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Incoming titan adjustments

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Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2581 - 2012-03-21 00:58:06 UTC
DaiTengu wrote:
supr3m3justic3 wrote:
DaiTengu wrote:
I think this needs to be re-posted:

In February, titans were responsible for destroying 823 ships in null security space. Of these, 764 were subcapitals.

https://twitter.com/CCP_Diagoras/status/180712331515396096


LOL.....764 ships, Are you kidding? That like what, 2 fleet fights. Better nerf that **** quick, cause i can see that easily hitting 800.
Shocked


20-30 dudes killed 764 sub-caps with no risk when CCP has said they should be an anti-capital platform.


92% of the ships killed by Titans - which CCP has NOW said should be for shooting capitals and structures - were sub-capitals.


fyp

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Orion Guardian
#2582 - 2012-03-21 01:15:20 UTC
supr3m3justic3 wrote:
DaiTengu wrote:
I think this needs to be re-posted:

In February, titans were responsible for destroying 823 ships in null security space. Of these, 764 were subcapitals

https://twitter.com/CCP_Diagoras/status/180712331515396096


LOL.....764 ships, Are you kidding? That like what, 2 fleet fights. Better nerf that **** quick, cause i can see that easily hitting 800
Shocked


or, to come from the other side: The "Capital Ship killer" did kill 59 capital ships in Nullsec in February....BUT it killed 764 Non-Capitals...

Not sure....sounds broken

And the "1200 people become irrelevant" reason for taking down Titans is kind of convincing...I mean...not everyone who started playing in 2004 even WANTS to fly a kilometer long spacecoffin after all. And most people who started much later cannot fly them competently really.

I mean: Subcapitals have a hard time killing Titans without Capital support, so why shouldn't Titans have a hard time killing subcapitals without support? Well that even could create two different battlefields to a conflict...a subcapital heavy and a capital heavy. If CCP went out of their way to actually deliver a sov system where different playstyles next to X00vsX00 where needed....well then it actually would make even more sense

And you know what my opinion is: Titans should have a non-combat role. Someone suggested "mobile station" or "field HQ" then tehre wouldn't be a reason for any alliance to have 40 of thos

Until then: Still heard no reason why the only counter to Titans should be "more Titans"
Acwron
Meet The Fockers
#2583 - 2012-03-21 02:55:05 UTC
[/quote]

Until then: Still heard no reason why the only counter to Titans should be "more Titans"[/quote]

Because drakes and maelstroms have some difficulties in killing a TITAN !
You need to bring the equivalent to kill it !

You don't have ? Grind isk and get it !
Are you afraid ? Go back to high sec.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2584 - 2012-03-21 05:27:01 UTC
Acwron wrote:


Until then: Still heard no reason why the only counter to Titans should be "more Titans"

Because drakes and maelstroms have some difficulties in killing a TITAN !
You need to bring the equivalent to kill it !

You don't have ? Grind isk and get it !
Are you afraid ? Go back to high sec.


your titan in particular doesn't require much effort to counter

a simple scam is all it takes

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2585 - 2012-03-21 05:29:56 UTC
"hey my friend's ragnarok is dying because he's an idiot, let me warp in my 25b nyx to save him instead of this 900m triage carrier"

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Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2586 - 2012-03-21 05:30:58 UTC
if anything we shouldn't be rewarding people that would be willing to grind out 70billion isk
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2587 - 2012-03-21 05:31:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
acwron bots/rmts, nobody with two brain cells to rub together would get scammed out of a nyx and expect GMs to care

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Citamarret
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2588 - 2012-03-21 06:08:36 UTC
quote this if you click and drag the mittani's avatar around titan careposts so it looks like he's taunting them
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2589 - 2012-03-21 09:00:25 UTC
supr3m3justic3 wrote:
DaiTengu wrote:
supr3m3justic3 wrote:
DaiTengu wrote:
I think this needs to be re-posted:

In February, titans were responsible for destroying 823 ships in null security space. Of these, 764 were subcapitals.

https://twitter.com/CCP_Diagoras/status/180712331515396096


LOL.....764 ships, Are you kidding? That like what, 2 fleet fights. Better nerf that **** quick, cause i can see that easily hitting 800.
Shocked


20-30 dudes killed 764 sub-caps with no risk when CCP has said they should be an anti-capital platform.


