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New Dev Blog: Alliance Panel at Fanfest 2012: The Conclusion

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Diamonica Norya
Pro Synergy
#561 - 2012-03-29 00:26:16 UTC
goons and pets, unsub if you will, disband if you will, blow jita up if you will

The Mittani made a unacceptable mistake, he apologizes and takes the punishment accordingly. Why you all suddenly turned into QQ pubbies?

You guys are not making things looking better for him, you know how many potential Eve players are disgusted by this event? that's at least 10 folds of your meager 10058 votes.

I made 50+ votes for The Mittens alone and he wasted my votes, not CCP, if not for me he'd not get passed the 10k mark for this election.
Atomic Option
NO Tax FAT Stacks
#562 - 2012-03-29 00:26:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Atomic Option
The funny side to this is that CCP itself just guaranteed that "Kill yourself" will be the most common insult in the galaxy for the next six weeks.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#563 - 2012-03-29 00:27:19 UTC
DNSBLACK discussed entering Jove space, which is considered an exploit unless moved for the Alliance Tournament. I demand that this is investigated.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Flette
Rosen Association
#564 - 2012-03-29 00:27:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Flette
Townsend Harris wrote:
Flette wrote:
This needed to happen. If anything, this is a pretty light punishment.

First, and foremost, the action that lead to the punishment could be viewed as breaking the law in many countries in which CCP operates. Also, because this action was broadcast by CCP, the company becomes liable for that content. Those of you that enjoy Eve need to recognize this threat of potential legal action against CCP.

Secondly, the player in question resigned of his own free will as near as I can tell, so you can't really blame CCP for that.


First- It only matters for where it was says I doubt any country claims its cyber bully laws have universal jurisdiction.
Second, not resignation but booting from CSM entirely.



I'm no lawyer, but it may also matter where the victim is.
Li Ter
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#565 - 2012-03-29 00:27:29 UTC
Banderlei Shiiba wrote:
Wait, so you admit that you DID vet the presentations? Meaning it was perfectly fine for him to make fun of a suicidal player? And then lied to the press about it?

WELL PLAYED CCP WELL PLAYED


it was after the presentations that his comments were made.......well done
Urenna Naari
Chocobo Industries
#566 - 2012-03-29 00:28:47 UTC
Hisec will burn.
Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#567 - 2012-03-29 00:28:53 UTC
Andski wrote:
DNSBLACK discussed entering Jove space, which is considered an exploit unless moved for the Alliance Tournament. I demand that this is investigated.

close your eyes and it will happen

Goon Tears are best tears, because they're 25% alcohol by volume!
Radelix Cisko
JUMP DRIVE ACTIVE
#568 - 2012-03-29 00:30:03 UTC
Bumrush wrote:



No there does not, if you vote for a president in RL and they do something wrong and leave or get kicked out they do not do a re-vote, the person under him steps up


In the US the Vice President takes the sitting presidents place should s/he resign and a new VP gets picked from the cabinet or somesuch. No revote since the logistics would be a nightmare here.

Despite my posting prowess I really am terrible at this game
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#569 - 2012-03-29 00:30:28 UTC
Andski wrote:
John Maynard Keynes wrote:
Andski wrote:
10,058 paying customers totally ignored and disenfranchised. Good work, CCP.


U mad?


oh look another worthless npc alt

So u still mad?
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#570 - 2012-03-29 00:30:56 UTC
Townsend Harris wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Townsend Harris wrote:
Darker Domain wrote:
CCP this is the most unintelligent maneuver you've done yet, a monkey would have made this retaliatory action fairer than you.

70 dollar monocles was dumber than this, but not by much.


Tell me that isn't you Alex?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80nW6AOhTs
I'm getting a lot of mileage out of this youtube clip


As am I reporting you for personal abuse each time.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Li Ter
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#571 - 2012-03-29 00:31:10 UTC
Revii Lagoon wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
One person shooting at the monument in Jita.

Jeez, come on Goonies you can do better than that.


Shooting the monument is for pubbies, we are going to make Jita burn. They will need to put up a monument for the massive amount of wrecks that will blot out the gates and the undock of 4-4



butthurt much? talk to the mittani about your wasted votes....he wasted them, not us, not ccp
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#572 - 2012-03-29 00:31:24 UTC
Rebecca Aventine wrote:
I didn't envy Alex or CCP when this broke.

