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Incoming titan adjustments

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Tector
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1661 - 2012-03-14 17:49:31 UTC
Doctor Eezee wrote:
asdf ghyj wrote:
Dear CCP if do this nerf then gief back to all pilots titan skills cuz we spend 5 bil for skill and 100 bils = for titan and wasting like 3 month + for make skill AND NOW WE CANT USE THIS SHIP cuz this MITANI not have skill and isk to take titan

MR MITANI go play PREPELIX ONLINE and stop cry to CCP cuz u guys (goon) cant fly titans

OR MAKE SERVER FOR GOONS AND LET US PLAY FAIR
And CCp what prefer to have 6-7k players( goons) or 60k players ??????
Think before do wrong changes



This may literally be the worst post in the history of this forum. If you ever want to switch corps, you should apply to WI, they are always on the lookout for bad posters.


Yeah, but not THAT bad. That guy is so dumb and blinded by rage that it's a wonder he could fly a titan in the first place.
Archinquisitor
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1662 - 2012-03-14 17:50:09 UTC
Remember the bombing of the Amarr monument?
Again, it is time to show CCP that too much is too much!
Every unhappy titan owner gather tomorrow at 20:00 eve time in VFK.
Public fleets will be open, cynos will be provided, support not needed.
Officer fittings allowed, but due to large interest please not more than 10 titans
at a time in system. We will prove to CCP how underpowered they are right now.
Doctor Eezee
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1663 - 2012-03-14 17:50:33 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
asdf ghyj wrote:
Dear CCP if do this nerf then gief back to all pilots titan skills cuz we spend 5 bil for skill and 100 bils = for titan and wasting like 3 month + for make skill AND NOW WE CANT USE THIS SHIP cuz this MITANI not have skill and isk to take titan

MR MITANI go play PREPELIX ONLINE and stop cry to CCP cuz u guys (goon) cant fly titans

OR MAKE SERVER FOR GOONS AND LET US PLAY FAIR
And CCp what prefer to have 6-7k players( goons) or 60k players ??????
Think before do wrong changes


I fly an Erebus, and have one of the largest Titan fleets in the galaxy.

The hard fact is that the fault lies with the people who used Titans to annihilate subcaps en masse, and then had the poor judgement to laugh about it, congratulate themselves, and keep doing it. If RDN, NCdot and PL hadn't gone whole-hog abusing an obviously broken mechanic, this nerf would have never happened.

They may tell themselves that the inarguable imbalance of blapping titans was a sign of their 'skill' or 'superiority' - the same excuses offered forth throughout the history of the Titan, justifying Remote Doomsdays, AoE Doomsdays, etc etc. The same old guard players, the same old guard excuses, the same old-guard entitlement.

Ultimately, the nemesis of titans was the poor impulse control of their own pilots - the inability, when faced with what amounted to a free bar, not to drink themselves into blundering violence and to assault the other guests.


QFT

"My rule is: If you meet the weakest vessel, attack; if it is a vessel equal to yours, attack; and if it is stronger than yours, also attack..." - Admiral Stepan O. Makarov

Venus Vermillion
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1664 - 2012-03-14 17:50:37 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
asdf ghyj wrote:
Dear CCP if do this nerf then gief back to all pilots titan skills cuz we spend 5 bil for skill and 100 bils = for titan and wasting like 3 month + for make skill AND NOW WE CANT USE THIS SHIP cuz this MITANI not have skill and isk to take titan

MR MITANI go play PREPELIX ONLINE and stop cry to CCP cuz u guys (goon) cant fly titans

OR MAKE SERVER FOR GOONS AND LET US PLAY FAIR
And CCp what prefer to have 6-7k players( goons) or 60k players ??????
Think before do wrong changes


I fly an Erebus, and have one of the largest Titan fleets in the galaxy.

The hard fact is that the fault lies with the people who used Titans to annihilate subcaps en masse, and then had the poor judgement to laugh about it, congratulate themselves, and keep doing it. If RDN, NCdot and PL hadn't gone whole-hog abusing an obviously broken mechanic, this nerf would have never happened.

They may tell themselves that the inarguable imbalance of blapping titans was a sign of their 'skill' or 'superiority' - the same excuses offered forth throughout the history of the Titan, justifying Remote Doomsdays, AoE Doomsdays, etc etc. The same old guard players, the same old guard excuses, the same old-guard entitlement.

