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That would be like an Abbadon pilot wanting to have 8 guns that can turn into Tachyons/Mega Pulse/Medium Pulse by pressing a button.

Good for the pilot? Yes.

Good for the game? Hell no.

I am glad they are going to force supercarrier pilots to make compromises, just like everyone else has to.

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It’s obvious to me that the number of players are dropping. the fury of recent blogs are designed to re-energise people into staying. Unfortunately, the changes that are listed as CCPs solutions are just ill thought through, knee jerk reactions by people so far removed from the playing of the game it makes me furious.

My preface is that the very people who have been paying subs for the last 5 years, the people who are growing tired of the game because it is broken, are being placed even more offside by these stupid changes. People who have invested millions of SP and billions of isk into capitals are being killed through stupid misconceptions about how they are used.

Another point is that there needs to be a mechanic separating 0.0 and low-sec. in 0.0 let the big boys duke it out for the billions of moon goo and the like – jump the titans, supers and dreads around all you want. Have different rules for them – they’re fighting for sov, let them bring out the bling – max bonuses. In low sec there needs to be protection for the 3643 (or whatever) corps of 50 people or less who want to pvp without the threat of their 5 baddons, 2 megas and scorp being dropped on by 15 SCs just because it’s fun on a Friday night. Limit the amount of ships that can jump through a cyno into low sec. Prevent fleets with more than 5 caps cynoing into a system. Implement a cyno cool-down onto fleets. Halve the bonuses due to security scanning protocols in low sec. Do something. You dont need to screw supers to fix the prob.

Supers. Where do I start. Forget your stupid idea with the drones. Listen, just give the super enough drone bay for 10 bombers and 10 fighters & 5 spare fighters/fighter bombers and halve the amount of drones able to be deployed at once. Balance this with an additional % of damage per level. Make the pilot choose between putting in bombers, fighters (cap vs bs shooting) and/or any mix of standard drones they wish – a super with 10 sentries/heavies/jamming drones isn’t going to win the next fight in delve but makes a difference to a guy bumped off a pos tackled by a hic and being bumped by 2 machs. Remove the bonuses that allow SC only fleets to remote rep each – force commanders to mix up fleets for reps. Change the ecm burst so that it uses stront so that there is a finite amount of bursting that can be accomplished. The EHP drop is there purely for SC haters – but again it’s stupid. If people are flying supercaps they’ve earned the right to have some ehp buffer. The logoffski rules provide a means that committed smaller fleets have a chance at a kill if they deserve it. I’d be happy to see that the hanger bay and corp hangers on supers be taken away so that they are pure combat ships and must rely on other jump capable ships for logistical support, amp up the fuel bay if you do this.

Titans. Fleet fight suppression is more based on the fear of massive-hostile-fleets bridging in rather than OMG 35 titans have jumped in. Make the distinction between titan and super not guns but the DD and (rebalanced) jump portal. I can tell you for free that having an erebus gate camping in low sec instapowning anything with guns does not make for a fun eve (and unable to do anything because within range there are 12 supers waiting to jump in and take down anybody dumb enough to counter).

When will CCP learn that nothing good comes from BIG changes to anything. In a complex environment like EVE is, you can never understand what will happen when you make even little changes, and big changes are completely random in how they play out. Let’s be honest, CCPs record of deploying quality changes and balancing and game features is not stellar – this smells like more of the same. This whole situation came about because of a BIG change to motherships to become supers. This is like a roundabout now.

For the love of god, instead of making all these changes do 1 or 2 like I suggest, see what happens. if it’s not enough in a month do another one, then another one. Half of why we hate you CCP is that you hype up all these big changes and they never deliver what was promised. Promise less, do more small things and keep your current players happy. You may be trying to grow the game but at this rate you wont grow faster than people will leave if you keep doing crazy wholesale changes that effect people with BILLIONS invested into your universe.

I don’t have a super but I’m not on the bandwagon of NERF THE SUPERS! just because I don’t have one. I want to aspire to one day have one on this toon and the way things are going there is nothing beneficial in “wanting more” out of this game. I might as well stop producing items, buying plexes and adding value to the game and just fly ceptors and cruisers because at least when you **** them up I won’t be throwing billions down the toilet.

Yes. Disappointed?

