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Mage Khour
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#461 - 2012-03-13 18:51:09 UTC
Sadly but true. But i dont see myself fit into EVE ONLINE anymore, CCP keeps nurfing, nurfing and nurfing.

4 accounts now canceled...

CCP wins, gl with destroying the game !

Perpetuum here i come
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#462 - 2012-03-13 18:52:05 UTC
Mage Khour wrote:
Sadly but true. But i dont see myself fit into EVE ONLINE anymore, CCP keeps nurfing, nurfing and nurfing.

4 accounts now canceled...

CCP wins, gl with destroying the game !

Perpetuum here i come





lol
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#463 - 2012-03-13 18:52:47 UTC
malet wrote:
CCP YOU SHORT SIGHTED F***KWITTS

Its no wonder with mittani on the CSM, Lets make the F****G game name Goons Online

Way to go to shaft the old players yet again. First you screw super carriers, now ttians yet again.

Poke you poxy game where the sun doesnt shine,. you dont give a flying f**k about your old player base anyomre.



Avada Kedavra

 Though All Men Do Despise Us
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#464 - 2012-03-13 18:53:15 UTC
Mage Khour wrote:
Sadly but true. But i dont see myself fit into EVE ONLINE anymore, CCP keeps nurfing, nurfing and nurfing.

4 accounts now canceled...

CCP wins, gl with destroying the game !

Perpetuum here i come





ahahahaha get owned

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Lili Lu
#465 - 2012-03-13 18:53:37 UTC
Pheusia wrote:
Lili Lu wrote:
Ok. You've performed an amputation and bandaged one class of problem ships. Would be nice if you had been more surgical about it. And your field remedy as you admit will cause some more damage necessitating later surgery.

However, the Drake, Tengu, and heavy missile and large arty alpha problems are still there in game.

Why the relatively impulsive hack saw for titans and still no fix the later? Where, particularly for the Drake, the problem has festered so long past the original injury it no longer just smells bad but now is toxic to the entire body. Please saw away at the Drake. Come on CCP you know you want to see the veritable ocean of tears. I do Twisted

Shocked

Complaining about drakes is so 2010. There are plenty of viable counters to every subcap doctrine, even tengu fleets, and its dishonest to pretend otherwise.

This Titan rebalance is long overdue and will make sov null a better place.

Malc, where did I not agree that the titan nerf is good? Also, you know I've been singing death to all supercaps along with goons for quite a while. But you also know I've been bitching about the Drake just as long if not longer. Are you so sure that nerfing one and not the other is ok for the game?

As for 2010, here is a link of which I'm sure you are aware, http://eve-kill.net/?a=top20
And that is March of 2012-
#1 Drake 165k, #2 Maelstrom 75k, #3 Hurricane 51k, Abaddon 43k, Tornado 32k, Tengu 31k
Heavy Missile Launcher II 75k, 425mm AutoCannon II 20k, 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II 15k

This pattern has remained very consistent over the last few years. And it's not just because goons fly those ships. It seems that Drakes and heavy missiles are not just 2010 and that viable counters are not a deterrent to their remarkable majority use for pvp.

Btw, I do miss the INIT ship fittings and fleet discussions. But then, Euro tz, and probably not wanting me back lest I politely at first call someone a ****** for suggesting smartbombing Logis to combat heavy missiles. It's not easy finding a US tz alliance and corp where chat is not filled with rabid ignorant racist Obama hating Ugh

Andski wrote:
we literally would not shed a tear if alpha was nerfed

I personally have no love for alpha doctrines - they're mind-numbingly boring and uninteresting.

Thank you. Yes let us all join hands together and sign like the chorus in whoville for CCP to not just stop at nerfing Titans. If something is getting overused, chances are it needs a trim.

CCP is so bad at this though - trimming. They move glacially. As in no perceivable movement until next thing you know they've calved a monster berg that thunderously crashes into the formerly undisturbed bay of ship balancing. Smaller more frequent calving would be a better strategy. But until then, CCP I'm waiting for a huge heavy Ice shelf to land on Drakes and heavy missiles. It will be just as glorious as the one you are letting loose on titans.Big smile
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
#466 - 2012-03-13 18:54:10 UTC
malet wrote:
CCP YOU SHORT SIGHTED F***KWITTS

Its no wonder with mittani on the CSM, Lets make the F****G game name Goons Online

Way to go to shaft the old players yet again. First you screw super carriers, now ttians yet again.

Poke you poxy game where the sun doesnt shine,. you dont give a flying f**k about your old player base anyomre.


why so flustered -- you guys should be in no danger as you have hired the elite players of The InitiativeDOT to be your meat shield, surely with their presence you can bring well-rounded support fleets and handle this change in stride

http://badops.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9770

... oh

these guys sure are worth the whole one technetium moon you're paying them
Archer Slate
Perkone
Caldari State
#467 - 2012-03-13 18:54:45 UTC
Love this nerf!!

Give them 10 scanres or something.
FawKa
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#468 - 2012-03-13 18:55:02 UTC
FawKa wrote:
Can I have a graph showing how many subs you've lost today CCP? You like graphs so much these days :)


Wooow, people wen't crazy over that one..

Fyi: I am buying a titan since people are going firesale crazy haha

aaand, Raiden. was never ment to have space (some just forgot), so I'm good ^^
Kynaz Furia
Parsec Consortium
#469 - 2012-03-13 18:55:22 UTC
That's a lot of changes. Maybe too much.

