Intergalactic Summit

I support the Administration of President Jacus Roden.

I am troubled regarding the timing of Mr. Hawke’s “request”, considering the military status within the Luminaire system.

However I am forced to agree that regardless of the subversive nature of a person’s opinions, or the inconvenience of their timing, they should be able to express them with their voice and vote.

Liberty should not be held hostage to convenience.

The Administration of Jacus Roden is illegal and proves that the Federation has lost its way with allowing anyone to deny any portion of the Federation such a basic right. I would encourage the people of the Federation to show their discontent and do so loudly and in the streets and hallways on every major and minor world inside it. You have the most basic right to protest and peaceably assemble to demand that justice be done in the face of such monstrosities. I encourage you to do so and make your voice be heard on this topic and many others. For too long, elements of the Federal Government have wished to strengthen their control over the most basic forms of personal liberities. The FIO, SDII and other groups are just a few on a growing list that have acted against the most basic tenants of Gallentean society.

The radical right wing must not be allowed to have their way with the Federation once more. It is therefore the duty of every able bodied citizen of the Federation to make their collective voice heard. Jacus Roden and Mentas Blaque should be forcibly removed from office and the SDII dissolved, and its operations made public.

There is, and when you are put under a microscope for merely voicing discontent with the Federation... something is wrong.

Thank you General for this fascinating lesson in Gallente Federal Civics, or at least for some insights into the brain trust that has been left to defend the core values of the Federation.

Let's see, what can we take away from the General's musings?

If you are omniscient you can supercede the rule of law with the justification that your outcome would have been better than the legal one, thus rendering your violation of the basic principles of democracy moot.

In addition, there really isn't much importantce in voting for the highest executive office in the Federation because when you live in the hinterlands you'd probably do better to mind your own business and let the gentile folk worry about the really complicated matters of state.

It seems to me that what you're saying is that the people of Intaki don't really matter to the Federation as we would have elected the wrong president and that the Federation shouldn't really mean much to us, either.

If I didn't know better, General, I'd say you were a seccessionist.

Jacus Roden is just what the Federation needed. An unscrupulous leader without any delusions about what our president should act like. He puts the well being of the Federation ahead of the means to achieve them.

Not until the Senate can manage to get their heads out of their collective rears, I'd say.

It is always painful when one's favourite candidate doesn't have success among the voters. However, as long as we live in a democracy, there will always be new elections. Among all the buzz and pulse that goes on on the Crystal Boulevard, few people even remember the candidates Aquard, Garioss or Fasio anymore! If one looks for change, perhaps it is better to look forward to the next elections than cling to the past.

When it comes to legitimacy of President Roden's term of service, I must refer to the legislation passed by the Federation Senate on 17.11.111 YC. Nevertheless, in the Federation we enjoy the freedom to express our concerns. Although the past elections seem to be perfectly valid, there is nothing that prevents an individual to take up the issue in court.

When the past elections are analyzed in more detail, it is hard to estimate how the outcome would have changed if Placid had been voting. Fasio's decision to lend his support to Aguard probably discouraged some of the dove-aligned voters, and Garioss was also there offering competition and a tempting alternative. Assuming the distribution of votes in Placid was not totally alien to the distribution elsewhere in the Federation, it is probable that the special legislation had only a minor effect on the final results.

Finally, the question about the role of the Senate regarding the disenfranchisement is somewhat debatable. Many people see that Senate was just an instrument, a middleman having little choice with regard to the outcome. It was not the senators but the brave citizens of Placid who were behind this important sacrifice for the good of the whole Federation. It was due to them that the attempts of the occupying forces to manipulate the elections were cunningly subverted. The rest of the Federal community will always remember the contribution of the Placid-dwellers with reverence. It would be wrong to take this honour away from them and hand it out to the elite.

Mr. Hawke, the issues you brought up are common in any governing body and not unique to the Federation. The root of the problem will ultimately always be the human being.

Excluding the Intaki homeworld, which was never invaded, how did anyone in their right mind expect voting to take place during the occupation of those regions? Any democratic mechanisms were disbanded by the occupying megacorporations. Moreover, as the relevant news reports point out, the communications blackout imposed on the area meant that some areas may not even know who they were voting for to begin with.

Did the citizens of Caldari Prime vote in the last election? No, because they are under foreign military occupation. The same way much of Placid was, and parts of the Verge and Essence. How you expect subjects of a occupying authority to participate in the political operations of the previous government that was forcibly ejected is beyond me.

1) Well, as long as we have our priorities straight.

So abhorrent travesties of democracy are ok as long as no laws get broken.

You can disenfranchise whole swathes of your electorate when it is convenient, as long as no laws get broken.

I have to pause here to question: If basic inalienable rights are not enumerated in legislation anywhere currently, what is it the Senate does, exactly?

I mean when they aren't finding the next way to come across as nothing but a pack of hypocrites?

2) Well, with your divine insight, I guess we don't need to have any elections next round either, just tell us now who wins if you please.

Unfounded speculation.

3) Self-congratulatory, sunshine-and-roses revisionist speculation based on unfounded speculation.

4) Post-hoc ergo propter hoc.

Just because one event follows another in time does not prove a causal link between them.

5) Well, here's what the representatives of those in the occupied zones had to say at the time:

"Senators from occupied space, led by a coalition of senators from the Placid region, have strongly pressed that elections still be held as normal in the occupied systems, despite the logistical difficulties. According to the senators, their constituents are highly invested in the upcoming election, which will dictate the future face of Federation politics and its stance toward the ongoing war with the Caldari State."

http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3570&tid=5

Your glib attempt to cast doubt on how serious an issue this is for many is not entirely unexpected, if fits perfectly with your ability to predict the future that you can also read minds across the cluster. I'm not sure what exactly has been "rendered moot." Is there a statute of limitations on gross violations of the social contract in the Federation?



1) I think it has less to do with "boo-hoo my guy didn't win" and more to do with the whole election being an insult to the principles of democracy that you purport to defend.

2) Never doubt, when a tyrant is rising, they will have a piece of paper that says everything they are doing is absolutely above board. Also, while I can see some arguing that the election is valid, to say it is "perfectly valid" is an insult to those in uniform who died to protect the rights of their fellow citizens that was so cowardly and easily surrendered in the halls of the government they laid their lives down for.

3) You can speculate that it might not have changed, but you know a good way to find out?

Hold a special election now that the threat of widespread manipulation has abated.

I also took the liberty of illustrating how tenuous and utterly fictitious you come across as here when your statement is a nothing but a rambling series of if/maybe/could-haves.

Much like Mr Inhonores, you seem to think your baseless speculating about "might-haves" and "what-ifs" actually stands as a proper subsitute to democratically electing people.

4) Your own news agencies disagree with you.

Why do I know more Federal history and politics than their own defense forces?

After the elections are out of the way, perhaps your Senate could address the deficiencies in Federal civics courses at your educational institutions.