That is so wrong i dont even know where to begin.

how many times do I have to say it?

More expensive != More Powerful

Specifically the largest ships must be weak to a ship smaller than itself otherwise why would anyone ever fly anything smaller?

when you're talking about that kind of money, the rules of the game have to change.
It is extremely unfair to supercap pilots who have invested that much time and money into the game to allow them to have their ships destroyed by a group of players who have not - at least in aggregate - invested similar time and money.

you've never flown a super, have you?

When you invest 20 billion isk into a single ship, it DAMN WELL BETTER be more powerful than small ships.

the existance of PLEX introduces an exchange rate to Eve. Isk now equals real money.
For subcaps, the value of the ship in real money is so small it doesn't matter - $5, $10, something like that.

Supercapital ships cross out of the realm of intangible pixels and join the real world of real money. A fully fitted Nyx is worth a couple thousand dollars of real money. A titan is worth almost $10,000.

even a small mixed fleet of supers and titans represents over $100,000 of REAL MONEY.

when you're talking about that kind of money, the rules of the game have to change.
It is extremely unfair to supercap pilots who have invested that much time and money into the game to allow them to have their ships destroyed by a group of players who have not - at least in aggregate - invested similar time and money.

Already cancelled all other subscriptions since EVE and CCP has gone to total sh**!

I re-activated for five dollars to ask one question:

Will the Hel be shown any sort of attention? I devoted twenty years of my life to training for, and earning isk (the hard way) for a ship that is all but useless. With these changes, maybe Hel pilots should be reimbursed skill points and given a nyx or aeon of their choice, with deadspace/officer fittings of equal value to their current setup?

What changes can we expect regarding slave-implant equivalents for shield-tanking caps? The non-existence of a real gang bonus when compared to armor-tanked caps?

Minmatar capital pilots have been abused long enough, a statement on the potential changes of the Hel (and minmatar caps in general) is necessary at this point in my opinion.

Unlike many SC pilots, I ratted and plexed to earn my SC, therefore it cost me more man-hours and occasional plex than most who were subsidized by their alliance's goo output or personal bots.

(4 accounts, not just an SC pilot. But I refuse to come back to eve if my most hard-won and highly-trained character will be laughed at by any serious alliance.)



So please, can we have an answer to the 20 billion isk (>$1000 USD) question?

Making the rich corps ships shittier to make it easier for the poor corps to compete against them is just ridiculous.

Having better ships !=winning...it just stacks the odds in your favor. If your opponent brings 10 SCs to a fight and you can only bring 1 subcap then you had better run because you are going to lose. You obviously need to adjust your strategy and try using overwhelming force(numbers) to mitigate their ship quality.

What he is arguing is basic risk vs reward. You want the reward of a 20b killmail? Bring 20b in ships. Any ships. Even ignoring insurance and putting a fleet bs at an average 200 million, thats 100 fleet bs. I HIGHLY doubt you will find a supercap that got caught by 100 bs and lived to tell the tale.

The Nimitz-class supercarriers are a class of ten nuclear-powered aircraft carriers in service with the United States Navy. With an overall length of 1,092 ft (333 m) and full-load displacements of over 100,000 long tons,[1] they are the largest capital ships in the world. Instead of the gas turbines or diesel-electric systems used for propulsion on many modern warships, the carriers use two A4W pressurized water reactors which drive four propeller shafts and can produce a maximum speed of over 30 knots (56 km/h) and maximum power of around 260,000 shp (190 MW). As a result of the use of nuclear power, the ships are capable of operating for over 20 years without refueling and are predicted to have a service life of over 50 years.

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The total cost of construction for each ship was around $4.5 billion.

The Iowa-class battleships were a class of fast battleships ordered by the United States Navy in 1939 and 1940 to escort the Fast Carrier Task Forces which would operate in the Pacific Theater of World War II. Six were ordered during the course of World War II, but only four were completed in time to see service in the Pacific Theater. The last two had been laid down, but as a result of the postwar drawdown of the armed forces they were canceled prior to completion and eventually scrapped. Like other third-generation American battleships, the Iowa class followed the design pattern set forth in the preceding North Carolina- and South Dakota-class battleships, which placed great emphasis on speed as well as on the secondary and anti-aircraft batteries.

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Cost: US $100 million per ship