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CCP employees must be removed from the game.

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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#81 - 2012-05-07 20:58:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Calfis wrote:
Atomic Virulent wrote:

Doing further research on Goons and their nefarious activities, it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.


Dude, its a sandbox, don't build sandcastles if you can't keep the kid with ass-burgers from tripping and falling on it.



Everyone that posts like thing along with what I would figure to be most of the Goons ARE "ass-burgers" sufferers Id be willing to bet. IE you doth protest too much bud

Meh thats OK, CCP will weed out the posting priveleges of anyone non goon soon enough. They can post and troll and break any rule here THEY WANT but WE get banned. Who'd put up with that long?

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game

Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#82 - 2012-05-07 21:00:28 UTC
Seems like the OP is confused, or mad, or both?

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave

Caecilia Arene
Doomheim
#83 - 2012-05-07 21:08:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Caecilia Arene
Love this community. I've been playing for long enough to have heard both sides of the debate.

It goes something like this ;)
1. waaah!... This game sux! Do the DEVs actual play this game because they should so they too can see the suckful features!! They should be forced to play the game!

2. waaah!... The devs are playing this game and could be cheating, influencing alliances, and generally behaving badly!! They should not be allowed to play!!

lol Cool
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#84 - 2012-05-07 21:24:58 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
As many CCP employees as possible should play EVE. Ideally all of them would get in at least 6-8 hours a week.


Only if they play as a NORMAL PLAYER not as a "I'M CCP SO SUCK UP TO ME" special favored little princess.


Since CCP employee's can only have regular characters (unless using official, recognizable CCP accounts) and can not hold positions of power in any player organization, as well as being strictly monitored by IA, you have your wish.

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Enuen Ravenseye
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2012-05-07 21:25:08 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Wait a minute!

This is all starting to make sense to me.

So what the OP is trying to get at is that the Goons Cult have formed a fake gaming company named Crowd Control Productions for the sole purpose of luring virgins (and possibly Unicorns) to Fanfest for ritual sacrifice to their dark god via barbecue over Icelandic volcano's.

The unrestrained ganks, CCP playing their own game, Iceland, Unicorns, volcano's, Fanfest... it all makes sense now.

Thank you OP, it's like someone turned on the lights.

Mind... Blown...


You know too much. You'll have to be sacrificed along with the virgins and unicorns. I hope you like barbecue sauce.
Wolf Kruol
1st Tikiona Lancers
Citizen's Star Republic
#86 - 2012-05-07 21:30:21 UTC
CCP needs to be involve with this game. However they can't pick sides. They must stay neutral. But I'm seeing some members of CCP have chosen a side. This will cause problems down the road. Maybe small now.. but sooner or later the other side will get tired of CCP cheating.

The question is will ccp want another issue far worse than the last one they had? What?

“If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?

You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!”

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#87 - 2012-05-07 21:31:53 UTC
Enuen Ravenseye wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Wait a minute!

This is all starting to make sense to me.

So what the OP is trying to get at is that the Goons Cult have formed a fake gaming company named Crowd Control Productions for the sole purpose of luring virgins (and possibly Unicorns) to Fanfest for ritual sacrifice to their dark god via barbecue over Icelandic volcano's.

The unrestrained ganks, CCP playing their own game, Iceland, Unicorns, volcano's, Fanfest... it all makes sense now.

Thank you OP, it's like someone turned on the lights.

Mind... Blown...


You know too much. You'll have to be sacrificed along with the virgins and unicorns. I hope you like barbecue sauce.


I'M BEING REPRESSED!!!

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#88 - 2012-05-07 21:32:40 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Enuen Ravenseye wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Wait a minute!

This is all starting to make sense to me.

So what the OP is trying to get at is that the Goons Cult have formed a fake gaming company named Crowd Control Productions for the sole purpose of luring virgins (and possibly Unicorns) to Fanfest for ritual sacrifice to their dark god via barbecue over Icelandic volcano's.

The unrestrained ganks, CCP playing their own game, Iceland, Unicorns, volcano's, Fanfest... it all makes sense now.

Thank you OP, it's like someone turned on the lights.

Mind... Blown...


You know too much. You'll have to be sacrificed along with the virgins and unicorns. I hope you like barbecue sauce.


I'M BEING REPRESSED!!!

Honey barbecue?

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2012-05-07 21:35:21 UTC
npc corp posters seven years behind the times
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#90 - 2012-05-07 21:35:33 UTC
Wolf Kruol wrote:
CCP needs to be involve with this game. However they can't pick sides. They must stay neutral. But I'm seeing some members of CCP have chosen a side. This will cause problems down the road. Maybe small now.. but sooner or later the other side will get tired of CCP cheating.