92% of the ships killed by Titans - which CCP has said should be for shooting capitals and structures - were sub-capitals.



80% of all the post in this thread that are non-supportive of the nerf dont really give 2 ***** about the titans, they would rather see some super over power ship, than goons get thier way, ny ******* day of the week. Our hate for you fuels the tracking titans, and i hope that thousands more of you die to the titans before they get nerfed, then after that, i hope we find a new way to shove all 1600 drakes right up your troll holes.


You mad? You sound pretty mad.
Orion Guardian
#2590 - 2012-03-21 09:22:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Orion Guardian
Acwron wrote:


Quote:
Until then: Still heard no reason why the only counter to Titans should be "more Titans"


Because drakes and maelstroms have some difficulties in killing a TITAN !
You need to bring the equivalent to kill it !

You don't have ? Grind isk and get it !
Are you afraid ? Go back to high sec.


So with a proper quote: If you tried proper grammar you might even bring across your point without me going: "Wtf is he trying to say?". I try it anyway

What kind of equivalent do you mean? Equivalent ISK? -> Why doesn't an officer fit Mach fleet of say 10, no kill a Titan then?

Skill: Well I am quite sure I pounded as much SP in Subcapitals as you did in your Titan, why can't I solo you?

EHP: Well, then go for the "few hundred Drakes" Theory.

EPEEN: Ok, I get it, nothing compares to a Titan in EPEENishness (what a strange made up word). But frankly, I don't really think they are that cool to enlarge your imaginary primary sexual organ that much.

What Equivalent may you possibly mean?


Second point: If you only used Drakes and Maelstroms I could understand your point...but lets see. Maelstrom, Huginn, Lachesis, Intereceptors*4, Interdictors*4, Heavy Interdictors*2, Hurricanes, Scimitars, Scorpions, Rooks. That is for a MAelstrom fleet, at least the shiptypes I normally see. 7 different Shiptypes, 17 different Ships....equivalent diversity after all.

btw: Its about a similar diversity with Drakes and AHACs and Welpcanes and I heard one of our allies used Abaddons as well oh and Tengus, well Bombers are not as divers only 1 shiptype and 4 shipos there. Or Black Ops. The only thing we do NOT field is a Titanblob to counter other peoples Titanblobs. edit: Don't forget Tier 3 Battlecruisers..

And before you start again: It would be rather stupid to field even 250 Dreadnoughts against a Titanblob (if we had that many people even wanting to fly Capitals). They'd most likely just get killed, without killing a single Titan because with our dictors and Hictors being killed by the Titan blapping they cannot be pointed. Ofc, after these changes that won't change, but I don't think THAT is a mistake at all. After all Titans are meant to be Anti Capital now. INSTEAD of being a big Support ship.
Sentinel Eeex
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2591 - 2012-03-21 14:11:15 UTC
Acwron wrote:
My Rag has a 68 mm scan resolution. With 3 Cormack Sebos I have 296mm

Without any sensor booster, I target a Dramiel in 33 sec.

With a Shadow Serpentis sebo I target in 20 sec.
With a Cormack Sebo it takes 18 sec
With 2 Cormack Sebo it takes 11 Sec
With 3 Cormack Sebo it takes 8 sec

Without any sensor booster, I target a Nightmare in 13 sec

With a Cormack Sebo it takes 8 sec
With 2 Cormack Sebos it takes 4 sec
With 3 Cormack Sebo it takes less than 3 sec

Now, getting scan resolution from 68 to 5, imagine how much it will take to target a frigate. With TiDi on, you have time to take a bath, eat, watch a movie, sleep, wake up, take a shower then check if your target is locked. Meh, it's not there anymore. he's in his home system. For a long time now. But tomorrow is another day, you can try to lock something again. Make sure you got everything you need: food, water/beer/scotch, movies and popcorn ofc

Oh crap, I can't hit anything cos my tracking is halved. nevermind, going back to the movie.


It is amusing that you've answered to yourself, but didn't even realize it.
Snot Shot
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2592 - 2012-03-21 16:56:02 UTC
Is it true that Goonie Titans come with training wheels?

