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Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#1421 - 2014-02-21 00:52:34 UTC
So you captured and re-enslaved those who'd been properly freed. You personally overlooked this fact and instead made your own judgement supersede that of their previous master.

Amarr Civil Services do not accept freed slaves so what do you plan to do with these individuals?

-Eran
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#1422 - 2014-02-21 03:09:14 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
So you captured and re-enslaved those who'd been properly freed. You personally overlooked this fact and instead made your own judgement supersede that of their previous master.

Amarr Civil Services do not accept freed slaves so what do you plan to do with these individuals?

-Eran


Negative. The Freed Slaves were left behind in the jetcan. The Slavers and Slaver Hounds were rescued, and the regular Slaves sold.
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#1423 - 2014-02-21 03:10:39 UTC
Tahrmal Nalthkh wrote:
The Disciples of Ston endeavor to provide optimum habitation infrastructure for the Matriculant populations.


Yes... down a snake people rabbit hole!
Tahrmal Nalthkh
Disciples of Ston
#1424 - 2014-02-21 16:24:59 UTC
Rescue Report:
116.02.21 01:56 Terraquake 10 rescued, Jaiken 5 rescued
116.02.21 15:51 Samwise Everquest 40 rescued

The first rescue involved deathcans that I witnessed being jettisoned. I was under a suspect flag at the time and decided to wait until the flag expired before I decloaked and made the rescue. Those were long minutes. There is real agony in the whole experience, first to see these pilots do this and then to wonder about the lives in danger. There was great relief when we were able to fly in and make the rescue. Our centers grow in spite of the sadism of Nauplius and his ilk. I think there is still hope for Calyce lo. Something tells me she is nothing more than a poor, abused and manipulated person. Come out of the darkness of Nauplius' sadism and find a life. We'll be here to help you if ever you should decide.

Dr. Tahrmal Nalthkh CEO, DSTON Rescue Pilot

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#1425 - 2014-02-21 16:48:02 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Eran Mintor wrote:
So you captured and re-enslaved those who'd been properly freed. You personally overlooked this fact and instead made your own judgement supersede that of their previous master.

Amarr Civil Services do not accept freed slaves so what do you plan to do with these individuals?

-Eran


Negative. The Freed Slaves were left behind in the jetcan.


If those slaves were legally emancipated by their Holders and you left them to die in that can, then you are complicit in the murder of Amarr citizens and deserve to burn in the same hell that you advocate for others.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#1426 - 2014-02-21 17:07:35 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:

If those slaves were legally emancipated by their Holders and you left them to die in that can, then you are complicit in the murder of Amarr citizens and deserve to burn in the same hell that you advocate for others.


I seem to be having difficulty making my actions and intentions clear.

The jetcan contained four types of living cargo: Slavers, Slaver Hounds, Slaves, and Freed Slaves. There was not enough room in my associate's Magnate for all of them. Something had to stay behind, and that something would be in danger of "rescue" by the Disciples of Ston (and thus eventual damnation and destruction). The Freed Slaves were chosen to be left behind, as they are most likely to be unredeemed and already headed for damnation.

That last point may seem unusual, as one would think a slave freed from nine generations of Amarrian slavery would be a redeemed individual in the eyes of God. That would be true, but:
— The SCC category of Freed Slaves includes people freed from non-Amarrian slavery.
— The SCC category of Freed Slaves includes forcibly taken from Amarrian slavery (by "freedom fighters", the Republic, or Empyreans employed by these.
— The SCC category of Freed Slaves also includes individuals freed from Amarrian slavery by liberal owners who have not redeemed their slaves in the eyes of God.

I do, actually, rescue Freed Slaves when space permits; however, they are given lower priority than other categories of persons.
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#1427 - 2014-02-21 17:16:15 UTC
Your saying Slaver Hounds are more redeemable in the eyes of your God than Freed Slaves?

Your taking a chance of condemning living people, whom may or may not have been legally freed by the Amarrian legal system, over dogs?

The very fact that your allowing your own political inclinations get in the way of doing what any true follower of the faith would do (referencing your asinine comment about 'liberal holders') is sickening.

As someone who was raised in the Khanid Kingdom as a follower of the Faith you make me ashamed to even consider you a 'brother'.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#1428 - 2014-02-21 17:34:27 UTC
Dogs are not persons, yet you apparently feel they are to be given higher priority when space is limited.

And your assumptions are irrelevant. If they were released illegally by the Republic, then they should be returned to their Holders, and are of no lesser or greater worth than any of the other slaves in that can. If they were legally emancipated by 'liberal' owners, that is something of which you have absolutely no right to comment on. A Holder has the moral and religious authority, in the eyes of God and Empire, to determine if that slave's line has been cleansed. You do not. If a Holder has legally emancipated a slave, then that slave is a free citizen of Amarr, recognized and noted in the Book of Records. Only those Holders of senior authority, or the Heirs, Theology Council, or Her Imperial Majesty have the right to challenge that decision.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#1429 - 2014-02-21 17:36:35 UTC
Simon Louvaki wrote:
Your saying Slaver Hounds are more redeemable in the eyes of your God than Freed Slaves?

