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I might agree with you if this had to do with the CSM, but it doesn't so the "absolute minimum" he needed to do was apologize, if he personally felt responsible to do so. If he had said every word he said in Jita local to an audience of 1500+, no one would have blinked an eye about it. In the end this was The Mittani saying something about The Wiz (or whatever his name is) with regards to EVE at an EVE event. He didn't find and give everyone his real name and address, he didn't mail him anthrax, he didn't even say "Good, kill yourself." The panel show was how people react to our actions in game. You can try to say he's a representative of the player base, but that doesn't mean that he needs to have infinite love and respect for what people say over the internet. (For the non-goons in the audience, he's the third person in recent memory that mentioned self-harm after losing their assets. We hear it often enough by people who want stuff back from scams/want sympathy for losses.) In American politics you do not need to love and agree with the religious right to run as a left-leaning democrat.

What we are seeing is people who despise goons writing the most eloquent posts they have in years trying to close the deal with his stepping down, while goons and allies ask, "What does it have to do with the politics of EVE?" and independent-minded people (including most of the CSM who actually know him) saying, "You can (and sometimes say should) apologize, but don't step down because you've brought good changes about."

Can someone quote the EULA and clearly explain what he broke and how he broke it.
While you are at it, be sure to not quote something out of context.

(Apparently people take a rather wide view of CCP licensed software. Either way, can you imagine the decline in users if we petitioned everything that everyone said to us in EVE that would violate that EULA. People get mad and say things that, in most cases, would, if petitioned, result in the person being ganked being banned.)

Quite frankly, I still do not see a huge problem. No one should be immune to ridicule and contempt for their actions in EVE, nor for their attempt to bring their own ****** life into EVE. In every post scam/gank conversation you have in EVE, you will usually assume that someone is lying for pity or to make you feel bad.

No one should change their playstyle for a whiny player who cannot deal with the harshness that is EVE. Not even the CEO of the biggest group of griefers and assholes (no offence intended, EVE would be a much worse and more boring place if you were not) in EVE. Remember the hats issue. You were hearing The Mittani, CEO of Goonswarm, not the (current) CSM chair, nor the future CSM member.

Aside from the potential for Sony to distance itself from CCP and this incident giving the US government more incentive to go on their crusade to label games as bad and violent (as if that makes a ******* difference in any way, shape, or form to sales; just look and what age people play M-rated games), I almost see this as any press = good press. Hell, this may attract some more real assholes to the game, and, lets face it, EVE has thrived on that phenomena.

I now ask all suicide gankers and griefers to be sure to petition any threats, libel (untrue things said about one's mother, for instance), indications of incoming suicide, and harsh language that results from the incoming destruction of Jita. Don't just destroy their ships, destroy their EVE careers.

Your stuff can I has ?

I am also watching p°rn in my local.

edit: WTF is that, word censoring? You have gone far deep.

I'm looking forward to goon Jita riots.

I recommend Sobaseki 1 jump over as the temp hub

Krutoj, a CSM 6 alternate who was temp-banned for RMT, was not removed from the council.

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