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[Live Event] Invitation to the Arek'Jaalan Project

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#61 - 2012-04-01 16:01:41 UTC
Jowen Datloran wrote:
The effort thing... sort of a core issue. The number of potential willing participants to a live event is always great, except when effort from their behalf enters the picture. Most have, after all, enough work to be done in real life already

Headfirst's Sansha events before Incursion were brilliant as they easily included people due to, frankly said, the simple minded goal they laid out; here are the Sansha, destroy them. Some people added spice to the mix by trying to side with the Sansha and the event(s) went pretty well

Arek'Jaalan on the other hand has difficulties explaining the people that want to participate what they should really do. There is nothing to shoot and no immediate rewards to be had. As one who has left real life academia behind I found it as a great opportunity to practice "fictional science", but for somebody with no such experience it seems getting into the topic is hard

Site One was a great event though, again because of the simple and straight forward goal and accessibility. The two w-space incidents were pretty bad as they ended up being effort made for a single person/group only and highly exclusive. To make matters worse, not much was really gained from the project point of view, as in the first instance the involved player was more concerned about killboard whoring and did not find it weird at all to find multiple completely stationary cov-ops frigates. In the second case the player was a w-space alt intended to scan out wormholes in case of access being lost and therefore incapable of engaging a single Sleeper drone and explore a rather tempting spatial rift

The danger CCP Goliath is taking on here, is that of effort; if not careful he might end up having to do a lot of effort to make events with simple goals to draw in a big crowd or he can continue to keep the project more mental demanding with less effort on his behalf, which on one hand encourages a few players to be very productive but has difficulties appealing to the masses

I wonder if doing Live Events count as company work.Straight



Indeed having an actual storyline around which to base live events, as the incident with the abandoned bombers is concerned, is a perfect example of why this is such a tricky endeavor.

If an abandoned Jovian ship full of storyline popped up, someone would destroy it "just to see something go boom" without any connection to the game beyond that, or thinking, etc. It's rather painful. Imagine civilization collapsing and a scientist managing to invent a warp drive before dying, and then someone digs up the journal 100 years later and uses it for toilet paper - that's (potentially) EvE with the mix of the kind of people we have around here.

So next time they deliver some content, they have to be really careful about it. They probably just stuck those bombers in the wormhole system and that's that. Then look what happened. To do stuff like that, they need to have people actually watching who is doing what in the game in real time and then strategically place the content.

That may require way more work and time then they are ready to invest.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
#62 - 2012-04-01 21:26:33 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

Indeed having an actual storyline around which to base live events, as the incident with the abandoned bombers is concerned, is a perfect example of why this is such a tricky endeavor.

If an abandoned Jovian ship full of storyline popped up, someone would destroy it "just to see something go boom" without any connection to the game beyond that, or thinking, etc. It's rather painful. Imagine civilization collapsing and a scientist managing to invent a warp drive before dying, and then someone digs up the journal 100 years later and uses it for toilet paper - that's (potentially) EvE with the mix of the kind of people we have around here.

So next time they deliver some content, they have to be really careful about it. They probably just stuck those bombers in the wormhole system and that's that. Then look what happened. To do stuff like that, they need to have people actually watching who is doing what in the game in real time and then strategically place the content.

That may require way more work and time then they are ready to invest.


A RL example of this is the Archimedes Palimpsest, however as that example show, it shouldn't always lead to their permanent loss.
Justice Comes
Doomheim
#63 - 2012-04-03 01:20:16 UTC
Holy crap, 95 pages of... oh wait, not enough drama here :p

Most annoying thing of the week: You failed to dock/jump because you are cloaked (in your Deep Space Transport).
External Factors
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2012-04-03 02:08:46 UTC
damn. dropbear is gone? fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu He had so much interesting **** to unravel.