Your taking a chance of condemning living people, whom may or may not have been legally freed by the Amarrian legal system, over dogs?

The very fact that your allowing your own political inclinations get in the way of doing what any true follower of the faith would do (referencing your asinine comment about 'liberal holders') is sickening.

As someone who was raised in the Khanid Kingdom as a follower of the Faith you make me ashamed to even consider you a 'brother'.


Ability to be redeemed is not my sole criterion for rescue prioritization; I also consider utility to the Empire as well as my own personal finances. This ought to have been apparent from my first post on Re-Enslavement Triage in which I said that I would prioritize potential breeder slaves, Sebestior engineers, and so forth over the run-of-the-mill slave.

Slaver Hounds are useful and so I choose to save them.

I will be forthright and honest and say that I would consider value, as well. If I found a jetcan that contained 400 cubes of slaves and 400 cubes of BPOs worth a hundred billion, I'm rescuing the latter. I presume most if not all Empyreans would do the same thing. I just admit it.

P. S. Some of my critics would have more credibility if they, I dunno, actually rescued anyone from space themselves. It is a lot easier to snipe at someone doing actual work than actually doing work.
Pontianak Sythaeryn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1430 - 2014-02-21 17:45:39 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
P. S. Some of my critics would have more credibility if they, I dunno, actually rescued anyone from space themselves. It is a lot easier to snipe at someone doing actual work than actually doing work.


As somebody in Amarr space at the moment, liberating slaves and taking them to Federation controlled stations while also siffoning away all your Empire spaces minerals... you might be surprised just how many of them gladly jump at the chance to get away from people like you. Also your stations design is atrocious to my eyes. All that gawdy gold color, and those wacky statues. Ugh. Of course that's just the personal opinion of myself.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#1431 - 2014-02-21 17:53:49 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Dogs are not persons, yet you apparently feel they are to be given higher priority when space is limited.

And your assumptions are irrelevant. If they were released illegally by the Republic, then they should be returned to their Holders, and are of no lesser or greater worth than any of the other slaves in that can. If they were legally emancipated by 'liberal' owners, that is something of which you have absolutely no right to comment on. A Holder has the moral and religious authority, in the eyes of God and Empire, to determine if that slave's line has been cleansed. You do not. If a Holder has legally emancipated a slave, then that slave is a free citizen of Amarr, recognized and noted in the Book of Records. Only those Holders of senior authority, or the Heirs, Theology Council, or Her Imperial Majesty have the right to challenge that decision.


I shall take this advice under advisement.
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#1432 - 2014-02-21 18:20:08 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Slaver Hounds are useful and so I choose to save them


Slaver hounds are beautiful, intelligent creatures whose loyalty - in contrast to many primate derivatives - is beyond question. Your decision in this matter was absolutely correct.

I consider myself fortunate there were no slaver hounds in that doomed casino...
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#1433 - 2014-02-21 18:35:58 UTC
Which of your critics would you be referring to? There are many out there who are less vocal about their activities for whatever reason.

-Eran
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#1434 - 2014-02-22 13:03:40 UTC
Re-Enslavement Report:
2014-02-21 12:37 24 Slaves
2014-02-22 12:30 10 Elite Slaves

All were chained, collared, and stuffed full of Vitoc; regular slaves were sold back into slavery, while Elite Slaves will be retained as crew in the 24th Imperial Crusade, where they will glorify God in the war against their subhuman kin.

Question for my debaters: Would you think it better that I not rescue from jetcans at all, knowing that death would be the result for some of those whom I would otherwise recover?
Tahrmal Nalthkh
Disciples of Ston
#1435 - 2014-02-22 17:58:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Tahrmal Nalthkh
Rescue Report:
116.02.22 17:45 Ender Bob 112 rescued

It occurred to me a little while ago, so I decided to make this rescue report while the thought was fresh. On the return trip to the Kaap Center from this rescue there is a beautiful view of the Agridome just as you come out of warp approaching the station. This time of the day, the agridome has sunlight and the agri-zones are alive with color and texture. It struck me that many of our Matriculants have never seen that view. So, a holo-recording is being made of both the daytime and nighttime approaches from the rescue zone to the station Agridome. These will now be broadcast across the Holo-screens of the center upon the return of each rescue. It will be a sort of visual "you are welcome here."

I have made the decision to resign as Provost of the DSTON Academic Learning center program. Development will handle academic administration until a replacement can be found. My recommendation is that it be filled with a non-capsuleer. My interest and involvement in our academics will continue just not in that position.

