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GoonWaffe

Goonswarm Federation

Likes received: 4

#1901 - 2012-03-14 21:10:32 UTC

Sofia Wolf wrote:

Is CCP willing to reimburse titan owners for years of SP and ISK lost, or will just let them quit game in frustration? I know it is not that many accounts but I don't think CCP at this moment can afford to lose any.

Why should they reimburse anything? The ship is still there, the skills are still useful, you can still target and shoot things. no one is stopping you from flying your titan. I didnt get heavy drone skills back when they removed them from myrmadons, I didnt get cruise missile skills back when they removed them from stealth bombers. I didnt get drone skills or isk for drones back when they removed them from supercarriers...

On another note, they just banned, what was it 2000 accounts for botting? how do you think 800 or so titan accounts would make a difference? Maybe if titan pilots had been more responsible with their power, they would still be able to hit the tiny things they shoot at.

FOl2TY8

Federal Navy Academy

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 116

#1902 - 2012-03-14 21:13:57 UTC

supr3m3justic3 wrote:

niishke wrote:

supr3m3justic3 wrote:

The Mittani wrote:

Watch as the Titan apologist tries to deflect blame away from himself. Nerf tech, he says - yet we all agree. Anything, anything to get the topic away from how the Titan pilots brought this nerf on themselves through their own blatant misbehavior.

I have always supported a tech rebalance. This is not news.

Maybe we should limit the amount of pilots than can be involed in a fleet fight, then watch as the cries shift from Cap pilots to bloated alliances.

You mean that thing where a fleet is capped at 256 members? Yeah I think they should implement that too.

No i mean , make it to where some one cant bring 600 drakes to a fight intended for 50 cap ships.

Like an instanced server?

Histocomp

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 7

#1903 - 2012-03-14 21:15:27 UTC

Adjusting titans isn't something CCP has decided to do out of the blue. First CCP chose to address Supercarriers (i.e. drone changes, etc) and the logoffski mechanic. Dreads were also boosted at the same time to try and provide better mechanics of taking these monsters down. Now, CCP has done what every always asks them to do: check back in on what they change. Titans are now being adjusted, which is just another iteration to fix a problem which CCP clearly has their eye on, supercapital proliferation and blobbing. This change seems like a great start to me, and helps put the emphasis back onto subcaps.

Oh, and cry some more about getting your SP and ISK reimbursed Lol

Kerensky White

K-EDEN

Winger Aerospace

Likes received: 62

#1904 - 2012-03-14 21:17:11 UTC

Believe it or not, ultimately, what we want, is every single ship to count. Every single ship should count. From the lowliest frigate to the loftiest supercap. It has a place. It has a chance to shine. Artillery platforms, blaster boats, drone ships and missle siege, all useful for their roles. Cloakers, tacklers, electronics warfare and logistics, crucial to your success. Carriers both super and non, dreadnaughts and titans, all have a role to fill.

No pilot is left behind. No skillpoint is ever wasted. PVP. PVE.

Just wait. We will make it happen.

Then we reset TEST.

Weaselior

GoonWaffe

Goonswarm Federation

Likes received: 7,457

#1905 - 2012-03-14 21:17:17 UTC

lroh wrote:

Thank you CCP, now i don't have to play for 4 years to eventualy get the skills to fly a SC/Titan and get to the "end game" stage.
Now i only have to train for Carrier and be done quicker to go play the next mmo

you don't really get eve you should probably go back to WoW

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Kyle Myr

Brutor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 321

#1906 - 2012-03-14 21:17:27 UTC

FeLiZk wrote:

The Mittani wrote:

Then push it at the same time, king Mittani.

Show some ******* impartiality.

It's like you don't want to see what's going on, and only want to deflect the issue: Mittani raised this issue repeatedly in his widely publicized debate with Riverini for CSM 7 under two weeks ago. He spotlighted it as one of the critical issues impacting son warfare in 0.0, along with super capitals, which prevent small alliances from breaking in to the 0.0 game.


Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 7,457	#1907 - 2012-03-14 21:18:45 UTC 12 i do wish to echo my raiden. friends call for an ability to reprocess titans, however implement a Capital Ship Disassembly Array, allow titans to be melted down to scrap, so raiden. can reprocess all their titans in a rage Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.