The question is will ccp want another issue far worse than the last one they had? What?


Would that be the side that got Tier 3 Battle Cruisers that are good at suicide ganks?
Or the side that got insurance pay outs removed for Concord kills, and the Boomerang exploiit fixed?

Those crafty devils have chosen to take BOTH sides, which is like double the conspiracy.

Get a rope...

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Minabunny
Bogus Brothers Corporation
#91 - 2012-05-07 21:37:15 UTC
That will never happen. So wait for Gw2 to be released and quit eve and never look back.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#92 - 2012-05-07 21:39:39 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Enuen Ravenseye wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Wait a minute!

This is all starting to make sense to me.

So what the OP is trying to get at is that the Goons Cult have formed a fake gaming company named Crowd Control Productions for the sole purpose of luring virgins (and possibly Unicorns) to Fanfest for ritual sacrifice to their dark god via barbecue over Icelandic volcano's.

The unrestrained ganks, CCP playing their own game, Iceland, Unicorns, volcano's, Fanfest... it all makes sense now.

Thank you OP, it's like someone turned on the lights.

Mind... Blown...


You know too much. You'll have to be sacrificed along with the virgins and unicorns. I hope you like barbecue sauce.


I'M BEING REPRESSED!!!

Honey barbecue?


Oh.... okay then.

But it will have to wait until after the next Alliance Tournament.

There are some subliminal messages planned for the video broadcast that I don't want to miss.

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Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#93 - 2012-05-07 21:57:24 UTC
Look at this fluffed up high-sec pubbie thinking he has any relevance or say in any matters. We'll continue to keep CCP employees very comfortable during our little visits to Iceland, if you know what I mean.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Goatfather
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#94 - 2012-05-07 22:41:30 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
In recent months, I have had a few experiences that have made my time with EvE quite bitter. That off-color taste was a direct result of coming into contact with what is essentially the STD of New Eden... Goons.

For one, I have a contact who was defrauded by Goons as a result of being contacted from within RECRUITMENT chat. At the time, the MOTD in the channel specifically stated that using to channel to scam was NOT ALLOWED.

The player appealed, including the fact that the channel prohibits use of the channel for such things, and his loss of ISK but was flatly denied. Ironically, the MOTD changed the very next day and was sans the scam prohibition, only now WARNING against scams. CCP continued to LIE and claim that the MOTD had changed a month before the incident, which is still a complete LIE.

Doing further research on Goons and their nefarious activities, it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.

This incident, in addition to anti-playerbase events such as 'Burn Jita' (trit was less after then it was before.. LOL!!), the sponsorship and basically now ownership of Hulkageddon, the custody of virtually every tech moon, every change in game benefiting Goons more than any other group, a flaky 30-day suspension for virtually laughing away a human being's life, joke or not.... and so on and so forth.

I had come to my own personal conclusion that CCP and Goons have a deep, close relationship. Was I crazy or just looking for an answer that I could live with? Come to find out, one of CCP's most active and out front employees representing EvE, CCP Soundwave, was a Goon director, even presenting for the alliance at FanFest : See it here. Ya like that little sickness you are feeling knowing that their frontman is a f*cking Goon at heart?

Given the knowledge, information and other abilities that ANY CCP employee has at their fingertips, it would be prudent, fair and HONEST to prohibit CCP employees from participating in the game.

There is just too much B*LLSHIT Goons get away with that would not be tolerated by any other group not friendly to them. I have to believe that there are countless more CCP employees in Goon corps and blues.

These close relationships create a most unfair and unbalanced situation. Knowing beforehand changes that players are not aware of, being able to reposition and strategize before the rest of the playerbase is aware is absolutely UNETHICAL


Good to know. Thanks for taking the time to post.
Pres Crendraven
#95 - 2012-05-07 22:49:46 UTC
CCP suck so bad we should Burn Jita

Meta34me

Corp and Alliance details hidden to protect the innocent.

Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#96 - 2012-05-07 23:04:30 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
npc corp posters seven years behind the times


You actually dare say that in that...that Medieval sack ?

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900

Brock Khan
Farmers Union Iced Coffee
Pandemic Horde
#97 - 2012-05-07 23:11:00 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
In recent months, I have had a few experiences that have made my time with EvE quite bitter. That off-color taste was a direct result of coming into contact with what is essentially the STD of New Eden... Goons.

