Ships & Modules

and yet you still made this post.

holy **** i missed this post

clearly we can't permit you to judge what kind of shoes you can wear in the morning

so this **** is important to you ?

ahahahaha you censored your own post what a tool

These titan fixes aren't actually the final balance. CCP has been adjusting Titans and super caps since the start of the Crucible patch, with iterative patches based on testing, both internal, and open player tests on Singularity. I also presume they watch statistics on what's going on in EVE to determine their balance.

Crucible brought the removable of the ability to DD sub caps, the immunity of super caps to friendly EWAR as well as enemy EWAR (Remote Sensor Boosters and Tracking Links), as well as the removal of their Drone bay, as a start of CCP's attempt to bring them into the anti-capital, rather than anti-everything role. There was also a mild EHP nerf to attempt to adjust Titan survivability.

So far, these changes have done nothing to the ability of massed Titans to dominate all sub capital fleets. This is CCP's next step in fixing that problem. Perhaps if titans were not used to destroy after burning Rifters, this would not be going on, but as it stands, this is simply one step in CCP's iterative design process.

change it, nothing is holy is it.

Oh lord, why has this thread degenerated into some sort of :BLOOOOOOBS: discussion...

No ship in eve should stop a large fleet on its tracks, get over it and stop being ********. No ship in a game should be even designed as such because all it would do is people who like to push boundaries to simply gather as many of them as possible into an unstopable force.

That's not good for the game. Titans are overpowered when used in large numbers because they scale exponentially better than any other ship in this game.

Yes, they cost a lot of isk and require a lot of SP -- but that's not an excuse for them to be massively overpowered when used in numbers.

Now -- I *do* believe that something fundemental needs to be done in this game to combat the ever escalating numbers used in combat and that applies to ANY type of ship. I sincerely believe the time of the sandbox has come to an end in some respects, and we not only need a diminishing returns system for damage applied and we need to have shield/armor transfered from logistics ships applied with similar diminishing returns.

But people... A thread about Titans is not the place to have this discussion.

I once swore (3.5years ago or so, someone eve-search the post) that I would ABUSE the AOE DD to its greatest extend until it got changed. And it did. I'm fairly sure I said ~8 months ago on another site I'd do the same with tracking titans, and I believe that we have.

I'm happy therefore the ship is getting attention, but I am very disapointed we STILL lack the FINAL solution to bring this "end game" ship to a role which is UNIQUE, USEFUL for the alliance/corp/gang as a whole and WORTHY of investing a lot of money, time and effort for getting into.

Reducing tracking/increasing locking will solve nothing. Only a change out of the combat role completely will do this. It''s NOT ENOUGH to tweak it.

Hopefully CCP will look at the 100+ pages of discussion generated and realize this IS a ship which is important, and it IS important to bring it to a proper, well thoughtout change in role with the effort and resources devoded to it which match those of the pilors who aspire to fly them.

Oh god the tears in this thread, so delicious. (Even though a 50% nerf isn't really all that serious and in TiDi with sensible targeting order, with *GASP* communication and/or fitting appropriately even the target delay can be worked around; but Raiden. gonna keep up the crying.)

Also, theorycraft time, Titans working as actual stations would give them a pretty good end-game role and monstrous combat asset; Ability to redock and spit out ships forever, with clones waking up at the titan? (Which is how the clone vat bay system probably should have worked but :CCP:). Committing a Titan to a front-line instantly escalates a battle. (Please ignore this terrible theorycraft and overall bad post)

Well said. I agree completely.

This is kinda what I would like to see titans do. Coupled with a staging pos you can get a decent beachhead into enemy territory.