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Buying Skill Points

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Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-04-15 05:28:37 UTC
Malcanis' Law: Anything that is implimented to benifit new players, will always by abused by the veterans

MMOs come and go, but Eve remains.  -Garresh-

Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-04-15 05:55:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Kusum Fawn
Kestrix wrote:
When I buy a character I'm not paying for your time I'm paying for your skill points... by your logic a character thats been training for five years should be worth more than one thats been training for four years... Only the person who's been training for 5 years never bought a single implant and so has been overtaken skillpoints wise by the four year old character. Wait whats that??? the character thats been training for less time selling for more becasue it has more skill points???? simply can't happen because it's the months spent loading skills into the queue that counts.


some people are better at loading skills into a character then others, and thus you are paying for the time spent, you pay more for time better spent

sp are gained through time, choices that you make (or are forced to make) change how well these sp are gained and/or lost. part of the cost of a character is time spent rather then time compressed through cash. throwing money at everything isn't always the answer. sometimes you just have to work with the situation because the alternatives (like this one) are worse.

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.

Quade Warren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-04-16 03:31:08 UTC
Kestrix wrote:
Oh I know it's been discussed before. It just means the right solution has not been found yet. It does not mean this is a bad concept. Which in my mind suggests that we should keep trying to find the right solution. Simply blanking out a topic because it's been suggested before is wrong.


It's really the exploitable part.

Think about it like this: My friend started an account back in '03 during the beta, but he lost interest in the game. His account is still technically capable of being activated. So I talk to him about transferring the character to me.

I purchase the character from him, then I spend the extra cash to suddenly have a 9 year character that appears to have been training the whole time. It may cost me $200, but that's better than spending nine years on a new character.

This is the exploitable part. As much as that might seem fair, it boils down to this: I have just used real life currency to gain an unfair advantage in the game that is not equal to all players. It's just another form of golden ammo.
Neoimus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-04-16 06:25:36 UTC
An idea proposed, and repeatedly shot down for obvious reason. No reason to build something that the majority of players dont support. Waste of real world money and time for CCP. Its a doomed idea to be flamed to death or locked by a forum admin.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#25 - 2012-04-16 09:57:45 UTC
No, for all the reason stated before.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Alexandra Alt
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-04-16 10:50:03 UTC
Wait wait wait, let me think this up......

No.
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
#27 - 2012-04-16 13:59:13 UTC
It's a matter of attrition ruining the game. If CCP was to say yes to "cash for sp" then the same people would whine, whinge, shout and scream till they got cash for "gold" ammo, cash for ships and cash for isk.

There has been a display of what happens when CCP are even perceived as heading in that direction from the reaction to it. If you missed it I suggest you research it.

Whilst you might think that it's perfectly ok for you to buy sp because you WANT to that doesn't necessarily make it right for the game. It just makes you self-centred and short-sighted.

Scream, shout, demand, whine all you like but it simply won't happen. The potential reprecussions of CCP changing the game to pay to win have already been demonstrated to be detrimental at best and suicidal at worst as far as their income is concerned.

EvE is a very special game. It requires a massive amount of patience, perseverance and contains highs and lows that I, nor anyone I know, has found in any other computer game. No other game allows the breadth or depth of experience that EvE does. Diluting it to serve the short-sighted wants of the few who can't see past their own desires would be an absolute travesty.

If you ever played starwars galaxies (or heard of it) you'll know what happens when a games company panders to the screaming minority. The game withers and dies. Thank all the various gods that CCP aren't as braindead as SOE otherwise they might listen to people like you.



NOTE: You might say "I wouldn't whine for all those other things" but you're exactly the type of person who would. The type who is unable to see things from any perspective other than his own selfish one. You might say that cash for ships and cash for cash are already available in the game but you're wrong. There is cash for time, as in you can buy a plex and sell it to another player who wants it and has spent the time gathering the isk. The plex has no intrinsic value other than the value placed on it by the players. The same can be said of the character bizarre. You can't sell a character unless someone else wants it and that character has been "played" for it's lifetime (as in, it has had a lifetime). It's COMPLETELY different to what you're proposing.
The Hamilton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-04-16 18:17:14 UTC
You know what I love. CCP are making skill training LONGER with the destroyers and battle cruisers not shorter. It's like a big slap in the face"NO" to all these repetitive "my idea is different" buying skill point threads.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#29 - 2012-04-16 18:44:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
CCP rarely shoots down ideas.

This is one of them and thier stance is final.

No.

It was no 9 years ago, it was no today and its going to be no 9 years from now.

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Quade Warren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-04-16 18:52:07 UTC
The Hamilton wrote:
You know what I love. CCP are making skill training LONGER with the destroyers and battle cruisers not shorter. It's like a big slap in the face"NO" to all these repetitive "my idea is different" buying skill point threads.


I wonder if this is their answer to high sec gankers using trial accounts?
Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#31 - 2012-04-16 18:54:17 UTC
I love how this sort of idea still gets 2 pages of naysaying.

If everyone didn't feel the need to express their butthurt over the mere suggestion I never would have seen the OP.

*bump* Evil

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