EVE General Discussion

You said crap more often than I said lower backs today while meaning arse! I salute you, Goon.

CCP stopped focusing on spaceships, started focusing on Incarna.

Subscriptions canceled, log-ins dropped.


Sorry barbie maniacs, you just got pushed to the back of the line.

I have always been opposed to the very idea of Incarna. Eve at it's core is an internet spaceships game.

If you wanna walk around in a space station, go get a SecondLife account.

I was really worried that Incarna was going to become the focus of Eve's development. I was considering cancelling my accounts because of it. However, with this latest news, I will be keeping my accounts, and maybe even adding a new one.

TL;DR: Accounts subbed!

Yes, and if you take your.... *staying classy*.... If you care to read all that has been said again you will realize that Incarna was not scrapped, only put into its proper place on the development priority list.

CCP prioritized Incarna while there was still things to do. Now they are backtracking, and taking the proper path.

LOL - You did read my earlier doubts on avatar geeks working on FiS stuff, right? There is no "priority FiS or WiS" I think.
They use the FiS shouters so they can.. Ah, I give up. Search for my earlier posts. I'm tired.

Like i asked you on another thread.. have you got any idea about how feature development works? Or do you think its only Team A do this and Team B do that.. then you get everything together and bundle into one expansion?

That's just what they want you to believe untill WiS is complete.

This is just a ******** thing to say.

Different players enjoy different activities in EVE. There is no point to dismissing their particular interest because you do not share it. Some players don't want Incarna, some do, some don't care, some want elements of both. Similaly some don't want to do planetary interaction, or mining, or pvp or PVE. We all have our favourite ways of playing the game, and I think it is one of EVE's strengths that we actually have all of these ways of interacting with the game.

Personally I have no problem with each group having their particular interests focussed on for a particular expansion. I just have a problem with the half arsed approach to satsifying their interests that has typified CCP for the last few expansion cycles.

I don't care about the content of the next expansion. I just want a polished set of features that actually - for once - meet our expectations.

Finishing Establishments by Winter was very unlikely, and everyone should have known better by the time the CQ launch was pushed so far back to be a WINTER expansion when it was implicated to be a late Incarna expansion addition.



Establishments are more than just the structures.


Establishments for EVE represents the following :


Player owned station rooms, 100% customizable establishments, UI to manage customized establishments (including scripting NPCs), mutliple establishments per station, multi-player environment supporting undefined number of players, mini-games (poker, etc), Scripted NPC's, Stripper NPC actions and "clothing", social "drinking", functional environments, emotional animations (smile, sad, angry, wave), interactive environments, a concourse(??) to move between establishments, new boosters, booster trading mechanics in establishments only, player policed booster smuggling, new "local" channel, and the list goes on and on and on for establishments.


All of that is NOT getting done by winter. It's a fact, it's way too much and rushing it is just going to make it crapola. Establishments might seem like a simple addition, but really it's a whole content package that is going to be really challenging to get right, and they have ONE SHOT to do it right, so they better hit it on the head the first time.


I wish it were coming this WInter, but the fact is it just isn't.

I assume ccp is working / has been working on the minigames, would it be too much to ask for the simple ones to be added to our quarters so that we can atleast see what you had in mind without taking staff from anywhere else as the minigames should already be finished( you did show them at fanfest)