Jita Park Speakers Corner

What is EvE?

To sum it up: Disappointment.

First there was the whole ambulation mess and so many other broken dreams. Now it is POS.

POS form the back bone and future of EvE.

So many players use them and a lot more do not. Why?

Why would they want to? For hi-sec residents it is easier and more efficient and cheaper not too.

Manufacturing is better and cheaper, Research while taking longer is cheaper and refining well it is a complete joke in a POS.

Why do so many stay in NPC corps and not engage in the community? Again why would they want to, there is no real down side to being in an NPC corp not interacting with the game as a whole besides the markets.

You don't want to fix POS with a complete revamp, ok that is fair enough. How about just improving POS stats and reducing NPC facility stats to allow us a reason for POS.

Let alone for those who live in a POS. Can anyone say increase hanger security?

What I would like to see without a revamp

• NPC facilities reduced to a base 30% refine
• POS facilities increased to a base 50% refine(plus skills)
• more slots added to manufacturing with no extra mineral cost on POS
• A massive increase in the cost of NPC facility manufacturing and research, copying ect.
• tabs in the ship maintenance arrays (yes you don't like them but unless you do a revamp we need them)

Now this is a lot and perhaps you like people who are taking risks to be the second class citizens, so worst comes to worse at least fix refining and the security problems.

You do up a lovely dev blog about Design for “Enablers” & “Instigators” and then 2 seconds later the “Enablers” are once again taking it from behind.

This is very much why when CCP puts out a Dev blog so much of the community just considers it as words on a screen and nothing else.

Yes you have a new corporate structure and the first act is to go against it on day one.

Does not say much for the future other than "More of the same"

Posting. You know us wormhole guys live in POS's too not just the nullbears

This is a massive understatement.

In the nearly 4 years since the introduction of wormhole space content, there has been virtually ZERO development or progression of wormhole space content or mechanics, except two exceptions.

First, was the anticipated storyline content that CCP Dropbear was working on, that we all hoped would lead to in game wormhole/sleeper development. But, any hope for further wormhole space content development seems to have packed up and left with Dropbear when he boarded the plane.

Second, was the one change that actually made a difference in our lives. I bet when this change was being requested a statement to the effect of "inclusion of corp bookmarks by itself would only affect a small portion of the community" was uttered more than once by a developer. Thankfully, corp bookmarks ACTUALLY were finally implemented and it was a GAME CHANGER for wormhole residents, even though it benefited all of Eve, much like POS rework would. Finally, some of the bureaucratic and artificial inefficient barriers were removed so we could actually start enjoying (and actually playing) the game more.

As pointed out by many, POS improvements are beneficial to everyone, but specifically would be a game changer for wspace residents. Unlike null, low, and high sec people we don't have any other options other than to live out of the very broken and poorly designed system that is Player Owned Structures. This unnecessary complexity and difficulty is forced upon us.

We're tired of being overlooked and taken for granted. This is why wspace residents banded together and voted Two Step into CSM. We're significant enough to have CSM representation. You've neglected us for 4 years now. CCP it's time you give us a little respect and attention.


o7 Klokvarg
[ADHC Director who is constantly confused and frustrated by the POS interface]

POS concepts could use some polishing.

Hey look!!! I took part in something! I'm an activist!!!

I am, appearantly part of a minority.

The current pos system needs, nay, DESERVES a revamp!
Last year at FF there was a huge cheer from the crowd when they talked about it, rest assured they'll get a ton of flack about it this year.

If you aren't going to give us the POS Revamp, atleast give us Alliance bookmarks and the POS Revamp.

You have my full support, the POS system does need a lot of improvement. It is too hard to be secure, and little reason to use POS refining arrays over station arrays. Major graphical revamps wouldn't be necessary to address some of the issues that make them such a pain currently.

Hey CCP remember back when POS's were introduced and the current system was said to be a placeholder until the UI and other components could be improved?

Hah, it's been a great decade... where's my update?

Spot on! What are POS managers if not enablers? The guys who fuel the jump bridges? Enablers. The guys who maintain the blue lists and keep ammo in the POS guns? Enablers. The people who run corporations and keep the corporate roles and hangars sorted out? Enablers. The folks who run around setting up corporate bookmarks for gate approach and camping? Enablers.

I really need to reword my argument in the current corporate vernacular!

This. I really thought that after Retribution, and the re-working of Crime Watch, that CCP actually understood their own game for a change. But now I'm not so sure...