EVE General Discussion

This is reaching the level of a crime wave. The gankers are no longer even using passive targeters to scan you. I'm getting visibly scanned every time I bring any form of hauler into Jita. This is an annoying constant assault. Its also putting hard limit on how much isk can be shipped that is, I think, lower than what CCP intended.

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Funny, the only time I have been yellow boxed is when I'm autopiloting (which I only do with an empty or worthless cargo hold, mind you).

How about putting Perimeter and Sobaseki on your avoidance list? The other gates in Jita are completely void of gankers. And in the worst case, it'll add 4 jumps to your trips.

You need to whine more to make sure even the last idiot learns what formidable income the Tornado can provide for those who understand what a positive sec status is for.

Suicide ganking is so prevalent because it's the ONLY viable form of PvP left in highsec.

The wardec mechanics have been broken for years and the GMs let it go to trash.

How do you kill someone in highsec? Wardec is no longer a viable option.
So what are you left with? Suicide ganking.

the only problem with suicide ganking is the punishment is hardly anything.
one way to help fix it is make sec status mean something more then "your allowed to enter space"

if you have a 5.0 sec status its the same as someone with a 0.0 sec status.

how bout give people with more then 0 some good stuff?

more bounties from rat kills- or make it so 5.0 = what it is now and less the lower your sec, this means suicide ganking will hurt your income until u get it back up.

more expensive to war dec corps or alliances with higher sec status- the same way corp standings are taken make it so war dec prices are say, 5 times more expensive for the corp/alliance average this will help the war dec griefing issue a bit, and makes a nice isk sink.

faster concord response in highsec- obvious
have concord pod people if they are -5.0 or something- tears.

If EVE is too hard, you are too weak.

…or, if you are carrying less than 40k m³, use an Orca — requires 50% more gank and provides 100% less loot.

Another way is if people actually delivered the punishment they're meant to deliver. This would be further helped if wardecs weren't so broken and if they were easier to initiate and harder to shake off.

Suicide ganking exists because it's the only remaining functional avenue of attack, and it works so well because people have become so used to the safety of highsec that they forgot to take even the most basic precautions. Making space less safe would most likely make people more secure, because they would have to learn and employ some more intelligent safety behaviour, which works wonders against suicide ganks.

[quote=Stella SGP]Well, referring to an earlier thread about suicide freighters, sadly the general consensus on the forums seem to be either haul less then 700mil in your freighter or bring a gang of 12 remote reppers to counter the 12 Tornados sitting on gate.

A 700m cap on moving stuff with a freighter makes any good with a value greater than say 1000 isk/m3 difficult to ship (assuming a freighter hold of 700,000 m/3. Trit is going for 4.5 isk/unit right now or 450 isk/m3.

Let me try to get this through your thick skull. Any mod with more than a 2.2 compression factor, just on trit alone, can no longer be efficiently hauled. That's almost every item in the game (except cap boosters).

You kill the ability to ship things then wonder why the game has run away inflation. If you can't ship effectively you go from large industrialists spooling up large jobs to little guys moving in a stack of maybe 100 mods at a time. This is not a good thing for an effective low price point.