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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#81 - 2012-05-02 15:53:55 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:

• Resistance shifting armor hardener (Armor Adaptive Hardener)

i must have missed the reasoning.. but why only armor?

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#82 - 2012-05-02 15:54:00 UTC
Kalaratiri wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
corestwo wrote:
Any news on moving items that are still missing from the market, to the market?

e: Also, I was just online and didn't see the charge consuming shield boosters. What gives?


No planned market changed at this time, and the changes aren't up yet - they will be on Sisi next time it's updated (later today)


Because I am an impatient bastard, any clues as to when 'later today' will be? :p


It's down at the moment. When it comes back up it will have the update.

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Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#83 - 2012-05-02 15:59:08 UTC
'yay'

TY for the quick response :)

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CCP RubberBAND
CCP Engineering Corp
#84 - 2012-05-02 15:59:36 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP RubberBAND
Cearain wrote:
Alexandra Alt wrote:
Marcus Foederatus wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
As promised, here are a list of the features that are going to Sisi this Wednesday afternoon. Most are still work in progress but please give your feedback in this thread and the teams will monitor it as best they can.

- Consequences for capturing systems/regions (benefits for you, grief for your enemy)



Care to elaborate?


Faction warfare panel of fanfest this year has all about it. I would advise to see it tbh has a lot of stuff.


That panel had allot of good ideas but it was pretty vague. I would like to hear a bit more detail on all the fw changes really.






Without going into exhaustive detail:
1. Cannot dock in stations that are in systems controlled by an enemy
- Example: Minmatar cannot dock in stations in a FW system controlled by the Amarr/Caldari
- You also cannot use station services if you docked before system flipped
- Ninja Edit: This does not affect neutrals

2. There are 5 levels of discounts for a number of different things - if you own the system and have upgraded it
- Medical clone discounts (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50% discount)
- Number of assembly lines increases by 1 for every level
- All broker fees discounted (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50%)
- NOTE: You only get these discounts in the FW system
- ADDENDUM: These discounts apply to neutrals not in FW

3. Militia store LP prices are affected by faction wide performance (discounts in increments of 10%)
- Note that Datacores have been split and moved in FW LP stores
- Pending implementation, LP gain increase for all ways in which LP can be gained in FW - FW Kills, FW Missions, Complexs etc

I do believe these are the most prominent consequences implemented/pending.

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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#85 - 2012-05-02 16:00:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
this drone damage thingy sucks balls!!
Means a stealth nerf to solo bombers since all bears will fit it on their ratting boats, it was already hard enough to tank bombers properly, now its gonna be almost impossible?

Dont introduce it.
Alternatively, boost bomber HP in order to compensate the drone changes.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#86 - 2012-05-02 16:05:16 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
this drone damage thingy sucks balls!!
Means a stealth nerf to solo bombers since all bears will fit it on their ratting boats, it was already hard enough to tank bombers properly, now its gonna be almost impossible?

Dont introduce it.
Alternatively, boost bomber HP in order to compensate the drone changes.


because stealth ships have always been known for their robust tankability.


Roll

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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#87 - 2012-05-02 16:08:20 UTC
CCP RubberBAND wrote:
Cearain wrote:
Alexandra Alt wrote:
Marcus Foederatus wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
As promised, here are a list of the features that are going to Sisi this Wednesday afternoon. Most are still work in progress but please give your feedback in this thread and the teams will monitor it as best they can.

- Consequences for capturing systems/regions (benefits for you, grief for your enemy)



Care to elaborate?


Faction warfare panel of fanfest this year has all about it. I would advise to see it tbh has a lot of stuff.


That panel had allot of good ideas but it was pretty vague. I would like to hear a bit more detail on all the fw changes really.






Without going into exhaustive detail:
1. Cannot dock in stations that are in systems controlled by an enemy
- Example: Minmatar cannot dock in stations in a FW system controlled by the Amarr/Caldari
- You also cannot use station services if you docked before system flipped
- Ninja Edit: This does not affect neutrals

2. There are 5 levels of discounts for a number of different things - if you own the system and have upgraded it
- Medical clone discounts (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50% discount)
- Number of assembly lines increases by 1 for every level
- All broker fees discounted (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50%)
- NOTE: You only get these discounts in the FW system
- ADDENDUM: These discounts apply to neutrals not in FW

3. Militia store LP prices are affected by faction wide performance (discounts in increments of 10%)
- Note that Datacores have been split and moved in FW LP stores
- Pending implementation, LP gain increase for all ways in which LP can be gained in FW - FW Kills, FW Missions, Complexs etc

I do believe these are the most prominent consequences implemented/pending.


