Player Features and Ideas Discussion

like the mock up pic u made. very cool! =)

ohh... and go for hexagons!!!! woop!

Not bad...
You're right when you say it's familiar to my previous suggestion
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=142837

However I do still think they should be grown (built over time with resources) to give industrialists a defined, required role in 0.0 as opposed to mega rich alliances just buying the packs and building them.

If maintenance was required i.e minerals etc as well as fuel then alliances would be encouraged to occupy territory and consolidate more. Freeing up more space for new alliances whilst creating greater demand for miners and industrialists within 0.0.
Of course something would have to be done with Stations in 0.0 as they are atm (maybe enable maintenance requirements for them also), as time went on without maintenance different facilities would go offline due to "wear and tear" / atrophy to the point where they would become ruins of the "good ol days".

I have the same opinion, wen I suggested the building packs, I was thinking about the current POS system... There must be a way to transfer the old buildings into the new system, so if all get transformed into packs these could be used in the new system without making people mad about losing their precious isk and stuff.
Although It would be wise preventing 2 things for this to work as intended:
1- These construction BPOS ( transformed from the old ones) could be only constructed on the New Starbases.
2- Once the pack is put inside the Construction Base, noone would be able to remove.( including repacked buildings).
So, every alliance will want a industrialist to build and manage the starbase, and since there are allot of these industrialists wanting to play a important role in alliances and corporations but noone like them this will be a wellcome addition to the game.



The plan is: Minerals and PI are used to build the Starbase, and PI with ICE are used as fuel: and since aliances allways want more and bigger they will seek more and more resources. So, the alliances in null-sec will probably spread econnomic industrial Starbases around a region to gather resources, that will be taken to the alliance main Starbase to upgrade and maintain it.

Also we got to remember that CCP plans to put ICE gravimetrics whith spawning possibilities on every system, this will allow small alliances and corps to have a change of autonomy, while the big alliances will hold the Ice Belts.

I have had a idea like yours, though different in some ways

One way to update towers without a huge graphical change, is to keep the tower, but have modules physicaly connect to them at fixed hard points that when a module is placed, a extending connection exists between it and the tower.. Fitted exactly like ships, with varying number of slots, highslots being guns, low slots industry, and medium slots science related.

Yeah I think as long as the POS is modular, it should also be scalable - to gigantic proportions - 200b isk pos that starts out with a 500m isk POS and a couple modules would be a great isk sink..

I think at some point in the future, rather than making stations destructible and allowing many stations per system - stations could be removed altogether.

A more "grand" POS-only system would be far preferable to the current system that only allows 30b startup capital, sov holding, alliance holding corp owners to run a station.

The currently proposed POS changes aren't nearly as wide reaching as I'd like to see.

Well they are going to be making stations destructible anyhow - and people will still lose the upgrades etc for that. Upon saying that I'd like to see better defensive systems. Instead of controlling a gun or a missile launcher, I'd like them to be a bank of guns/missile launchers that fire 6 at a time kind of thing.

Expense and defense should go up hand in hand imo.

My suggestion is this - from my own thread that others pointed out - create some isk sinks.

My idea was similar to yours with the exception of the contstruction blocks. It had more to do with everything being modular.

- . Have a base structure which gave PG/CPU, more of this base structure could be added on, but there are scaling fees required at the time of connection of upgrades - but they can be added in an infinitely scalable way - allowing for large alliances to create huge starbases (100b+) which act as their version of a city for the alliance to use. VFK for goons might be a good example.

- . Modules could be added in a scalable way.

A plain example - My starbase has a market module, but it's only level 1, and allows no taxes to be collected from market transactions, perhaps I add a 2nd market module. At the time of connection I need to pay 1b isk (cash money, not resources - thus the isk sink) to add the 2nd module, and it only allows a 1-2% tax on market transactions.

- . Low barrier to entry for small corps - refineries, offices, repair, storage, labs and factories - these should be able to be added to the POS at low levels for reasonably similar prices as the current prices are.

- . All current station services transfer to POS modules. Remove stations and replace all NPC stations with equivalent POS.

This all doesn't have to be done at once by CCP obviously, it would need to change over time - there's a lot of work there.

1. Lots of advantages to all this - it gives CCP *1* structure to develop instead of the current 2.
2. Stations become destructible.
3. POS become modular and far more scalable.
4. A large ISK sink when the POS is destroyed.

I'm more interested in those 4 points becoming a reality than any given specific module or system - the details will get messed with by CCP anyhow, so an open mind to the specifics is required.

From my perspective I'm interested in being able to START a corp anywhere and be self sufficient - even if the POS has no great bells and whistles. As a miner in a small corp you are often being held hostage by larger alliances who own the local stations to refine at. If they decide they can't really justify your existence in their station - you have zero alternatives.
(This doesn't really effect me anymore, as I have a rorq but this is the kind of thing CCP has overlooked for a long time).

I love this, but please keep in mind realistically - ccp will do their own thing. The concept however, is awesome.

I'd love to see them far more scalable, configurable and still capable of housing a small corp, a mining corp, a trade corp or a large alliance.

Not sure if it has a scalable module system whether the visual of the station itself would show what kind of refinery modules are installed, or factories, or perhaps just a basic showing that there IS a factory and you have to dock to see how good the factories might be.

heres an idea to help with the idea of not having a POS shield anymore. many people have issues cause they believe it'll create POS docking games with some form of subcap docking mod and no shield.

add a mechanic to eve whereby 1 item in space can mask anothers signature. this is entirely dependent on the 2 tiems having a shared property being within a certain ratio. If they are, the smaller signature is masked and the ship disappears off other peoples overviews. concurrently of course if the ships signature is masked, then the ship in question cannot target things itself due to insufficient power to overcome the external interference caused by close proximity to an overly huge object.

this was a brainstormed idea that came up in another thread, if you apply it to POS's then ships wouldnt be able to lock and fire on ships undocking. it could also be added to stations to stop docking games too (if so desired - cue the tears). though bombers wouldnt be affected as bombs are essentially dumb unguided items, so there would still be some docking game interplay.

would it be a good Idea to allow the Starbases to jump away to escape when under siege?

I personally look forward to the day when Chribba launches The Veld-star".. :)