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CCP employees must be removed from the game.

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#541 - 2012-05-10 20:46:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Brooks Puuntai
arcca jeth wrote:
I guess the question that would be nice for someone to answer is:

Are there any CCP employees that play the game that are NOT involved or associated with GOONS and if so, are they in a High-Sec only corp? Would they publicly admit or endorse that player corporation? Is there anyone within CCP who is anti-goon?

I'd have to say that most likely the answer to this is a big NO. Otherwise, you would have heard about it by now. I've never heard of a single accusation that DEVS are involved with any other corps or alliances other than the BOB stories from years ago.

Certainly there are other large alliances that are enemies of GOONS that could make for some great gameplay for the devs if they chose to fight against them. But that wouldn't happen because of the "watch the world burn" mentality that the GOONS have and I'm sure if the shoe was on the other foot, that they would protest the GM/DEV's involvement against them, and would might even try to pull a "everyone in the alliance threat to quit" card to get their way.

So really that's the lingering question. Why do the DEVs choose to get involved with GOONs rather than GOON enemies? And if there are, where are they? Why are they hiding in the shadows in regards to that but not the other way around?

Would a CCP Dev ever help a large alliance fight GOONs toward their final days?

Anyways, food for thought I guess.


This has a lot of tinfoil in it.

However if you watch any of the interviews of CCP members or Fanfest videos, you would see that A LOT if not the majority of CCP employees are actually high-sec dwellers. Who usually do casual mining or missions. Also to rebuttal your other argument, there is no definitive evidence nor has any CCP member even admit to being in Goons. The reason Sreegs and Soundwave are considered was because they USE to be members before joining CCP. Sreegs for example I believe quit Eve/Goons for awhile before getting hired on, pretty much after he forgot to pay alliance bills.

For all we know those who people claim to be members of Goons cut their ties long ago, or don't even play Eve seriously enough to be bothered with ingame politics. Either way we will never really know since CCP generally keeps their personal characters relationships private and for a good reason it seems.

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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#542 - 2012-05-10 20:46:40 UTC
the evidence is there, it's called EVE history. They've done it in the past, what would keep them from doing it again?
Nevigrofnu Mrots
Goonswarm Federation
#543 - 2012-05-10 20:48:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Nevigrofnu Mrots
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
CCP Sreegs wrote:




Plenty of reasons have been given. Try answering them.

I especially like the 15 minute response time for Goon petitions.

I know, I know, they filed more than one petition and that NEVER EVER has that happened in a massive PvP game. NEVER EVER.

So having more than one petition is such a monumental event that it had to be responded to more than 100x faster than normal.

Needless to say, no information, nor the name of, the GM answering the petition will be released.

So you can conceal evidence all you want, but it doesn't make you look innocent. Quite the opposite.

And to be clear I strongly suspect that GM is a Goon friend and rendered the decision he did because he was a friend of the Goon.

Discussion of this case and the evidence presented is all over this forum.



15? nooo 5 minutes!

I start all my petitions with the sentence: Im a goon and The Mitanni orders that this petition be processed now!


in less than 5 minutes I always get an answer:


"dear goon overload, please tell the mitanni to not get mad with my delay, I have a family and I need this job.
About your lost ibis when gangink a JF in Jita, we will return the ibis plus a complementary Dramiel to your hanger and the JF pilot that dared not to die will be banned for 15 days as requested."


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HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#544 - 2012-05-10 20:50:07 UTC
arcca jeth wrote:
the evidence is there, it's called EVE history. They've done it in the past, what would keep them from doing it again?
that's not evidence that's baseless speculation

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#545 - 2012-05-10 20:52:42 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:

Quote:

Yeah but you go by that we'll never be able to talk about anything in EVE-O ever again


Well, he didn't say ban. Removing the more vicious unsubstansiated accusations would be appropriate.

As to the latter, you have a point. Smile


even that though, from the more tinfoily will enflame their opinion that theyre right CAUSE their post got snipped


I'm afraid that when it comes to reality those opinions really aren't relevant to either current legal practice or our obligations to our employees. Having an opinion isn't carte blanche to character assassinate no matter how much you like your spaceships.

Our employee's right to not have random people on the internet use a public forum (least of all our own) to paint them as criminals, pedophiles, or any other in the gamut of accusations that have been tossed around, including in this thread, far outweighs anyone's right to be a jerk on the internet and to be completely honest I feel like I'm posting from some alternate reality to even have to make that statement.