Ultimately, the nemesis of titans was the poor impulse control of their own pilots - the inability, when faced with what amounted to a free bar, not to drink themselves into blundering violence and to assault the other guests.

The Groundskeeper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1665 - 2012-03-14 17:51:13 UTC  |  Edited by: The Groundskeeper
I see the concern of those who complain about titans being "anti-blob" weapons but the problem you have is that of course CCP will favour the larger group in the long run. Whether through subs or through the proxy of plexes, every player pays them money to play. You're asking them to provide tools with which less subscribers can make more subscribers unhappy.

Goons go out there and actively sell the game of Eve Online to their friends on the SA boards. We are CCP's willing and adoring shills. Since my last recruitment post went up on the SA forums we have gone from 2,500 to 3,500 Goonwaffe members, with old people returning as we tell them how the game is on the right path, and new ones being drawn in by the enthusiastic commentary of people posting in the thread in the downtimes between bouts of pointing and laughing at Ordo Garr. That's already the equivalent of 1/3 of all titan pilots cancelling their subs and walking away by itself. Allowing for churn, it's probably just over a hundred grand a year from extra subs (of which I see exactly zip :D)

According to Turbefield's stats a far smaller 10% increase across the CFC alone would replace the subscriptions of every titan pilot, both subbed and unsubbed, should they walk away and unsub forever. According to the figures cited by Jogyn then that same 10% increase across the CFC would pay for the cancelled subs of every single member of PL and NCdot put together. Woops!

The days when Eve was a hobby or a social experiment of its devs, or when they would change the game consciously to favour their playstyle or that of their friends, are gone. They want the person with 3 million skillpoints to be able to be hooked on the nullsec Great Game that keeps people playing for years, to get dragged into the storyline. And they know that that is virtually impossible when those players discover that their ship matters zilch as soon as 40 titans cyno in with a bunch of supercarriers to rep them.

PL, NcDot and a few others don't want newbies, and that's cool. But it means you're not speaking to those two-week-old new players and you're not exposed to the Naked Lunch moment when they work out that they can do everything right, orbit the primary at the right range, stay out of smartbomb range on the primary, watch for yellow-boxing, broadcast for reps as soon as a lock is applied, and yet still absolutely inevitably die as soon as one single person just presses one button.

But we do talk to those people and we bring in a tidal flood of them to enliven the game and provide content and fund the development of new features and CCP are finally working out that if four or five hundred dudes, most of whom will in any case be burned out within 15 months, want to bleat about large "blobs" of paying customers having more fun than them then it's still going to be sayonara titans in the long run.
Bashe Zor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1666 - 2012-03-14 17:51:54 UTC
I-win buttons are horrible game-design. Glad this one will be gone.
Audix
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1667 - 2012-03-14 17:53:32 UTC
Archinquisitor wrote:
Remember the bombing of the Amarr monument?
Again, it is time to show CCP that too much is too much!
Every unhappy titan owner gather tomorrow at 20:00 eve time in VFK.
Public fleets will be open, cynos will be provided, support not needed.
Officer fittings allowed, but due to large interest please not more than 10 titans
at a time in system. We will prove to CCP how underpowered they are right now.


Get over it, Titans needed a nerf for reason, stop crying and sell your titan
Frothgar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1668 - 2012-03-14 17:53:34 UTC
I have to say, CCP seems to be really clever when looking at this. Everyone would agree it was beyond question that the XL guns/Siege/tracking mechanic was rather borked. I have to admit, I'm surprised at the reduction in lockable targets and scan res.

It was rather creative, and I'm somewhat surprised that CCP seems to have thought of it first before the player base proposed it en mass ;)

I'm really pleased with our spaceships focused CCP.

For people saying it will just promote blobbing, honestly I doubt it. Titans basically killed the battleship fleet, as well as the mixed capital fleet, and the dreadnaught fleet. It needed to happen.

Also BS are probably the best balanced ship class in the game with respect to roles and how they interact with other ship types. They're highly vulnerable to bombers as well as support ships. I'm not really worried about a 1000man BS gang taking over all of eve, when a 20 man bomber gang can make their life a living hell.
Dabigredboat
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#1669 - 2012-03-14 17:54:17 UTC
The Mittani wrote:


I fly an Erebus, and have one of the largest Titan fleets in the galaxy.

