that CCP is successful in making their dream a reality for us to enjoy. I wanna tell my friends - Hey, Eve is Real.

Ahhh, sorry if my saying didn't give you full undestanding of my point. ^q^
If thats how you put it. Then here is what I would say.
"Fine, then stop living in that corner of life and only play pokers on free-bet games on browser. Oh, and don't mind about bragging your 'personal' situations on enjoying poker with real bet. Only then you would understand the meaning of having poker or ANY gambling in virtual world like EVE where they allow you to take balance between risk and a safe environment that is game."


Okay, so you would still play EVE if its a sandbox without any splash explosions and just a bunch of dotted solar systems connected by lines? It is called simulation game and we gamers have been playing it for long. While for a long time we imagined this EVE world where you could fly 3D ships in space, it was made possible by people who envisioned this in thin air. And you only came here and play it and says "I am imaginative" in accepting their imagination.

Incarna is a new stage for CCP and EVE developers, as well as its supporters (not including nay-saying "i'm just a FiS player" people).
It has been how we envisioned it in thin air, how we lusted for years, and we've discussed so many possibilities this could bring to EVE.
What you know as EVE will be changed and different, but please don't limit EVE only to your existentialistic imagination.

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lol, kind of the point. of a vocal minority (the forums) and so few actually wish to prioritize wis > fis. Yet all the incarna fans were talking about how we are the minority. Sigh

What most fail to realize is if EVE forums is 3% of the population (Which, is probably being rather giving.) and only 20% of that 3% want it. extrapolate that onto the player base and we're talking about 30~40k subscribers that care about wis more then fis.

I am sure that you get navigation button window that gives you quick access to locations, bar, mall, and such.
You should also be able to open all the market window, fitting, chats, and other things during your time in bars or walking around.
I too spend a lot of time in station just chatting or fitting or watching the price for no reason.
EVE is different from WoW or any of those "previously" available games, keep your imagination alive, people.