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At the very least, if you're going to do this shift-clicking thing, make shift-clicking the ship icons in the hangar open their inventory. Come on, give me something.

As a matter of fact, you can doubleclick on the ship on the hangar floor, and the cargohold opens. I kind of accidentally discovered this yesterday

EDIT: nvm. I misread unactive ships. Sorry.

speaking of opening your current ship's cargohold, where you have you hidden that option while you're in space? i know there's a UI button near the modules/speed control but the "open cargohold" in right click on your own ship while in space is suddenly MIA, can you guys fix this please?

You've never done PI, have you?

You forget the shortcuts between clicks.

Even if the old system is unrecoverable...rebuild it. You have the technology. Faster. Stronger. The Six Million Dollar Mismanagement is not just a dream!

-1 in 6 days and -2 in 12 more good job ccp

i think the new ui sucks

it takes forever to get in to the ship main hangar in th wh because everything else has to load too
used to be able to switch ships in a couple seconds

Tried it after the patch.

Still sucks the sweat of a dead man's balls.

What is the point of shift-click? What was the thinking about it? Why did you guys get SUCH a hard on for it?

I mean virtually every other competent UI on the planet use's double click to open a new window. It's so ubiquitous now, it's whats causing you so much trouble with us unpaid beta testers. Windows, OSX, and all their predecessors use it. Hell, even my Amiga did that a quarter of a century ago. That's what were all so used to it now. It's second nature. So why did you decide that IBM, Microsoft, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs got it wrong with that one? I'm at a total loss to understand your thought processes on that one.

So I still have to use shift-click to open a window within the tree do I? I also have to press alt-c to open a new instance of the inventory. Again why? I mentioned it before on the test server feedback but as we are all now aware, you thoroughly read all that and actioned it all so maybe I'm wasting my time saying it again but here goes.

Why after three years of playing this game happily, easily, quickly and efficiently using just a mouse, do I now start needing to use the keyboard for anything other than logging in and using chat windows? Have you guys signed a new deal with Logitech or something?

Any user interface of any value has failed a fundamental law in its design if it can't be used purely with one form of user device, i.e. a mouse.

As an example. I have, like many of us here a small window showing the cargo hold of my active ship. its open all the time, in space and in station. It's there to check ammo levels and so on. But if I now click inventory on the neocom, that cargo hold window becomes the inventory in station. In order to open a separate instance of it I have to press alt-c. If I have to close it to do something else, say fit a ship with mission specific shield hardeners in my ships cargo hold, I close the fitting window down but then have to press alt-c again. It's counter-intuitive and goes against nearly three decades of GUI use on my part and I'm guessing many other player. Also opening a big Inventory window next to a non-scaleable fitting window on one screen is next to bloody impossible.

So why not double click the inventory icon on the neocom to open that new instance? Why can't it be done? Or even right click on the neocom icon and get a third option along with open and close. Open New Inventory Window perhaps?

Also, get rid of the ISK valuation. It's not even close to being accurate and it WILL be the biggest source of lag as the client downloads the info. The cargo hold volume indicator. Its too big. Reduce the size of it or change the design. Perhaps a red line, a few pixels high, replaced from left to right with blue as a percentage of the space being used up. Or simply in the top corner '37.5 m of 120 m used. Do I need a graphic to visualize that for me, when I can conjure in my own head what 82.5 m of remaining cargo space might look like. Anything that takes up valuable screen space, that isn't required to play the game, should be made a select-able option. Some of don't have a multiscreen set-up to play the game.

But it's main problem is still the one thing you seem to be incapable of understanding. You said yourself in that first dev blog. Players NEED to have multiple windows open to play the game so we've decided the answer is just one.

Read it out loud to yourselves. Read it out slowly.

WE need MULTIPLE WINDOWS to PLAY the game.

YOU decided we only needed ONE.

The result...?

You FORCED one window onto us, WE can NO LONGER PLAY the game.


Repeat that to each other as many times as it takes and eventually you'll see the problem. it's an oxymoron. A completely contradictory statement. It sounds just wrong and silly.

I'm probably in the vast minority in saying this, and I'l probably receive walls of flames, but here goes. I love the new unified inventory. Before inferno, I'd stack all my inventory windows. I knew what was open by the tab names.

I've heard a lot about opening your ship cargo, dragging between them, whatever. I don't understand the problem here. You don't need to open it. It's already open. That's what the tree view is for. Everything there is already open. In the same way I used to drag everything to the tabs to move it between containers, now I just drag to the name on the tree view.

I now don't have to open up all my containers and cargo holds to them stack them and start dragging, they're all just there in the tree view ready for me. So far the new unified inventory has saved me loads of time. in loading up ships, looting, salvaging. It just makes everything easier and a hell of a lot less cluttered.

Thank you CCP =]