A "simple" nerf would have been to remove the ability to fit tracking/optimal modules on a titan.

No more tracking computers/enhancers, titans are still powerful machines against capitals, all races are now almost equal (shield tanking being not compatible with tracking computers), and no change is needed for the scan res, as titans can no longer hit moving subcapitals, or so few that they are no longer relevant.

AllowTrackingMod=0
AllowOptimalMod=0

"Due to the size of the ship, all modules that modify tracking and/or optimal are inneficient, and cannot be fitted"
Innominate
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#470 - 2012-03-13 18:55:55 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Innominate wrote:
Ra Death wrote:

Dreads are mainly antistructure. Yes, they certainly are. The change to the tracking in siege will be a welcomed change as they can actually defend themselves.


Got this far and just have to ask, What is it you think they're doing to change sieged dreads?


They've removed the tracking penalty while in Siege, glad to see you're following along.


Really? You're getting this mad about a change you didn't even take the time to understand?
Barking Dragon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#471 - 2012-03-13 18:56:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Barking Dragon
Marlona Sky wrote:
Barking Dragon wrote:
I don't really care about Titans...But for the love of all that is holy will you please stop changing the names of all the mods?! I can't find anything anymore. Thanks.


There is several tools available to find what you need if you don't have every module name memorized. Use them.


Ugh...effort. Why did they need changed again?
BioZvin
The Acheron
Unforgiving.
#472 - 2012-03-13 18:56:42 UTC  |  Edited by: BioZvin
Please add no sub cap can damage a Titan in any way. Only fair they have to bring something we can shoot ?
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#473 - 2012-03-13 18:56:52 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Innominate wrote:
Ra Death wrote:

Dreads are mainly antistructure. Yes, they certainly are. The change to the tracking in siege will be a welcomed change as they can actually defend themselves.


Got this far and just have to ask, What is it you think they're doing to change sieged dreads?


They've removed the tracking penalty while in Siege, glad to see you're following along.

oh grath, have you learned nothing about posting since our last encounter

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Travis Wells
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#474 - 2012-03-13 18:57:14 UTC
Mage Khour wrote:
Sadly but true. But i dont see myself fit into EVE ONLINE anymore, CCP keeps nurfing, nurfing and nurfing.

4 accounts now canceled...

CCP wins, gl with destroying the game !

Perpetuum here i come





c u l8r m8 hf o7
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#475 - 2012-03-13 18:57:22 UTC
Andski wrote:


what do you think they did to the guns that tend to be fitted on dreads????


I'm going to assume that you haven't looked at what the actual numbers mean when applied in game then.


Remember when Mynas started his countdown in September with the whole "Winter is Coming" thing? Yea, this is kinda like that, only its this time certain other alliances are going to mass quit for what they see this as (and yes, they actually are).


Some people just don't want to play the game now that its obvious that Soundwave is backing his old alliance in any in game changes that are made. Others of us don't care so much.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Mhyn Teregone
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#476 - 2012-03-13 18:57:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Mhyn Teregone
Grath Telkin wrote:
Second, you're saying that isk shouldn't matter, and then making a balance pass that assumes every titan in the game has 30 billion isk in sensor bossters on their titans. Thats a hypocritical statement in the extreme sense of the word. Taking 40 seconds to lock a capital ship is simply ********, 15 seconds to lock another titan.

Really, 15 seconds to lock another titan?
Why would forty seconds to lock a capital ship matter? Its tackled .. its not going anywhere.
Jack Haydn
Magellanic Itg
Goonswarm Federation
#477 - 2012-03-13 18:57:42 UTC
FawKa wrote:


aaand, Raiden. was never ment to have space (some just forgot), so I'm good ^^


Didn't want that sov anyway.
Machine Delta
State War Academy
Caldari State
#478 - 2012-03-13 18:57:56 UTC
Mage Khour wrote:
Sadly but true. But i dont see myself fit into EVE ONLINE anymore, CCP keeps nurfing, nurfing and nurfing.

4 accounts now canceled...

CCP wins, gl with destroying the game !

Perpetuum here i come





4 accounts you are giving up. Sad to see.
This is what I'm talking about. The nerf is no good.
However many people are for it it still reeks of coercion.

Today I dropped roles from this "alliance"
Really it's nothing but a cult of personality for a hubris filled leader now.
Instead of running the group he's just using us for votes for CSM.
Maybe the other directors will overthrow mittens but I think the tech money is too good.
Each one of them is getting Plex and god knows what else under the table.
Sadly CCP does nothing about this but will nerf whatever they cry about.
Titans are one of many things to go, next will probably be mothership changes.
Erebus pilots are already selling like mad, why bother, no one will buy them.
Right now lots of people are mad, this is worse than anything BoB/T20 did.

Travis Wells
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#479 - 2012-03-13 18:58:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Travis Wells
BioZvin wrote:
Please add no sub cap can damage a Titan in any way. Only fair they have to bring something we can shoot ?



a bloooooo bloooooo bloooooooo

something, not fair, in my eve? woah
Sardaros
Dunc Are
#480 - 2012-03-13 18:58:23 UTC
Mage Khour wrote:
Sadly but true. But i dont see myself fit into EVE ONLINE anymore, CCP keeps nurfing, nurfing and nurfing.

4 accounts now canceled...

CCP wins, gl with destroying the game !

Perpetuum here i come




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