That's low sec only right? just making sure, other than that I look forward to the changes : ) anything is better than the lack of updates for the past what... 2-3 years?

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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#88 - 2012-05-02 16:08:32 UTC
corestwo wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
this drone damage thingy sucks balls!!
Means a stealth nerf to solo bombers since all bears will fit it on their ratting boats, it was already hard enough to tank bombers properly, now its gonna be almost impossible?

Dont introduce it.
Alternatively, boost bomber HP in order to compensate the drone changes.


because stealth ships have always been known for their robust tankability.


Roll


it was at least possible to tank them against drones to some degree.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#89 - 2012-05-02 16:11:39 UTC
CCP RubberBAND wrote:
Cearain wrote:
Alexandra Alt wrote:
Marcus Foederatus wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
As promised, here are a list of the features that are going to Sisi this Wednesday afternoon. Most are still work in progress but please give your feedback in this thread and the teams will monitor it as best they can.

- Consequences for capturing systems/regions (benefits for you, grief for your enemy)



Care to elaborate?


Faction warfare panel of fanfest this year has all about it. I would advise to see it tbh has a lot of stuff.


That panel had allot of good ideas but it was pretty vague. I would like to hear a bit more detail on all the fw changes really.






Without going into exhaustive detail:
1. Cannot dock in stations that are in systems controlled by an enemy
- Example: Minmatar cannot dock in stations in a FW system controlled by the Amarr/Caldari
- You also cannot use station services if you docked before system flipped
- Ninja Edit: This does not affect neutrals

2. There are 5 levels of discounts for a number of different things - if you own the system and have upgraded it
- Medical clone discounts (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50% discount)
- Number of assembly lines increases by 1 for every level
- All broker fees discounted (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50%)
- NOTE: You only get these discounts in the FW system
- ADDENDUM: These discounts apply to neutrals not in FW

3. Militia store LP prices are affected by faction wide performance (discounts in increments of 10%)
- Note that Datacores have been split and moved in FW LP stores
- Pending implementation, LP gain increase for all ways in which LP can be gained in FW - FW Kills, FW Missions, Complexs etc

I do believe these are the most prominent consequences implemented/pending.



Excellent thank you very much for the info.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
CCP Paradox
#90 - 2012-05-02 16:12:01 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
this drone damage thingy sucks balls!!
Means a stealth nerf to solo bombers since all bears will fit it on their ratting boats, it was already hard enough to tank bombers properly, now its gonna be almost impossible?

Dont introduce it.
Alternatively, boost bomber HP in order to compensate the drone changes.


I like the part where you instantly judged something without ever trying it or presenting a good debate.

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Space Magician
Rara Yariza
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#91 - 2012-05-02 16:14:14 UTC
CCP RubberBAND wrote:


Without going into exhaustive detail:
1. Cannot dock in stations that are in systems controlled by an enemy
- Example: Minmatar cannot dock in stations in a FW system controlled by the Amarr/Caldari
- You also cannot use station services if you docked before system flipped
- Ninja Edit: This does not affect neutrals




Being unable to dock is a very poor mechanic, this isn't 0.0. If it isn't going to be changed then make it so players can't dock in the highsec stations of their opposing faction aswell. Only fair.
Jaden Soniel
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#92 - 2012-05-02 16:15:19 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
this drone damage thingy sucks balls!!
Means a stealth nerf to solo bombers since all bears will fit it on their ratting boats, it was already hard enough to tank bombers properly, now its gonna be almost impossible?

Dont introduce it.
Alternatively, boost bomber HP in order to compensate the drone changes.


I like the part where you instantly judged something without ever trying it or presenting a good debate.


That was a paradox statement
CCP RubberBAND
CCP Engineering Corp
#93 - 2012-05-02 16:16:05 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
That's low sec only right? just making sure, other than that I look forward to the changes : ) anything is better than the lack of updates for the past what... 2-3 years?