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John Zorg
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2593 - 2012-03-21 17:11:09 UTC
Snot Shot wrote:
Is it true that Goonie Titans come with training wheels?


c
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2594 - 2012-03-21 18:29:00 UTC
DaiTengu wrote:
supr3m3justic3 wrote:
DaiTengu wrote:
I think this needs to be re-posted:

In February, titans were responsible for destroying 823 ships in null security space. Of these, 764 were subcapitals.

https://twitter.com/CCP_Diagoras/status/180712331515396096


LOL.....764 ships, Are you kidding? That like what, 2 fleet fights. Better nerf that **** quick, cause i can see that easily hitting 800.
Shocked


20-30 dudes killed 764 sub-caps with no risk when CCP has said they should be an anti-capital platform.


92% of the ships killed by Titans - which CCP has said should be for shooting capitals and structures - were sub-capitals.


You mad?

Also:
During the Ice interdiction, 90% of killed ice miners in high sec were killed by Goons - who are supposed to be a null sec alliance.
Citamarret
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2595 - 2012-03-21 18:33:12 UTC
goons are really bad at this game and it is a mystery as to how we actually hold sov

oh wait no it isn't everyone else is just terrible

heh,. owned
Snot Shot
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2596 - 2012-03-21 19:31:40 UTC
Citamarret wrote:
goons are really bad at this game and it is a mystery as to how we actually hold sov

oh wait no it isn't everyone else is just terrible

heh,. owned

I think you got it right the first sentence……….after goonies were given 3 regions by PL & NC, you then proceeded to lose all 3 regions faster than any Alliance in EVE history, then TCF handed you their space prior to them disbanding.

Now you just collect **** Alliances as cannon fodder to protect and insulate your space while you cry to CCP to nerf anything that might threaten it…….Cry

Think that sums it up…..Blink
.

Twitter = @Snot_Shot  - “If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#2597 - 2012-03-21 19:35:08 UTC
Andski wrote:
"hey my friend's ragnarok is dying because he's an idiot, let me warp in my 25b nyx to save him instead of this 900m triage carrier"


900m triage carrier?What? what like fully fit or sometin?

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#2598 - 2012-03-21 20:06:58 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Andski wrote:
"hey my friend's ragnarok is dying because he's an idiot, let me warp in my 25b nyx to save him instead of this 900m triage carrier"


900m triage carrier?What? what like fully fit or sometin?

Sometimes its :effort: to strip the non-triage mods off a carrier, ya know?

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#2599 - 2012-03-21 23:33:17 UTC
Snot Shot wrote:
Citamarret wrote:
goons are really bad at this game and it is a mystery as to how we actually hold sov

oh wait no it isn't everyone else is just terrible

heh,. owned

I think you got it right the first sentence……….after goonies were given 3 regions by PL & NC, you then proceeded to lose all 3 regions faster than any Alliance in EVE history, then TCF handed you their space prior to them disbanding.

Now you just collect **** Alliances as cannon fodder to protect and insulate your space while you cry to CCP to nerf anything that might threaten it…….Cry

Think that sums it up…..Blink
.


This from a nobody who camps jita station all day with their neutral alts on standby just in case the hauler you're ganking tries to shoot back...
Snot Shot
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2600 - 2012-03-21 23:48:13 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Snot Shot wrote:
Citamarret wrote:
goons are really bad at this game and it is a mystery as to how we actually hold sov

oh wait no it isn't everyone else is just terrible

heh,. owned

I think you got it right the first sentence……….after goonies were given 3 regions by PL & NC, you then proceeded to lose all 3 regions faster than any Alliance in EVE history, then TCF handed you their space prior to them disbanding.

Now you just collect **** Alliances as cannon fodder to protect and insulate your space while you cry to CCP to nerf anything that might threaten it…….Cry

Think that sums it up…..Blink
.


This from a nobody who camps jita station all day with their neutral alts on standby just in case the hauler you're ganking tries to shoot back...

You guys keep spouting off about this mystical place called Jita.........but I just can't seem to locate it on my KB link below...Blink
.

Twitter = @Snot_Shot  - “If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"

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