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Is this game for morons only?

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#121 - 2012-07-19 19:03:28 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Anybody please tell me, how to play this game without constantly getting harassed by idiotic players, mostly noobs, which are just wasting my time and spoiling any fun. I'm relatively new myself, just getting into the mining and building side of things, and if I want to fight anyone, I'll go into the lowsec. But while I'm not in the mood for fighting, I stay in the hisec and surely there must be a setting or something, that prohibits others to force me into a fight there (well, I usually mine there, so it's just a matter of them shooting me really, not a fight really). It's not even being blown up that's annoying or loosing a ship, it's cheap to replace, but the time wasted in getting blown up (obviously you get webbed and then it takes them 10-20 minutes to destroy a retriever, because they are inept) and wasted in replacing it is really turning me of this game (aside from the fact, that it takes months before you can fly any halfway decent ship).

So, anybody can tell me either way, is there a setting or something, where I can stop those morons? If not, is it actually the intention of this game to do this? If so, I'm out of here, I have to deal with enough morons in real life, and I couldn't be bothered to do so and call it "entertainment". There is other better games out there, some are even free. To think I was even considering getting a second account on the current special offer - uugh.



High sec is only safe for morons lacking of pvp skills to go there where they have to take some risks, witch they obviously don't like to.
They hide behind concord aggression mechanics to waste your time playing and just think they're better at the game, it's a bullies game, ignore those bastards and find your way to do something more interesting.

brb
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#122 - 2012-07-19 19:04:17 UTC
Equus wrote:
Gogela wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Equus wrote:


Calling a guy who ganks miners a PvP'er is the same as calling a guy who brings a shotgun to a petting zoo a hunter.


Its a player vs player event so its pvp.

...and really, have you actually brought a shotgun to a petting zoo? People freak out and go crazy, for one, and that scares the animals. You start getting some shots off and I guarantee hitting targets will get a lot harder right away.


Pfffft, their hemmed in by fences, they won't get far. Blink

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Andrey Wartooth
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#123 - 2012-07-19 19:05:32 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Is this game for morons only?


Not only.
Yes. Anyone who tries to convince you otherwise is a liar and also possibly the antichrist.
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#124 - 2012-07-19 19:08:52 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
0/10

WoW is that way --->

EVE is not for you

etc etc etc


you gave 0/10 but you fell for it didnt you lol
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#125 - 2012-07-19 19:17:20 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:
having to deal with morons is the bit I don't care for.


Well they have to deal with you, except I don't see them complaining about it.

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Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#126 - 2012-07-19 19:27:22 UTC
Yep OP, it's a pain in the arse but you can learn to avoid it pretty much 100% with some care and attention. It's a question of learning the rules, strategy and tactics for survival. The first thing I ever did in Eve was get scammed. New to MMOs, it didn't occur to me just how common scamming and scammers are. So, those 6 hours of mining in my n00b ship gained me precisely nothing.
Scien Inkunen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#127 - 2012-07-19 19:30:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Scien Inkunen
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Benjamin Eastwood wrote:
In a game driven by people, you're going to have to deal with people.

Go herp derp somewhere else you anti-social recluse.



Dealing with people is great, dealing with morons is annoying, having to deal with morons is the bit I don't care for. And if I'm expected to pay money for it, I'll choose, and I chose not to (although briefly I considered to play a moron too and just randomly shoot at people, but then that sounds awefully boring, and believe me mining already was boring).

PS: and it's not that I had anything worth while looting, may 1k cubic meters of some ore. After some trash talk later he even gave me 10 times its value, guess he got scared I get him banned for blackmailing me in the first place (come to think of it, may be it isn't allowed by CCP after all).


It's not about sandbox or PVP or PVE or harsh game and s**t like that... As in RL, sometime is dangerous even to step out in the street - but you still go out, dont you? Do not take this game too seriously - there always be someone to mock you, one way or another. Just try to play the game as YOU like and try to protect yourself best you can, read the guides (there are bunch of them), read the forums from time to time and you'll be OK.

Fly safe and have fun.

Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life !
Roisin Corcra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#128 - 2012-07-19 19:42:24 UTC
Scien Inkunen wrote:
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Benjamin Eastwood wrote:
In a game driven by people, you're going to have to deal with people.

Go herp derp somewhere else you anti-social recluse.



Dealing with people is great, dealing with morons is annoying, having to deal with morons is the bit I don't care for. And if I'm expected to pay money for it, I'll choose, and I chose not to (although briefly I considered to play a moron too and just randomly shoot at people, but then that sounds awefully boring, and believe me mining already was boring).

PS: and it's not that I had anything worth while looting, may 1k cubic meters of some ore. After some trash talk later he even gave me 10 times its value, guess he got scared I get him banned for blackmailing me in the first place (come to think of it, may be it isn't allowed by CCP after all).


It's not about sandbox or PVP or PVE or harsh game and s**t like that... As in RL, sometime is dangerous even to step out in the street - but you still go out, dont you? Do not take this game too seriously - there always be someone to mock you, one way or another. Just try to play the game as YOU like and try to protect yourself best you can, read the guides (there are bunch of them), read the forums from time to time and you'll be OK.

Fly safe and have fun.


