Warfare & Tactics

I haven't personally had much experience at PVP as of yet, and thus haven't had the chance to fly with many FCs.

However, I was part of a short impromptu Amarr militia roaming gang a couple of weeks ago that was lead by a very friendly and polite FC (whose name sadly eludes me at the moment). There were around 15-20 of us (it varied, as people dropped and joined), mostly in frigates (mostly T1 with a couple of Assault frigs and interceptors) and destroyers. The FC was very patient and didn't lose it at people who accidentally jumped instead of holding on gate and similar, which happened a couple of times. We did pretty well too (by my estimate, at least). killing two hurricanes, two drakes and a talos and losing a harbinger and a handful of assorted frigates if I recall correctly.

It was a fun little roam and speaking as someone who albeit has little experience in the subject, I think the FC did an excellent job. It was certainly a pleasure and a privilege to fly with them.

I can see how it might be different in larger fleets and with more expensive ships at stake though. I don't necessarily see why an FC couldn't be friendly, though obviously discipline is more of a priority for srs business fleets than it is for cheapfit "for the lulz" FW gangs.

double.

I want to give you a hug for ensuring that Grant died in that fight. It would have been better if he had been the only one on there :)

Yeah, i told the logis to not rep him for bringing the wrong ship... can you see the issue, one of these ships is not like the others, one of these ships is not the same

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Were they french?

When I was a noob, and probs no more than a few weeks old, and didnt know any better, my FC told me to shoot at the ship w the white cross, which I dutifully did

In syndicate i used to say: "Returning home in ships? FC was not brave enough."

when I was first in 0.0 ( many years ago) the FC that ran the big fleets just didnt take any crap and ran teh fleet with an iron fleet which meant everythign ran smoothly - they wernt overly rude they were just very strict, IE;

1. the fleet would leave at the stated time and if your late you get left behind, if this meant the fleet wasnt big enough to do what was intended they would either have a go anyway (sometimes worked) or did something else with it.

2. never had set fleets - it was always just bring a BS, if you cant then bring a logi, if you cant then bring ecm etc etc

3.FC would always jump last and fleet warp once on the other side - being in a massivly heavy BS if you hadnt aligned in time to catch teh warp it was your own fault and youd be left behind - plus the whoel fleet would see you fail and youd be called out :P

4. scouts are meant to

5. unfortunatly yelling and rudeness is the only cure for this

6. only the FC and scouts the FC had said were scouts coudl talk on comss - anyone else talked they were kicked from the channel

7. see 6

8. possible kick from fleet, would certainly get left behind if the fleet had to move- FC would probably remember your name and make sure you never had a cyno fitted in his fleet again.

9. see 6




After a while in 0.0 i noticed fleets getting more and more sloppy and a bigger waste of time...helped lead to my 0.0 burn out

Personally i do not like to FC.

I am well known unfriendly FC when i do it.

But if you fly with unexperienced pilots, they do lot of stupid stuff that can be avoided if they focus more what they are doing, if they know more how to do it and so on. Giving direct response that something went wrong is one way to do it, some other FC try to say it after fleet op, but i personally think that it works better to give it right away, although some people do not like it. But hey who want to hear they have failed.

I was flying logistic ships mostly when i was in draketrain, it is quite hard to remember to push that need reps button for some people. Why to even fly logistics if fleet members does not want it. Same goes with FC:ing, why to FC if people do not follow your orders or they focus to do something else while in fleet, they do not need FC anyway.

Problem in EVE is that most people join to have fun, and having fun does not include training your player skills, and FCing unexperienced players is not fun, and if FC does not have fun then whole fleet does not have fun.

So if you want to have friendly FC in your fleet, train your player skills and focus 110% on fleet action and try to do your best and fly ships fitted like FC wants.