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Sreegs! The bots are back. :(
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David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-03-20 14:29:02 UTC
looks like this might be a good time for a hulkageddon event to celebrate 10 years of bots in eve online.

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mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#22 - 2012-03-20 14:45:28 UTC
:/

This is why I'm a proponent of perma-bans for botters.
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#23 - 2012-03-20 14:55:29 UTC
mechtech wrote:
:/

This is why I'm a proponent of perma-bans for botters.


I'm not certain, but I think the more serious botters use programs that read the game's memory. That's tampering with the client and that's a 'first strike and you're out' kind of offense.

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Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#24 - 2012-03-20 15:03:32 UTC
Blaster boats burn bots, buy blaster Brutix!

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Verocity
8 Virtues
#25 - 2012-03-20 18:03:26 UTC
CatreX Nolen wrote:
Gank em. that's what I'll do the day I find those bastards around my home.


Unfortunately by the time I get home from work, they are gone along with most of the ore in system. (US TZ) The removal of mining and market bots has really made the game more enjoyable for me as I never realized this is how it SHOULD be. This should be a weekly effort - not an annual one.
TuonelanOrja
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-03-22 03:30:32 UTC
Thanks God if they are back.

Not a veteran, just bitter..
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-03-22 03:37:27 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
They are indeed back.



Yes, they are smarter and have a plan. Make more isk thanks to you. Congratulate yourself son. yey
Aranakas
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-03-22 03:44:29 UTC
Dyniss wrote:
Botters giving you problems? Gank them problem solved


This is a horrible, horrible idea. These are multi-billion isk operations. Suiciding in high-sec would hurt you more than them. They make billions a day and replacing the odd barge is pennies.

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TuonelanOrja
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-03-22 03:47:14 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
They are indeed back.



Yes, they are smarter and have a plan. Make more isk thanks to you. Congratulate yourself son. yey

Meat's back on the menu, boys!

Not a veteran, just bitter..
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-03-22 03:55:16 UTC
TuonelanOrja wrote:
Tanya Powers wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
They are indeed back.



Yes, they are smarter and have a plan. Make more isk thanks to you. Congratulate yourself son. yey

Meat's back on the menu, boys!


Mom's proud of you, good boy Lol

Now bring me some mackinaws salvage and I'll give you another destroyer.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#31 - 2012-03-22 03:59:31 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Zagdul wrote:
Tobiaz wrote:
Whenever Sreegs starts swinging the banhammer, all botters scurry away and hide in the crevices. Good chance that these specific miners weren't banned, but just were waiting to see on their little botting-forums what CCP's next step was. And now they think they are safe, they are back.

I've got people who read EVE News 24 and they tell me there hasn't been an 'all clear' post yet.

For realz. Bet Riverini wishes he never had a thing to do with that 'how-to'-guide posing as a 'what to look out for'-guide to botting.

I'm really lazy but want to see this famous guide which I believe was removed him the site.

Is it actually a proper guide, or is it about as accurate as reports of our continual cascading?

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TuonelanOrja
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-03-22 04:00:21 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
TuonelanOrja wrote:
Tanya Powers wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
They are indeed back.



Yes, they are smarter and have a plan. Make more isk thanks to you. Congratulate yourself son. yey

Meat's back on the menu, boys!


Mom's proud of you, good boy Lol

Now bring me some mackinaws salvage and I'll give you another destroyer.

Can I have a hug?

Not a veteran, just bitter..
TuonelanOrja
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-03-22 04:02:47 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Zagdul wrote:
Tobiaz wrote:
Whenever Sreegs starts swinging the banhammer, all botters scurry away and hide in the crevices. Good chance that these specific miners weren't banned, but just were waiting to see on their little botting-forums what CCP's next step was. And now they think they are safe, they are back.

I've got people who read EVE News 24 and they tell me there hasn't been an 'all clear' post yet.

For realz. Bet Riverini wishes he never had a thing to do with that 'how-to'-guide posing as a 'what to look out for'-guide to botting.

I'm really lazy but want to see this famous guide which I believe was removed him the site.