I respect Alex a great deal for making his apology, but regretably this was always the most realistic outcome.


What makes this bad is that CCP yanked the CSM's chain. They sent one message to the CSM and then quite another entirely as their official position. The fallout wouldn't be nearly so bad without that misstep.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Townsend Harris
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#573 - 2012-03-29 00:32:17 UTC
Taihbea wrote:
Goons are like little kids that go nuts when they see a lolipop.
Then they demand more and more and then they cry the **** out when they are put in place with the rest.

You guys are the biggest whiney bunch of sissies I have ever seen.

All your "bad ass" look is now just a LMAO subject.

Go camp rats on belts buahaha

please see threads on nerfing mission loot drops, titian nerfs, super nerfs, suicide ganking nerfs, requests to punish people wo participate in hulkageddon etc.
SolusLunes
LEGITIMATE SCIENTIFIC CORPORATION
#574 - 2012-03-29 00:32:28 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Spitfire
Please refrain from personal attacks. Spitfire
FalconX Blast
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#575 - 2012-03-29 00:32:50 UTC
Is this the first time an out-of-game slight has been bridged into being a violation of a software license agreement? That is an interesting precedent in itself, that CCP is going to police all of our thoughts and words from out-of-game now... time to update point 5 on the TOS, something like "Yes, we CCP are responsible for actions taken by our subscribers that occur outside the jurisdiction of our game servers or web site." would be more accurate with these recent actions CCP is taking.
Townsend Harris
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#576 - 2012-03-29 00:32:54 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Townsend Harris wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Townsend Harris wrote:
Darker Domain wrote:
CCP this is the most unintelligent maneuver you've done yet, a monkey would have made this retaliatory action fairer than you.

70 dollar monocles was dumber than this, but not by much.


Tell me that isn't you Alex?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80nW6AOhTs
I'm getting a lot of mileage out of this youtube clip


As am I reporting you for personal abuse each time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80nW6AOhTs
Jane?
Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#577 - 2012-03-29 00:33:14 UTC
Li Ter wrote:
Revii Lagoon wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
One person shooting at the monument in Jita.

Jeez, come on Goonies you can do better than that.


Shooting the monument is for pubbies, we are going to make Jita burn. They will need to put up a monument for the massive amount of wrecks that will blot out the gates and the undock of 4-4



butthurt much? talk to the mittani about your wasted votes....he wasted them, not us, not ccp



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wasted

oh the irony

Goon Tears are best tears, because they're 25% alcohol by volume!
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#578 - 2012-03-29 00:33:14 UTC
Andski wrote:
The only appropriate solution is to either leave Mittani on the council or start a new election. Disenfranchising a vocal group of players with 10,058 - 20% of the voting base - accounts between them is never, ever acceptable.

We could simply start a vote wether people want Mittani to get banned from CSM 7 or not.
Valkyria Caeli
Doomheim
#579 - 2012-03-29 00:33:50 UTC
Bumrush wrote:
Vatek wrote:
Schettino wrote:
All those crying about the 10k vote loss.

The player has been banned and is out of the game -> LOSS OF REPRESENTATION.

PERIOD


Blame the player himself and NOT CCP.


Sorry, no. There needs to be a system in place so that people who voted for candidates who either resign or are removed are still represented. Mittani's actions do not speak for the 10,058 people that voted for him.



No there does not, if you vote for a president in RL and they do something wrong and leave or get kicked out they do not do a re-vote, the person under him steps up


Precisely, this is why a vice president is chosen with a president in the US and this is also why alternates are chosen alongside the members of the CSM. It is called having a backup plan. Working as intended.
Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#580 - 2012-03-29 00:33:58 UTC
John Maynard Keynes wrote:
Andski wrote:
The only appropriate solution is to either leave Mittani on the council or start a new election. Disenfranchising a vocal group of players with 10,058 - 20% of the voting base - accounts between them is never, ever acceptable.

We could simply start a vote wether people want Mittani to get banned from CSM 7 or not.


sure ..

Goon Tears are best tears, because they're 25% alcohol by volume!