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Is this game for morons only?

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Cebraio
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
#81 - 2012-07-19 15:39:08 UTC


The server stats ... they are backwards!
Cebraio
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
#82 - 2012-07-19 15:52:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Cebraio
Roisin Corcra wrote:
All great advise in some way.

For those who wondered about the kill. It was a badger something, he blackmailed me first, 200m or pop, not that I would have the chat open and see that. Then he must have locked me and through the autolock got my drones firing at him I guess, I was reading stuff at the time. Mindyou, I would expect the concord to shoot me then, which didn't happen either. By the time I switched sessions, he had my shield down pretty much, but it still took ages for him to finish the job.

Now, I don't know nor do I care, if blackmailing is allowed or not by CCP, I was told this game was fun, but if I have to deal with the same stuff and stupidity as in real life, that's not what I call fun. There's more fun in watching paint try on a wet day! Mind you, I'm apparently not the only one. I remember 5-6 years ago there were several hundred thousend players in EVE, with over 100k online most times. All I saw now was 10-20k, may be 40k on weekends, I was a bit taken aback by that.


It sounds like you were mining into a jettisoned container (jetcan). Someone stole from you can. That allows you to shoot him, but if you do that, he can shoot back. If you do so, you will probably lose your ship, because the can flipper, as we call them, expects and wants a fight and will be prepared. CONCORD will not care about your little brawl because, by shooting the thief, you agreed to consensus PvP. (Your drones will not auto aggress someone who locks you or steals from you, by the way.)

Because your drones didn't start the fight and you probably didn't do it either, here is what probably happened in this case:
Someone stole from your jetcan and then immediately jettisoned the ore again. Then, in an attempt to get your ore back, you stole from HIS jetcan. This allows him to open fire on you, instead of the other way around.

Then he could scramble and shoot your ship as long as he wants - or until you manage to blow him up. Another option would have been to self destruct your ship during the fight. This would have spoiled his fun greatly and you would have been released. (If you warp off your pod immediately.)

All this can be avoided by having friends. If you would be in a corp with other miners, you would have Orca support and maybe combat pilots etc. You would also get some knowledge about game mechanics.
Roisin Corcra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#83 - 2012-07-19 15:58:56 UTC
Cebraio wrote:
It sounds like you were mining into a jettisoned container...


No, I wasn't can mining, gave that up last week.

On the stats, so the 325k subscribers Eve reported last year don't ring true then either. Can you trust anyone these days?

I think I'll have a nice game of chess instead, and thanks for all the fish.
Alara IonStorm
#84 - 2012-07-19 15:59:56 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:

I think I'll have a nice game of chess instead, and thanks for all the fish.

Sorry one of them wiggled up your ass and died.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#85 - 2012-07-19 16:00:45 UTC
Is this game for morons only?

Nope only the forums. :P

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.

Cebraio
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
#86 - 2012-07-19 16:02:11 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:

On the stats, so the 325k subscribers Eve reported last year don't ring true then either. Can you trust anyone these days?

"Subscribers" is very different from people online at a given time.

Roisin Corcra wrote:

I think I'll have a nice game of chess instead, and thanks for all the fish.

Against a computer opponent? Have fun in the single-player world then. Seems to fit.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#87 - 2012-07-19 16:03:23 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Cebraio wrote:
It sounds like you were mining into a jettisoned container...


No, I wasn't can mining, gave that up last week.

On the stats, so the 325k subscribers Eve reported last year don't ring true then either. Can you trust anyone these days?

I think I'll have a nice game of chess instead, and thanks for all the fish.


More like 400k now.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#88 - 2012-07-19 16:04:12 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:
On the stats, so the 325k subscribers Eve reported last year don't ring true then either.


Number of subscriptions has very little to do with amount of players online.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#89 - 2012-07-19 16:04:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Roisin Corcra wrote:
No, I wasn't can mining, gave that up last week.
Then your initial story is nonsense as well.

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On the stats, so the 325k subscribers Eve reported last year don't ring true then either.
Sure they were. Well, maybe just after Incarna — they were higher before that (and after Crucible).

So no, EVE is not for morons. They don't survive for long and tend to leave when they get completely confused over even very easy facts, figures, and details about the game…
Equus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#90 - 2012-07-19 16:04:30 UTC
While I don't agree with the standard trolls that come out and bash everything to do with hi-sec, Iwill say to the original poster, everyone who tells you to suck it up is right on the money. If you had done any research at all into eve one of the first things you will read every time is that it has more depth than most MMO's and that the learning curve is steep. This alone should tell you that you may want to do your homework to learn some game mechanics.

Second, you admit you were not even paying attention to your mining, if you want to read/browse while mining and you do not have dual monitors, use the in game browser.