For one, I have a contact who was defrauded by Goons as a result of being contacted from within RECRUITMENT chat. At the time, the MOTD in the channel specifically stated that using to channel to scam was NOT ALLOWED.

The player appealed, including the fact that the channel prohibits use of the channel for such things, and his loss of ISK but was flatly denied. Ironically, the MOTD changed the very next day and was sans the scam prohibition, only now WARNING against scams. CCP continued to LIE and claim that the MOTD had changed a month before the incident, which is still a complete LIE.

Doing further research on Goons and their nefarious activities, it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.

This incident, in addition to anti-playerbase events such as 'Burn Jita' (trit was less after then it was before.. LOL!!), the sponsorship and basically now ownership of Hulkageddon, the custody of virtually every tech moon, every change in game benefiting Goons more than any other group, a flaky 30-day suspension for virtually laughing away a human being's life, joke or not.... and so on and so forth.

I had come to my own personal conclusion that CCP and Goons have a deep, close relationship. Was I crazy or just looking for an answer that I could live with? Come to find out, one of CCP's most active and out front employees representing EvE, CCP Soundwave, was a Goon director, even presenting for the alliance at FanFest : See it here. Ya like that little sickness you are feeling knowing that their frontman is a f*cking Goon at heart?

Given the knowledge, information and other abilities that ANY CCP employee has at their fingertips, it would be prudent, fair and HONEST to prohibit CCP employees from participating in the game.

There is just too much B*LLSHIT Goons get away with that would not be tolerated by any other group not friendly to them. I have to believe that there are countless more CCP employees in Goon corps and blues.

These close relationships create a most unfair and unbalanced situation. Knowing beforehand changes that players are not aware of, being able to reposition and strategize before the rest of the playerbase is aware is absolutely UNETHICAL




I have been saying for years now on various chars. that ccp bieng involved in player corps is insider trading and should be stopped. As well as the CSM members should not be allowed to have back to back terms, and should not be allowed to have more then 2 terms in 5 years. this goes for known and unknown alts. In turn the alliance as a whole should not be allowed to keep "electing" members to the board. This would create a beeter chance for a "CSM OF YOUR PEERS". Long story short CCP as a Corp the Corp that makes the game Should not allow "Employees" to play or communicate any changes or suggested changes to the game ahead of the offical devnotes. With programs like TS3 Vent.. etc Email blah blah alliances like goons spreading the "info they get from things like the CSM are easy to spread. Since these guys have 6 months or so to prepare, its no wonder they are always ahead of the curve.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#98 - 2012-05-07 23:28:56 UTC
Why do I feel like I've seen this thread before.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#99 - 2012-05-07 23:29:23 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Since CCP employee's can only have regular characters (unless using official, recognizable CCP accounts) and can not hold positions of power in any player organization, as well as being strictly monitored by IA, you have your wish.


It's not so much about them holding positions of power in 0.0 alliances, at least for me. The problem is, if they're only in 0.0 alliances, and hearing the opinions of 0.0 players, they end up being skewed in favor of them.

Time and time again we hear about dramatic changes coming to 0.0, which are backed out of, but dramatic changes are fairly common for hisec and lowsec. It certainly seems they're much more sensitive to the whines of 0.0 players than anyone else, and them being surrounded by 0.0 players would explain that.

What they should be doing is looking at the big picture, and doing what's best for the game in general. Not just trying to please their friends in 0.0.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#100 - 2012-05-07 23:33:35 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Since CCP employee's can only have regular characters (unless using official, recognizable CCP accounts) and can not hold positions of power in any player organization, as well as being strictly monitored by IA, you have your wish.


It's not so much about them holding positions of power in 0.0 alliances, at least for me. The problem is, if they're only in 0.0 alliances, and hearing the opinions of 0.0 players, they end up being skewed in favor of them.

Time and time again we hear about dramatic changes coming to 0.0, which are backed out of, but dramatic changes are fairly common for hisec and lowsec. It certainly seems they're much more sensitive to the whines of 0.0 players than anyone else, and them being surrounded by 0.0 players would explain that.

What they should be doing is looking at the big picture, and doing what's best for the game in general. Not just trying to please their friends in 0.0.


Part of the strict monitoring by IA also means that they aren't allowed under any circumstances to reveal that they are CCP employees.

So what is really wrong with a developer being a part of a 0.0 alliance? There are devs that are also in NPC corps. There are devs that pirate in lowsec. I'd imagine that there is a dev for just about any playstyle in eve, apart from scamming. I don't think they are allowed to do that.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]