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New Dev Blog: Alliance Panel at Fanfest 2012: The Conclusion

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Myz Toyou
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#401 - 2012-03-28 23:46:33 UTC
Kilylol wrote:
CCP didn't want my subscription anyway.


Your T1 stuff, can I have it ?
Craystorm
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#402 - 2012-03-28 23:46:50 UTC
~ 10,058 ~
Townsend Harris
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#403 - 2012-03-28 23:46:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Townsend Harris
Arrs Grazznic wrote:
Rather interesting to see that those against this decision are goons and pets. Ignore those partisan postings and the general consensus is 'well done CCP'.

So...if we ignore the vast majority of posters, your side is right?
That said if we ignore the large amounts of anti-Nazi's, Hitler was right. You sir are literally Hitler.
EDIT: DAT WORD FILTER!
May O'Neez
Flying Blacksmiths
#404 - 2012-03-28 23:46:53 UTC
Quote:
Hey Moron, Plex doesn't appear out of nowhere, someone, somewhere pays for it.


You've got a point, my bad. But I stay polite :) I did'nt want to offend anyone.
Still I'd be curious of the ratio generated / paid / etc, but it's kinda out of context. My background remark was mainly: CSM voting system is not an actual image of the player base.

Quote:
If PLEX had no monetary value CCP wouldn't be making money selling them.


They don't do it for money, they do it to fight against RMT ...
Bumrush
The Excommunicated
#405 - 2012-03-28 23:46:58 UTC
This is a business for CCP, they can do what they want. They made the CSM and will always have final control of it.If you don't like the way CCP runs it business then leave. If you do can i have your stuff.
k'ryn
Doomheim
#406 - 2012-03-28 23:47:00 UTC
Muad 'dib wrote:
If he said all this before running for CSM would he have had 10,000 votes?

You bet your horrible fat ass he wouldn't have.


You're right, he'd have closer to 20, 000
Rebnok
Dependable Delinquents
Fraternity.
#407 - 2012-03-28 23:47:36 UTC
Stephen Haags wrote:
Andski wrote:
Krutoj, a CSM 6 alternate who was temp-banned for RMT, was not removed from the council.


This!

you are stupid,( In game) and well tbfh rl also, but they don't temp ban for rmt
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#408 - 2012-03-28 23:47:53 UTC


When you think about it this really was a decision about who makes the decisions and calls the shots on Eve Online management and press relations: CCP Iceland or Something Awful forums. CCP made the right choice.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

SolusLunes
LEGITIMATE SCIENTIFIC CORPORATION
#409 - 2012-03-28 23:47:53 UTC
Lakshata Chawla wrote:
At this rate, all the goons will unsub, This is the best decision CCP has ever made.

I still wish Mittani could stay on CSM, he WAS a productive member.


Unsub? With all your tears yet unharvested? Never, sir, never! We'll just make YOU quit.
Ines Fy
#410 - 2012-03-28 23:48:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Ines Fy
CCP Navigator wrote:
Following the Alliance Panel at Fanfest 2012, an incident was broadcast live on air by a panelist during the Q&A which broke the EVE Online EULA/TOS. The panelist was a member of the CSM who has subsequently resigned from CSM6 and, as a result, will resign his seat on CSM7. GM Salmon, VP of Customer Relations, provides more detail in this blog.


You are all idiots, you just thrown gasoline into a fire that was almost out...

How bunch of ungratefull bastards you all are. The guy pratically saved CCP from falling into a clift last summer, he went to the emergency summit to save your asses and calm down all the eve players that were at your door step with forks and torches ready to burn that **** to the ground... and this is how you say thanks?!

Everything you did since last summer that gain me over to this game after I unsub, just went down the garbage... to me CCP is now with the same popularity pos incarna...
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#411 - 2012-03-28 23:48:04 UTC
Lt Pizi wrote:
AFAIK accounts that have action against em are not allowed for CSM


Krutoj made no secret about his temp ban for RMT which did _not_ lead to his removal from the CSM.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Richmond Kings
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#412 - 2012-03-28 23:48:18 UTC
Despite everything that has happened, the comments that were made were over the line. However, CCP still profited from the stream. After inviting people, giving them alcohol to provide content, they made money from the comments about a clearly depressed person.

Where are the calls for resitution him? CCP seemed to have just glanced over this. They are too concerned with making cash, rather than the feelings and well being of the person the comments were aimed at.

CCP should donate all proceeds they made from this complete shambles to him, so he can get help he needs. You can't condemn these actions, then turn around and count all the money you made from it. This isn't the action of a concerned company, it's the actions of disgraceful human beings.
Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#413 - 2012-03-28 23:48:19 UTC
Lakshata Chawla wrote:
At this rate, all the goons will unsub, This is the best decision CCP has ever made.

I still wish Mittani could stay on CSM, he WAS a productive member.


By your own (very good by the way) advice... HTFU!

Goon Tears are best tears, because they're 25% alcohol by volume!

Akelorian
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
#414 - 2012-03-28 23:48:21 UTC
The tears! They are delicious! OMG 10k votes gone to waste? yes wasted on voting for The Mittani anyways, he did this to himself and has forfeited his position in csm 7, so in reality your votes were wasted by him and him alone, you casted your vote, it counted, till he was dissqualified from said position for breaking the eula.
Wolfduke
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#415 - 2012-03-28 23:48:27 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Spitfire
Please refrain from personal attacks. Spitfire
Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#416 - 2012-03-28 23:48:41 UTC
Been reading through about 14 pages of this,

And to me it seems some people are more worried about losing their little power base in the CSM than anything.

If that is all the CSM really means to people then you might as well just get rid of it.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#417 - 2012-03-28 23:48:58 UTC
Rebnok wrote:
you are stupid,( In game) and well tbfh rl also, but they don't temp ban for rmt


Ask Krutoj about that.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Grogoth Drem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#418 - 2012-03-28 23:49:03 UTC
Andski wrote:
The only appropriate solution is to either leave Mittani on the council or start a new election. Disenfranchising a vocal group of players with 10,058 - 20% of the voting base - accounts between them is never, ever acceptable.


you mis-typed 3% of subscribers

it is your own dumb fault for not vote splitting and EASILLY getting 3 csm spots

(in game)
Nirnaeth Ornoediad
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#419 - 2012-03-28 23:49:44 UTC
OninoTimmo wrote:
:popcorn:

keep it coming, goonNOOBS, i've almost reached climax


Sexual harassment is against the EULA. Please stop posting this material.

Fix POSes.  Every player should want one (even if all players can't have one).

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#420 - 2012-03-28 23:49:46 UTC
Hulemand wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
CCP,

Can you confirm you were also holding everyone who just happened to be on camera at fanfest accountable to the TOS/EULA? Family members / spouses who don't play the game .. the press .. ?

I am struggling to see how you can possibly think your terms of service apply to what someone says out of game, on camera when it is YOU and your providers who choice what is broadcast and when.

There is absolutely NO legal precedent for it.


What legal precedence do they need? None!


Yeah, because that line works well when a lawsuit lands.

Stop trying to think, you're in Raiden.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,