Dr. Tahrmal Nalthkh CEO, DSTON Rescue Pilot

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#1436 - 2014-02-23 16:24:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Nauplius
Re-Enslavement Report:
2014-02-22 16:28 32 Slaves

The Disciples of Ston/Molok have been describing the initial impressions their captives experience upon entering their facilities. Allow me to describe what newly re-enslaved persons experience when they are taken aboard my starships.

They are blindfolded and taken directly to the Vitoc Injection Facility. When the blindfolds are removed, they see the following: a chain-gang of collared slaves, lined up for their daily Vitoc injection, overseen by mean looking Brutor (themselves chained and collared) bearing the electric lash. Surrounding everyone is a pack of slaver hounds. Thus, the five primary means of slave control are immediately made apparent in both sight and sound (and in the case of the hounds, smell) to my recaptures: chains, collars, Vitoc, hounds, and the electric lash.

On all walls of the Vitoc Injection Facility/Reception Facility are played holoreel video of recent slave executions on my ships and colonies. Since I resort to this method of punishment with above-average frequency (through still just within the bounds of religious orthodoxy) there is always video material available.

Finally, sometime during their first day, re-captured slaves will be herded into a room in order to experience their first Two and a Half Minutes Hate, a daily tradition on my starships and colonies. A holoreel with highly edited scenes of the Battle of Vak'Atioth interspersed with the most viscious, grotesque images of Jove imaginable is shown to all the slaves present, who are (literally) whipped into a frenzy of violence and hatred against the Jove. Lifelike effigies of Jove are presented to the slaves who rip the effigies apart, with rewards given to those who display the most destructive zeal. At the end of the ritual, the holoreel displays loving, kind images of Jamyl Sarum, to which the slaves bow and prostrate.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#1437 - 2014-02-23 17:54:39 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Re-Enslavement Report:
2014-02-22 16:28 32 Slaves

The Disciples of Ston/Molok have been describing the initial impressions their captives experience upon entering their facilities. Allow me to describe what newly re-enslaved persons experience when they are taken aboard my starships.

They are blindfolded and taken directly to the Vitoc Injection Facility. When the blindfolds are removed, they see the following: a chain-gang of collared slaves, lined up for their daily Vitoc injection, overseen by mean looking Brutor (themselves chained and collared) bearing the electric lash. Surrounding everyone is a pack of slaver hounds. Thus, the five primary means of slave control are immediately made apparent in both sight and sound (and in the case of the hounds, smell) to my recaptures: chains, collars, Vitoc, hounds, and the electric lash.

On all walls of the Vitoc Injection Facility/Reception Facility are played holoreel video of recent slave executions on my ships and colonies. Since I resort to this method of punishment with above-average frequency (through still just within the bounds of religious orthodoxy) there is always video material available.

Finally, sometime during their first day, re-captured slaves will be herded into a room in order to experience their first Two and Half Minutes Hate, a daily tradition on my starships and colonies. A holoreel with highly edited scenes Battle of Vak'Atioth interspersed with the most viscious, grotesque images of Jove imaginable is shown to all the slaves present, who are (literally) whipped into a frenzy of violence and hatred against the Jove. Lifelike effigies of Jove are presented to the slaves who rip the effigies apart, with rewards given to those who display the most destructive zeal. At the end of the ritual, the holoreel displays loving, kind images of Jamyl Sarum, to which the slaves bow and prostrate.

You really know how to host a gig, don't you?

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Tahrmal Nalthkh
Disciples of Ston
#1438 - 2014-02-23 20:54:49 UTC
Rescue Report:
116.02.22 20:29 Abe'Roth Clancy 10 rescued
116.02.23 00:01 (blue) 171 Slaves, 10 Elite Slaves Rescued
116.02.23 13:40 Odino Reyna 41 rescued

Out of the imagination of the heart proceeds some of the most marvelous of human achievement. Advances in medicine and technologies have enable humanity to bring a quality of life to all were it not for greed and hatred. These also proceed from the heart's imagination and pollute humanity with the unspeakable ills of war, cruelty, poverty and the kind of sadistic slavery of such wounded men as Nauplius. What can we do in the face of such reckless hate? We do only what each day gives us to do. We show kindness to those that are given to us for that purpose. We do what we can.

Dr. Tahrmal Nalthkh CEO, DSTON Rescue Pilot

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#1439 - 2014-02-24 02:21:30 UTC
Simon Louvaki wrote:
Your saying Slaver Hounds are more redeemable in the eyes of your God than Freed Slaves?


Who knows? The Sani Sabik are weird.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Slave A00073078
Northern Raven Reconnaissance Syndicate
#1440 - 2014-02-24 10:31:31 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Re-Enslavement Report:
2014-02-22 16:28 32 Slaves BLAH BLAH BLAH


Such a boring way to spend an evening. Could be winning the iskies in some high stakes gambling but no, you run off and mess around with the mortals.