Kerensky White K-EDEN Winger Aerospace Likes received: 62	#1908 - 2012-03-14 21:21:30 UTC 2 lroh wrote: Thank you CCP, now i don't have to play for 4 years to eventualy get the skills to fly a SC/Titan and get to the "end game" stage. Now i only have to train for Carrier and be done quicker to go play the next mmo There is no endgame in a sandbox.

Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 15
niishke Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 15	#1909 - 2012-03-14 21:21:45 UTC I can't wait to see how titan-heavy alliances perform without their huge space buttplugs to bail them out all the time.

FeLiZk

Loot Industries

Likes received: 1

#1910 - 2012-03-14 21:22:10 UTC

Kyle Myr wrote:

FeLiZk wrote:

The Mittani wrote:

Then push it at the same time, king Mittani.

Show some ******* impartiality.

So show me the post pushing this before the next big patch.

Darth Tickles

Doomheim

Likes received: 694

#1911 - 2012-03-14 21:22:17 UTC

If grinding (or botting/rmting of course, but we'll ignore that lovely aspect of the supercap arms race) towards the biggest ship in the game is your "endgame", then you're just going to quit once you've blapped fools for a few months anyway. Then you'll start moaning for a superdeeduper capital to really show how special you are.

I'm sorry that an entire virtual galaxy of possibilities and opportunities isn't enough to keep you interested, and you need to climb some self-defined ladder of ship power.


Darth Tickles Doomheim Likes received: 694	#1912 - 2012-03-14 21:24:07 UTC 1 FeLiZk wrote: So show me the post pushing this before the next big patch. Dude, stop. You got owned. Tech nerf and titan nerf have gone hand in hand, and have had equal focus. You look like a total jerkoff right now.

Weaselior

GoonWaffe

Goonswarm Federation

Likes received: 7,457

#1913 - 2012-03-14 21:24:25 UTC

FeLiZk wrote:

So show me the post pushing this before the next big patch.

there's thousands

literally

goonswarm has been open about how much tech needs a nerf for a long time, the issue is that idiots like yourself do not understand the complexity of fixing moon minerals so they stop bottlenecking

basically the reason tech is what it is is because someone like you tried to nerf prom/dysp

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.


Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 7,457	#1914 - 2012-03-14 21:24:54 UTC 9 raiden.: terrible at eve, terrible at posting, terrible at reading Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Kyle Myr

Brutor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 321

#1915 - 2012-03-14 21:26:11 UTC

FeLiZk wrote:

Kyle Myr wrote:

FeLiZk wrote:

The Mittani wrote:

Then push it at the same time, king Mittani.

Show some ******* impartiality.

So show me the post pushing this before the next big patch.

Sure, here you go: http://soundcloud.com/csmdebate/eve-radio-csm-debate-mittani

There's a transcript that one of our deaf members paid one of our newbies to make, but as it's Goonfleet material, leaking it to you would be violating opsec. You'll just need to wait until after your current fleet to be able to listen to it, but I feel this communicates what Mittani's role in the CSM is: clearly communicating about sucking chest wounds in EVE to CCP.

niishke

Sebiestor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 15

#1916 - 2012-03-14 21:28:03 UTC

FeLiZk wrote:

Kyle Myr wrote:

FeLiZk wrote:

The Mittani wrote:

Then push it at the same time, king Mittani.

Show some ******* impartiality.

So show me the post pushing this before the next big patch.

The last time CCP rebalanced moons they cocked it up. They're going to need more than a few months to get it right.


FeLiZk Loot Industries Likes received: 1	#1917 - 2012-03-14 21:28:41 UTC So you can make a crap fix for titans, but not for something as vital as Tech. And I will be the judge of when someone comes with a good augment.


Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 7,457	#1918 - 2012-03-14 21:29:25 UTC 5 FeLiZk wrote: So you can make a crap fix for titans, but not for something as vital as Tech. And I will be the judge of when someone comes with a good augment. wrong idiot Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.


Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 7,457	#1919 - 2012-03-14 21:30:43 UTC 5 things raiden. doesn't understand, volume mmmccclxxxi: what a bottlenecking system is and the impossibility of fixing it just by tweaking a few numbers Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.


Kerensky White K-EDEN Winger Aerospace Likes received: 62	#1920 - 2012-03-14 21:30:45 UTC 3 FeLiZk wrote: So you can make a crap fix for titans, but not for something as vital as Tech. And I will be the judge of when someone comes with a good augment. So far your judgement seems pretty poor. Why don't you give us a good argument.

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