Is it actually a proper guide, or is it about as accurate as reports of our continual cascading?

Shh, there is a good change that Riverini is mentally disabledSad

Not a veteran, just bitter..
Zleon Leigh
#34 - 2012-03-22 04:43:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Zleon Leigh
MadMuppet wrote:
Well it will be an interesting test of response times. If CCP is slow enough in responding it will still be a potentially viable method of earning isk in the game. So long as the response times is greater than the training time plus operations cost recuperation time plus minimum desired profits earned time, it is going to keep going on.

Two months to train a Hulk, plus the ship. Just over 1.5 billion isk in hardware and PLEX. If the bot can make 100+ mil isk a day it would need about two weeks of 'getting away with it' to pay for itself before becoming profitable. That would be your 'minimum first response time'. A two week ban would add another 500mil loss for another PLEX, but that would only require 4-5 days to recoup, so there is your 'second response time'. Coming out of the second ban (another PLEX of 500mil) you again need to respond in 4-5 days or they make a profit again. The ban hammer then falls on the account.

So they need to keep it within a 22 days tracking window to burn them down to no profit, more or less.


Excellent analysis. +1

Of course you made the case for a new bot. The old ones got away with this for a long time so the botter's are funded for months ahead and will keep coming back under new accounts.

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Brittany Harpoon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-03-22 05:57:11 UTC
Quote:
Excellent analysis. +1

Of course you made the case for a new bot. The old ones got away with this for a long time so the botter's are funded for months ahead and will keep coming back under new accounts.


Yep a friend of mine bots, 2 weeks of mining paid for the initial investment on 10 accounts. Then by the end of second month mining he had aquired isk to buy from the character bazzar a second 10 man team.

Over 6 months he aquired another 2 * 10 man teams. 4 teams of 10 in total

He had half the characters in is his first team suspended of the 2 weeks. He took a holiday and is back botting with a 0.0 alliance, all it costs him is a few dollars a month to be a member of a certain website and supply of enough minerals to build 1 battlecruiser per character per month. he currently mines for 8 hours with the team. When thing quiet down he is going to use 3 teams and rotate them mining for 8 hours each

He owns a titan and several supercaps
Vetorept Fera
Doomheim
#36 - 2012-03-22 06:26:03 UTC
Brittany Harpoon wrote:
Quote:
Excellent analysis. +1

Of course you made the case for a new bot. The old ones got away with this for a long time so the botter's are funded for months ahead and will keep coming back under new accounts.


Yep a friend of mine bots, 2 weeks of mining paid for the initial investment on 10 accounts. Then by the end of second month mining he had aquired isk to buy from the character bazzar a second 10 man team.

Over 6 months he aquired another 2 * 10 man teams. 4 teams of 10 in total

He had half the characters in is his first team suspended of the 2 weeks. He took a holiday and is back botting with a 0.0 alliance, all it costs him is a few dollars a month to be a member of a certain website and supply of enough minerals to build 1 battlecruiser per character per month. he currently mines for 8 hours with the team. When thing quiet down he is going to use 3 teams and rotate them mining for 8 hours each

He owns a titan and several supercaps


Name and shame.

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Severian Carnifex
#37 - 2012-03-22 06:47:16 UTC
Prices of minerals continually went up until threads like this started to show on forum few says ago, now prices started to continually go down... SadRoll

Its obvious. Sad
Prices only went up because botts banning and fear of the rest of botters who didnt bott for some time. What?

We clearly see how EVE is infested. CryCryCry
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#38 - 2012-03-22 06:52:57 UTC
Mineral prices are going down because they went up.

Mineral prices went up, someone spread the word that mining was valuable again, bunch of folks got into mining, no one bothered to check the market before pointing lasers at rocks.

Heck, I saw one group specifically targeting Scordite in fields full of Pyroxeres. Some people just don't get it.

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DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#39 - 2012-03-22 06:53:45 UTC
Next year might have a fanfest so there is a good chance you'll see the 2nd bot banning wave then.
Tai pei
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-03-22 09:34:59 UTC
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