Correct. This only applies to the FW systems (I.e. they are all Low Sec systems, this will not extend to Empire or Nullsec). Certainly we realize that FW requires much love and we have some very nice work going on the UI front for FW that will make it into Inferno also. In addition we intend to keep working on improving FW post Inferno with the same dedication seen for this expansion.

Looking forward to the feedback.

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Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#94 - 2012-05-02 16:16:33 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
this drone damage thingy sucks balls!!
Means a stealth nerf to solo bombers since all bears will fit it on their ratting boats, it was already hard enough to tank bombers properly, now its gonna be almost impossible?

Dont introduce it.
Alternatively, boost bomber HP in order to compensate the drone changes.


I like the part where you instantly judged something without ever trying it or presenting a good debate.


Don't mind the naysayers, I'm highly interested in some love for drone users. Every other damage type can fit modules that boost their DPS performance, and it's time for drone boats to have the same option.

Cheers!
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#95 - 2012-05-02 16:17:32 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
this drone damage thingy sucks balls!!
Means a stealth nerf to solo bombers since all bears will fit it on their ratting boats, it was already hard enough to tank bombers properly, now its gonna be almost impossible?

Dont introduce it.
Alternatively, boost bomber HP in order to compensate the drone changes.


I like the part where you instantly judged something without ever trying it or presenting a good debate.


More damage is more damage which means I can't tank it which means my own personal niche playstyle is in danger due to this change and that JUST WILL NOT STAND WAAAAAAAAAAAH MOMMY WAAAAAAAAAAH


Roll

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fofofo
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#96 - 2012-05-02 16:17:48 UTC
Rara Yariza wrote:
CCP RubberBAND wrote:


Without going into exhaustive detail:
1. Cannot dock in stations that are in systems controlled by an enemy
- Example: Minmatar cannot dock in stations in a FW system controlled by the Amarr/Caldari
- You also cannot use station services if you docked before system flipped
- Ninja Edit: This does not affect neutrals




Being unable to dock is a very poor mechanic, this isn't 0.0. If it isn't going to be changed then make it so players can't dock in the highsec stations of their opposing faction aswell. Only fair.


FW area's are war zones, thus subject to (in effect) Martial Law. It's not that difficult to understand.

It's not like you would not be able to stage a system or two away.

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Malen Nenokal
HEX Reconnaissance and Reclamation
#97 - 2012-05-02 16:21:12 UTC
I'm in love with CCP again and looking forward to playing with the new toys! Pirate
MinutemanKirk
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#98 - 2012-05-02 16:24:13 UTC
CCP RubberBAND wrote:


Without going into exhaustive detail:
1. Cannot dock in stations that are in systems controlled by an enemy
- Ninja Edit: This does not affect neutrals

2. There are 5 levels of discounts for a number of different things - if you own the system and have upgraded it
- Medical clone discounts (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50% discount)
- Number of assembly lines increases by 1 for every level
- All broker fees discounted (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50%)
- NOTE: You only get these discounts in the FW system
- ADDENDUM: These discounts apply to neutrals not in FW



So... neutrals will reap all the benefits without having to actually spend LP OR fight for a particular militia OR having to worry about docking rights??? All this will do is entice alliances that can outblob FW corps move to our home (upgraded) systems and force us to stay docked all day (since they are living in low sec anyway). I might as well just have an alt corp run missions and upgrade systems and move our pilots out of the militia to reap the benefits without worrying about having to actually fight for the system.

I hope you have some as of yet unannounced bonuses or incentives for FW pilots (aside from the "increased" LP rewards) to actually STAY in FW and not just do the above mentioned. Otherwise, this isn't much of a FW "fix".
Jaden Soniel
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#99 - 2012-05-02 16:24:29 UTC
if i dont get my sisi fix soon, im going to gank some miners, CCP save the miners! i know you can do it
Ampoliros
Aperture Harmonics
#100 - 2012-05-02 16:24:51 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
this drone damage thingy sucks balls!!
Means a stealth nerf to solo bombers since all bears will fit it on their ratting boats, it was already hard enough to tank bombers properly, now its gonna be almost impossible?

Dont introduce it.
Alternatively, boost bomber HP in order to compensate the drone changes.


I like the part where you instantly judged something without ever trying it or presenting a good debate.


Is CCP Sreegs giving you guys lessons on being amazing at posting or something? That made me proud right there just a little bit, don't ever stop Cool