Wait what? Whered THAT happem? Im talking about ppl saying CCP is in cahoots with Goons which fits none of the " to paint them as criminals, pedophiles," definition...
I think I missed that part of the thread

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#546 - 2012-05-10 20:53:56 UTC
Expected defensive response by a GOON

the BOB Tech 2 BPO stain will always linger
Andrey Wartooth
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#547 - 2012-05-10 20:55:15 UTC
HVAC Repairman wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
the evidence is there, it's called EVE history. They've done it in the past, what would keep them from doing it again?
that's not evidence that's baseless speculation

Baseless speculation based on past events.

It'd be like insisting that President Obama built secret internment camps for Japanese people because the US did it during World War II.
HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#548 - 2012-05-10 20:58:01 UTC
arcca jeth wrote:
Expected defensive response by a GOON

the BOB Tech 2 BPO stain will always linger
expected response from a hisec tinfoil hat wearing mouth breathing pubbie

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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#549 - 2012-05-10 20:58:11 UTC
no, but they dedicated out of county prisons (detainment camps) for enemies of the U.S. which happen to be mostly arab/islamic extremists. Not copy and paste but maybe, copy/paste,edit for modern day acceptance
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#550 - 2012-05-10 20:59:36 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
reegs for example I believe quit Eve/Goons for awhile before getting hired on, pretty much after he forgot to pay alliance bills.

Forgetting to pay bills is pretty big Big smile

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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#551 - 2012-05-10 20:59:51 UTC
HVAC Repairman wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
Expected defensive response by a GOON

the BOB Tech 2 BPO stain will always linger
expected response from a hisec tinfoil hat wearing mouth breathing pubbie


lol now your resulting to name calling. how very entertaining and quite intelligent of you. just another mindless GOON
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#552 - 2012-05-10 20:59:57 UTC
HVAC Repairman wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
Expected defensive response by a GOON

the BOB Tech 2 BPO stain will always linger
expected response from a hisec tinfoil hat wearing mouth breathing pubbie


Andrey Wartooth wrote:
HVAC Repairman wrote:
[quote=arcca jeth]the evidence is there, it's called EVE history. They've done it in the past, what would keep them from doing it again?
that's not evidence that's baseless speculation

Baseless speculation based on past events.

Oh crap the Goons are disagreeing! Wait! Youre not allowed to have independant thoughts in the Hive!!

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#553 - 2012-05-10 21:00:56 UTC
arcca jeth wrote:
HVAC Repairman wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
Expected defensive response by a GOON

the BOB Tech 2 BPO stain will always linger
expected response from a hisec tinfoil hat wearing mouth breathing pubbie


lol now your resulting to name calling. how very entertaining and quite intelligent of you. just another mindless GOON
you're

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Andrey Wartooth
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#554 - 2012-05-10 21:01:14 UTC
arcca jeth wrote:
no, but they dedicated out of county prisons (detainment camps) for enemies of the U.S. which happen to be mostly arab/islamic extremists. Not copy and paste but maybe, copy/paste,edit for modern day acceptance


So basically you are agreeing with what I said.
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#555 - 2012-05-10 21:01:51 UTC
HVAC Repairman wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
HVAC Repairman wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
Expected defensive response by a GOON

the BOB Tech 2 BPO stain will always linger
expected response from a hisec tinfoil hat wearing mouth breathing pubbie


lol now your resulting to name calling. how very entertaining and quite intelligent of you. just another mindless GOON
you're


I type how i want sucka
Andrey Wartooth
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#556 - 2012-05-10 21:03:06 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:

Oh crap the Goons are disagreeing! Wait! Youre not allowed to have independant thoughts in the Hive!!


I was agreeing with him and adding my own thoughts to it.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#557 - 2012-05-10 21:03:55 UTC
arcca jeth wrote:
HVAC Repairman wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
HVAC Repairman wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
Expected defensive response by a GOON

the BOB Tech 2 BPO stain will always linger
expected response from a hisec tinfoil hat wearing mouth breathing pubbie


lol now your resulting to name calling. how very entertaining and quite intelligent of you. just another mindless GOON
you're


I type how i want sucka


Its at that point the gewn got blocked like he should have been anyways lol

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#558 - 2012-05-10 21:04:05 UTC
me too maybe we can use this common shared interest to repair the strained relationship between our two cultures

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Hestja
POBEDIT oao
#559 - 2012-05-10 21:04:31 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
CCP employees must be removed from the game.


nooo!!! they drop nice loot

but yeah, CCP plays there own game, nothing u can do about that
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#560 - 2012-05-10 21:05:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
This thread gives me a headache.



I like your sig

Hestja wrote:
Atomic Virulent wrote:
CCP employees must be removed from the game.


nooo!!! they drop nice loot

but yeah, CCP plays there own game, nothing u can do about that


Dont they remove that loot when players get it?

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game