The hard fact is that the fault lies with the people who used Titans to annihilate subcaps en masse, and then had the poor judgement to laugh about it, congratulate themselves, and keep doing it. If RDN, NCdot and PL hadn't gone whole-hog abusing an obviously broken mechanic, this nerf would have never happened.

They may tell themselves that the inarguable imbalance of blapping titans was a sign of their 'skill' or 'superiority' - the same excuses offered forth throughout the history of the Titan, justifying Remote Doomsdays, AoE Doomsdays, etc etc. The same old guard players, the same old guard excuses, the same old-guard entitlement.

Ultimately, the nemesis of titans was the poor impulse control of their own pilots - the inability, when faced with what amounted to a free bar, not to drink themselves into blundering violence and to assault the other guests.


I am Dabigredboat and I fly a leviathan. I agree with the mittani :3:
Doctor Eezee
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1670 - 2012-03-14 17:54:28 UTC
Audix wrote:
Archinquisitor wrote:
Remember the bombing of the Amarr monument?
Again, it is time to show CCP that too much is too much!
Every unhappy titan owner gather tomorrow at 20:00 eve time in VFK.
Public fleets will be open, cynos will be provided, support not needed.
Officer fittings allowed, but due to large interest please not more than 10 titans
at a time in system. We will prove to CCP how underpowered they are right now.


Get over it, Titans needed a nerf for reason, stop crying and sell your titan



Read that post again.

"My rule is: If you meet the weakest vessel, attack; if it is a vessel equal to yours, attack; and if it is stronger than yours, also attack..." - Admiral Stepan O. Makarov

Kcolor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1671 - 2012-03-14 17:54:57 UTC
How can there ever be a drought in any country after all these tears?
Crias Taylor
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1672 - 2012-03-14 17:55:03 UTC
Tector wrote:
Doctor Eezee wrote:
asdf ghyj wrote:
Dear CCP if do this nerf then gief back to all pilots titan skills cuz we spend 5 bil for skill and 100 bils = for titan and wasting like 3 month + for make skill AND NOW WE CANT USE THIS SHIP cuz this MITANI not have skill and isk to take titan 

MR MITANI  go play PREPELIX ONLINE and stop cry to CCP cuz u guys (goon) cant fly titans 

OR MAKE SERVER FOR GOONS AND LET US PLAY FAIR
And CCp what prefer to have 6-7k players( goons) or 60k players ??????
Think before do wrong changes



This may literally be the worst post in the history of this forum.  If you ever want to switch corps, you should apply to WI, they are always on the lookout for bad posters.


Yeah, but not THAT bad. That guy is so dumb and blinded by rage that it's a wonder he could fly a titan in the first place.

It is almost like if you piled enough retards in a Titan blob any idiot is untouchable in said Titan. 
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1673 - 2012-03-14 17:56:12 UTC
Audix wrote:
Archinquisitor wrote:
Remember the bombing of the Amarr monument?
Again, it is time to show CCP that too much is too much!
Every unhappy titan owner gather tomorrow at 20:00 eve time in VFK.
Public fleets will be open, cynos will be provided, support not needed.
Officer fittings allowed, but due to large interest please not more than 10 titans
at a time in system. We will prove to CCP how underpowered they are right now.


Get over it, Titans needed a nerf for reason, stop crying and sell your titan


The fail in your answer, it is huge. A lot you have to learn, young padawan.
Tector
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1674 - 2012-03-14 17:57:38 UTC
Titans aren't the only anti-blob weapons out there, though to listen to the shrill cries of titan pilots deprived of their shiny toys you'd never know it. Skillfully deployed bombers can do terrible things to a massed fleet, particularly one grouped to allow for logi support.

Though abstract concepts like "skill" may be beyond the comprehension of a class of people who felt that sitting in a fleet composed of near-unkillable ships was ultimate expression of PVP in the game.
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1675 - 2012-03-14 17:57:44 UTC
Dabigredboat wrote:
The Mittani wrote:


I fly an Erebus, and have one of the largest Titan fleets in the galaxy.

