Jita Park Speakers Corner

Please fix POS's

Agreed! CCP: fix the damn pos!

Perhaps pos management is only used by a "small" part of the community because it's one of the most broken down systems in the game.

But poses affect a very large part of the player base otherwise. How many hi-sec systems dont' have a pos? Same for lo-sec. I'm a WH dweller, and we have no choice but to use the system. While I haven't had any nullsec experience in over 2 years, i'm wondering if outposts are so popular in direct relation to pos's being so bad.

At the very least, could we get these features pushed out asap:

The tab system used to be workable...but it's frustrating when it's tied to roles. Allow us to add as many tabs as we individually need (for any pos module that uses tabs for storage)

Let us assign individual tabs to individual pilots, not just each tab per role, or each hanger per role.

This is the absolute minimum that would help alleviate the management and initial pain-in-the-ass part of pos's

Something that would take more time, but is food for thought:

Let us group the hangers (sma's and cha's) into large chunks instead of having all that space between them. A large cube that had all thos services--our at least that could be placed much closer together--would ease layout problems.

Let us condense the space between pos modules so a drug manufacturing farm (and any other pos activity that takes multiple modules) doesn't take 8km of linear space (see above point).

This would be a good start that would make the logistics of using a pos a bit easier.

Faction warfare wasn't working, so you went and spent a lot of time fixing it.
Nullsec is constantly being adjusted (or perhaps more accurately, you're always looking for ways to make it better).
crimewatch and stuff wasn't to your liking so you changed it.
You've modified the UI.
You're balancing ships.
Great! Now i'm assuming that the POS coding is either a lot more complicated or just old and needs to be replaced, but that's not a reason to leave it alone! We don't play EVE because it's easy, and we don't expect you to only fix the problems that have easy to alter code.

Confirming.

And I think CCP have a way of determining how many unique posters there actually are in this thread, if they weren't, well...someone needs to fix that pronto. Also, up to 1300

Working with POS's sucks, please fix them.

Managing a POS is horrible. Please fix them.

Please fix

We get it that you didn't said you won't do it. We get it it's hard, and may need iterations on more than one expansion.
But we don't agree about POS being for only a small part of the population, and we also don't agree about the project being postponed AGAIN.

To try another approach, like used by Poetic, saying a revamp would be good for new players, I'll give you a little story.

When I began EVE 5 year ago, I was coming from WoW, and obviously wasn't too fond of PvP. it took me time to try a player corporation, and I choosed to join one having guys from a previous game I played. But before that (dunno if joining them is a good choice, and hey EVE is scary, maybe they want to eat me ? - don't laught, I got can baited on the noon system on my first mission, 30mn after creating my first char, was still allowed at this time), I tried creating my own corp, and that's how I first left the NPC corp. Why ? Because I wanted a POS.

At this time, I was playing around Rens, and mined in Abudban, one jump from it. But due to my poor computer, it tooked so much time docking and undocking, that I though it would better to be able to drop my cargo somewhere else. At the same time I was interested by doing some production stuff, but obviously there's no slots available, be it to manufacture or research.
The system was 0.7 and so allowed POS. There was an empty slot available (and as a carebear had no issues of standings), so I put my own POS, to empty my cargo of ice, and try some research.

What do I remember ?
That it sucked so much. That is my home ? But it's HIDEOUS ! That's a pile of junk in space!
One of the true reason I wanted a POS was also to have my own thing, my own house... but how can a new player like these things ? It's horrible. Modular POS can change that totally.
Obviously, I also hated how it was complicated to manage that... UI suck so much, and you need to move so much due to the 2500meters things, and how it's hard to put modules closes one to another (and if you fail you need to unanchor and reanchor these... at least you changed the time to anchor/online some time ago, it's always that earnt).
I suppose you realize that for a new player, a small POS is really expansive (I was around one month old). And even if I was doing *things* on it, the fact that it had so much pain, and was so hideous made me quickly change my mind : this thing is not worth it. I wanted it, but it was like YOU didn't wanted me to.

End of the noob story.

I strongly Think POSs need a good revamp, because everyone needs their own little sand castle in eve, and crushing sand castles will make many people happy,

I would love to own a POS that didnt make me pull my hair out, and also had some reasons to use it above living in a station.

Tho I also think POSs hangers and ship bays shouldnt be able to be accessed while in reinforced, There needs to be a way to stop people from moving all their stuff out in high and low sec. Because a loot pinata is not fun its all the candy is taken out before it pops.

ok i undertsand the short sighted view of only a few would be effected by a POS change, but consider this

0.0 towers supply majority of t2 reacted material or moon goo to do it from to make everything t2
w-space supplies all t3 ships and subsystems and reactions from gas

all t1 and capital bpo copying in empire that is run from inside stations due to security issues.

right now you have an idea of just how much is supplied to markets from the use of POS's and how many pilots are actually effected by POS usage directly or in-directly does effect alot more than just a small group are effected by POS and their workings.

graphiclly i think everyone is thinking the same we dont care.

we just need something thats got our asset security in mind or minimium some sort of logging system on asset movements to aid us all catching and proving corp theifts quickly.

for us w-space guys assembling our t3 and redoing sub systems would be highly greatful.
and i expect many would be greatful of the option to repackage stuff hitting hanger item limit counts is very annoying

This is would be good, and should be done.