He could do his work from down under.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#65 - 2012-04-05 10:17:51 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
Yup, but I am sure other capable CCP Devs will raise Arek'Jaalan to next level!
Llyandrian
Livestock Science Exchange
#66 - 2012-04-09 11:46:55 UTC

We can hope.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#67 - 2012-05-14 17:10:11 UTC
Do not forget that there are still notable capsuleers working hard to churn out reports!
Medarr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2012-05-14 18:36:27 UTC
Cant wait for more live events, I loved tormenting slave heavenbound01 ;-))
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2012-05-15 09:26:55 UTC
Medarr wrote:
Cant wait for more live events, I loved tormenting slave heavenbound01 ;-))


Yup I have faith that CCP will introduce more Live Events upon the full implementation of the Inferno Expansion!
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#70 - 2012-05-15 12:27:58 UTC
Shouldn't this topic be in Events&gatherings?
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2012-05-16 01:01:41 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Shouldn't this topic be in Events&gatherings?



No? Because this is a general-broad topic on live event hosted initially by CCP?
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#72 - 2012-07-01 05:49:08 UTC
Do not despair!

Lets keep up the good work and one day, Hilen Tukoss will return.
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#73 - 2012-07-01 06:32:03 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
Do not despair!

Lets keep up the good work and one day, Hilen Tukoss will return.


Or he got lost in a wormhole and Eifyr hires a replacement.. something..
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#74 - 2012-07-01 07:16:29 UTC
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
The Antiquarian wrote:
Do not despair!

Lets keep up the good work and one day, Hilen Tukoss will return.


Or he got lost in a wormhole and Eifyr hires a replacement.. something..


At this point, I would be happy with ANY replacements as long as they are sponsored by CCP.
Tykari
The Observatory
#75 - 2012-07-08 14:14:36 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
The Antiquarian wrote:
Do not despair!

Lets keep up the good work and one day, Hilen Tukoss will return.


Or he got lost in a wormhole and Eifyr hires a replacement.. something..


At this point, I would be happy with ANY replacements as long as they are sponsored by CCP.


Amen to that, it's been far too long since the last events. It's a real shame how it all suddenly died out.

In this dark void we are like brilliant stars, holding within us both the creative and destructive power to bring a new dawn upon worlds or plunge them into eternal darkness.
Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
#76 - 2012-07-08 14:24:51 UTC
Elysium (Constellation) part of the Angel Cartel and former home of the Jove.

Quote:
Once we were mighty,
Stars bent to our will,
Our reach was infinite,
Our power incontestable,
With outstretched hands we tried,
To touch the face of perfection,
But we came too close,
To that which is not due mortals,
And our punishment is our curse,
Our endless sorrow.
- Translation of an old Jovian poem


Elysium ruled by Cronus the immortal descendants of Gaia .
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#77 - 2012-07-10 08:47:47 UTC
Tykari wrote:


Amen to that, it's been far too long since the last events. It's a real shame how it all suddenly died out.


You are right. It involved so many pilots with so much potential.
Tykari
The Observatory
#78 - 2012-07-10 11:29:48 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
Tykari wrote:


Amen to that, it's been far too long since the last events. It's a real shame how it all suddenly died out.


You are right. It involved so many pilots with so much potential.


That potential is still there, I get the feeling a lot of people are just waiting eagerly for something new to happen. Most just seem a little lost as to what they can do right now.

In this dark void we are like brilliant stars, holding within us both the creative and destructive power to bring a new dawn upon worlds or plunge them into eternal darkness.
ISD Stensson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2012-07-10 16:00:28 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Stensson
Thread moved back from In-Game Events and Gatherings to EVE General Discussion forum. Enjoy your stay in GD.

[b]ISD Stensson Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department[/b]
Gaia Ma'chello
Photosynth
#80 - 2012-07-12 00:50:04 UTC
Wyke Mossari wrote:
Elysium (Constellation) part of the Angel Cartel and former home of the Jove.

Quote:
Once we were mighty,
Stars bent to our will,
Our reach was infinite,
Our power incontestable,
With outstretched hands we tried,
To touch the face of perfection,
But we came too close,
To that which is not due mortals,
And our punishment is our curse,
Our endless sorrow.
- Translation of an old Jovian poem


Elysium ruled by Cronus the immortal descendants of Gaia .


Huh?