The hard fact is that the fault lies with the people who used Titans to annihilate subcaps en masse, and then had the poor judgement to laugh about it, congratulate themselves, and keep doing it. If RDN, NCdot and PL hadn't gone whole-hog abusing an obviously broken mechanic, this nerf would have never happened.

They may tell themselves that the inarguable imbalance of blapping titans was a sign of their 'skill' or 'superiority' - the same excuses offered forth throughout the history of the Titan, justifying Remote Doomsdays, AoE Doomsdays, etc etc. The same old guard players, the same old guard excuses, the same old-guard entitlement.

Ultimately, the nemesis of titans was the poor impulse control of their own pilots - the inability, when faced with what amounted to a free bar, not to drink themselves into blundering violence and to assault the other guests.


I am Dabigredboat and I fly a leviathan. I agree with the mittani :3:


How that thing can stay alive for more then a few weeks in your hands is beyond me.
Jathan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1676 - 2012-03-14 17:57:48 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
asdf ghyj wrote:
Dear CCP if do this nerf then gief back to all pilots titan skills cuz we spend 5 bil for skill and 100 bils = for titan and wasting like 3 month + for make skill AND NOW WE CANT USE THIS SHIP cuz this MITANI not have skill and isk to take titan

MR MITANI go play PREPELIX ONLINE and stop cry to CCP cuz u guys (goon) cant fly titans

OR MAKE SERVER FOR GOONS AND LET US PLAY FAIR
And CCp what prefer to have 6-7k players( goons) or 60k players ??????
Think before do wrong changes


I fly an Erebus, and have one of the largest Titan fleets in the galaxy.

The hard fact is that the fault lies with the people who used Titans to annihilate subcaps en masse, and then had the poor judgement to laugh about it, congratulate themselves, and keep doing it. If RDN, NCdot and PL hadn't gone whole-hog abusing an obviously broken mechanic, this nerf would have never happened.

They may tell themselves that the inarguable imbalance of blapping titans was a sign of their 'skill' or 'superiority' - the same excuses offered forth throughout the history of the Titan, justifying Remote Doomsdays, AoE Doomsdays, etc etc. The same old guard players, the same old guard excuses, the same old-guard entitlement.

Ultimately, the nemesis of titans was the poor impulse control of their own pilots - the inability, when faced with what amounted to a free bar, not to drink themselves into blundering violence and to assault the other guests.

deyaneira
#1677 - 2012-03-14 17:58:08 UTC
TO ALL:

An here i had the imprssion that i AM the drama queen. This is much fun keep it coming.

PS.. Stop the nerf and fixes to how big words are and fix the damm game already.

I aprove this thread!
Calmoto
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1678 - 2012-03-14 17:58:16 UTC
I love how our dear chairman keeps reminding these people thats its their own fault

priceless
Audix
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1679 - 2012-03-14 17:58:21 UTC
QQ titan nerf QQ Lol
Blawrf McTaggart
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1680 - 2012-03-14 17:59:03 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
asdf ghyj wrote:
Dear CCP if do this nerf then gief back to all pilots titan skills cuz we spend 5 bil for skill and 100 bils = for titan and wasting like 3 month + for make skill AND NOW WE CANT USE THIS SHIP cuz this MITANI not have skill and isk to take titan

MR MITANI go play PREPELIX ONLINE and stop cry to CCP cuz u guys (goon) cant fly titans

OR MAKE SERVER FOR GOONS AND LET US PLAY FAIR
And CCp what prefer to have 6-7k players( goons) or 60k players ??????
Think before do wrong changes


I fly an Erebus, and have one of the largest Titan fleets in the galaxy.

The hard fact is that the fault lies with the people who used Titans to annihilate subcaps en masse, and then had the poor judgement to laugh about it, congratulate themselves, and keep doing it. If RDN, NCdot and PL hadn't gone whole-hog abusing an obviously broken mechanic, this nerf would have never happened.

They may tell themselves that the inarguable imbalance of blapping titans was a sign of their 'skill' or 'superiority' - the same excuses offered forth throughout the history of the Titan, justifying Remote Doomsdays, AoE Doomsdays, etc etc. The same old guard players, the same old guard excuses, the same old-guard entitlement.

Ultimately, the nemesis of titans was the poor impulse control of their own pilots - the inability, when faced with what amounted to a free bar, not to drink themselves into blundering violence and to assault the other guests.