I get your drift, but I thought this was a fun game, not real life, nothing fun about that. Actually, since you mention guides plural, I didn't expect to do a dissertation to just play a bit either (that's actually what I was doing, mining afk to make some cash to buy and try some things, while trying to read up on what to waste it on next - so far all the docs have been poor, ironically the ones on mining were the most reasonable, which is a laugh).
El Cid Campeador
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#129 - 2012-07-19 20:24:53 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Scien Inkunen wrote:
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Benjamin Eastwood wrote:
In a game driven by people, you're going to have to deal with people.

Go herp derp somewhere else you anti-social recluse.



Dealing with people is great, dealing with morons is annoying, having to deal with morons is the bit I don't care for. And if I'm expected to pay money for it, I'll choose, and I chose not to (although briefly I considered to play a moron too and just randomly shoot at people, but then that sounds awefully boring, and believe me mining already was boring).

PS: and it's not that I had anything worth while looting, may 1k cubic meters of some ore. After some trash talk later he even gave me 10 times its value, guess he got scared I get him banned for blackmailing me in the first place (come to think of it, may be it isn't allowed by CCP after all).


It's not about sandbox or PVP or PVE or harsh game and s**t like that... As in RL, sometime is dangerous even to step out in the street - but you still go out, dont you? Do not take this game too seriously - there always be someone to mock you, one way or another. Just try to play the game as YOU like and try to protect yourself best you can, read the guides (there are bunch of them), read the forums from time to time and you'll be OK.

Fly safe and have fun.


I get your drift, but I thought this was a fun game, not real life, nothing fun about that. Actually, since you mention guides plural, I didn't expect to do a dissertation to just play a bit either (that's actually what I was doing, mining afk to make some cash to buy and try some things, while trying to read up on what to waste it on next - so far all the docs have been poor, ironically the ones on mining were the most reasonable, which is a laugh).


Stop feeding the troll!!! The more he is fed the more my head hurts.... I need to stop reading this post then..... Idea
Serena Serene
Heretic University
#130 - 2012-07-19 20:27:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Serena Serene
It's a fun game because you have to pay attention, because there is "danger" .. obviously not to your person, but having to spend significant time on acquiring things you can lose is what makes those things worth more to you, and obviously what makes the loss of them hurt more.

But that also increases the excitement.

I've never played a game (Edit: except EVE) where I got a feeling of accomplishment simply by -running away at the right time- and thus being able to flee a situation with odds stacked against me.

I don't want to miss that. It's not about "being like real life" .. it just seems if you look for relaxed fun without the risk of losing something it's not the right game, since exactly the possibility of these things is what other people, me included, like about this game.

And no, I don't think giving people the choice to be completely safe would work.
"But you wouldn't have to use that option!" <- too many would (and would be bored as result, but still would prefer the safe way and then quit. It happens in so many other games..).
Sometimes you have to force such things onto people for their own good.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#131 - 2012-07-19 20:47:06 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:
are just wasting my time and spoiling any fun.


No, by spoiling your fun, they are creating fun for themselves. You could spoil their fun by not being such an easy target. No one cries like an elite PvPer when he misses a chance to get on a kill mail or loses his shiny ship. Nah, come to think of it that won't spoil his fun, either. But maybe you'll both have fun.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#132 - 2012-07-19 20:49:57 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:


Yeah, just leave high sec, though you can expect to be ganked in the first jump or two by gate camping muppets who prey on those venturing into low sec. You people with your one line ill thought replies on this forum never cease to entertain me.


People actually still believe this horse-puckey?

L2 map-ststistics, and cloak/MWD manoeuvre.

The most heavily/frequently-camped losec systems are well known in any case, and typically easily enough avoided.

Next!

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#133 - 2012-07-19 20:57:16 UTC
Rats wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
0/10

WoW is that way --->

EVE is not for you

etc etc etc



Do you get commission for WoW referrals ?

Tal




You would think he could at least put a link to Blizzard the -> key just moves the darn cursor
Tesal
#134 - 2012-07-19 21:06:45 UTC
Its funny how bent out of shape ppl get over a newb rageposting.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#135 - 2012-07-19 23:24:46 UTC
It was a pretty good troll, at that. So rare hereabouts.

I would say...Hmmm...

...

...

8/10.

Your troll-fu shows great promise, Young One.

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#136 - 2012-07-19 23:29:12 UTC
Aubrey Addams wrote:
its simple: look up dotlan evemaps and find a quieter system to mine, so others wont harhass you that much.


it's really this easy

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Russell Casey
Doomheim
#137 - 2012-07-20 00:56:13 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
0/10

WoW is that way --->

EVE is not for you

etc etc etc


You're sending him to WoW to get away from morons? Bad advice, man, bad advice.
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#138 - 2012-07-20 02:02:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Severide
Geez OP, **** off and get out...

A setting to prohibit others from forcing you to fight? That is incredibly laughable...
Katerwaul
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#139 - 2012-07-20 02:22:40 UTC
Was rather interested in the topic when I thought it was about Mormons.

Far less interesting to listen to tears.

I'm not going to claim that everyone who plays the game ISN'T a moron, but here's a news flash: to post you have to be playing the game too.

"You aren't playing the game the way I want you to be playing the game" does not equal "You're playing the game wrong".
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Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#140 - 2012-07-20 03:16:33 UTC
I'm surprised no one has told the OP how to turn off pvp. Come on guys.

Hit the escape button to bring up the menu

Assign a hotkey to toggle PVP under the hot key tabs. I don't remember what exactly it's under, navigation I think.

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.