Lastly, if you are not willing to learn from YOUR mistake and take precautions to avoid another incident in the future, then quit, there are enough trolls and whiners on these boards, one less will only make things better.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#91 - 2012-07-19 16:06:43 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:
So, anybody can tell me either way, is there a setting or something, where I can stop those morons?



As their CEO, I can assure you can't stop morons.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
None ofthe Above
#92 - 2012-07-19 16:12:02 UTC  |  Edited by: None ofthe Above
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Cebraio wrote:
It sounds like you were mining into a jettisoned container...


No, I wasn't can mining, gave that up last week.

On the stats, so the 325k subscribers Eve reported last year don't ring true then either. Can you trust anyone these days?

I think I'll have a nice game of chess instead, and thanks for all the fish.


To avoid conflict?

Pawn to Queen 4, ganks knight. Your move.

Edit to Add: Go ahead and take the pawn with your supporting pawn. It was a suicide gank. Didn't want that pawn anyway.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#93 - 2012-07-19 16:22:04 UTC
I must say, good show old chap. 5 pages of responses even with the obvious troll give aways. I give it an 8.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **

Fred Lodenstane
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2012-07-19 16:27:12 UTC
If you ever decide to quit eve, can I have your stuff? I promise it will go to a good cause helping out newbros just starting out in the game.
Quaaid
Phoenix Foundry
New Eden Syndicate
#95 - 2012-07-19 16:29:31 UTC
o.O

- High Sec
- 10-20 Minutes to Kill You
- No Wars
- No Jetcan



You are getting owned by belt rats (NPCs) or Trolling (or both).
Gogela
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#96 - 2012-07-19 16:37:35 UTC
Moron checking in, confirming EvE is for morons.

Ugh Derp.

Signatures should be used responsibly...

Ginger Barbarella
#97 - 2012-07-19 16:41:59 UTC
Quote:
Is this game for morons only?


No, but the Forums certainly see a lot of this kind of population... Twisted

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#98 - 2012-07-19 16:56:14 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Anybody please tell me, how to play this game without constantly getting harassed by idiotic players, mostly noobs, which are just wasting my time and spoiling any fun. I'm relatively new myself, just getting into the mining and building side of things, and if I want to fight anyone, I'll go into the lowsec. But while I'm not in the mood for fighting, I stay in the hisec and surely there must be a setting or something, that prohibits others to force me into a fight there (well, I usually mine there, so it's just a matter of them shooting me really, not a fight really). It's not even being blown up that's annoying or loosing a ship, it's cheap to replace, but the time wasted in getting blown up (obviously you get webbed and then it takes them 10-20 minutes to destroy a retriever, because they are inept) and wasted in replacing it is really turning me of this game (aside from the fact, that it takes months before you can fly any halfway decent ship).

So, anybody can tell me either way, is there a setting or something, where I can stop those morons? If not, is it actually the intention of this game to do this? If so, I'm out of here, I have to deal with enough morons in real life, and I couldn't be bothered to do so and call it "entertainment". There is other better games out there, some are even free. To think I was even considering getting a second account on the current special offer - uugh.


Show me on the doll where the bad PvPer touched you?

or

You are a PvE player paying for a PvP game and you think the PvPers are moroons?

H e l l o ? ?

I'm an American, English is my second language...

JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#99 - 2012-07-19 17:09:14 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
Yes, this game is for morons only.

I love EvE and think everybody should give it a try and see first hand that it rocks!
Equus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#100 - 2012-07-19 17:16:58 UTC
Bootleg Jack wrote:
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Anybody please tell me, how to play this game without constantly getting harassed by idiotic players, mostly noobs, which are just wasting my time and spoiling any fun. I'm relatively new myself, just getting into the mining and building side of things, and if I want to fight anyone, I'll go into the lowsec. But while I'm not in the mood for fighting, I stay in the hisec and surely there must be a setting or something, that prohibits others to force me into a fight there (well, I usually mine there, so it's just a matter of them shooting me really, not a fight really). It's not even being blown up that's annoying or loosing a ship, it's cheap to replace, but the time wasted in getting blown up (obviously you get webbed and then it takes them 10-20 minutes to destroy a retriever, because they are inept) and wasted in replacing it is really turning me of this game (aside from the fact, that it takes months before you can fly any halfway decent ship).

So, anybody can tell me either way, is there a setting or something, where I can stop those morons? If not, is it actually the intention of this game to do this? If so, I'm out of here, I have to deal with enough morons in real life, and I couldn't be bothered to do so and call it "entertainment". There is other better games out there, some are even free. To think I was even considering getting a second account on the current special offer - uugh.


Show me on the doll where the bad PvPer touched you?

or

You are a PvE player paying for a PvP game and you think the PvPers are moroons?

H e l l o ? ?


Calling a guy who ganks miners a PvP'er is the same as calling a guy who brings a shotgun to a petting zoo a hunter.