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Former Slaves Enter Matriculation Program

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Eran Mintor
Furtherance.
#1361 - 2014-02-09 16:42:43 UTC
It's not 'grrr goons' anymore, it's 'grrr DSTON'. That just tickles me pink.

-Eran
Manwe Todako
Disciples of Ston
#1362 - 2014-02-09 20:03:11 UTC
Rescue/confiscation report:

116.02.07 20:57 (blue can labelled "free ammo") 1 slave and small cache of projectile ammo
116.02.08 14:58 weapons confiscation 500,000 ISK

By far the easiest way to loot a jetcan is simply to loot all and not take the time to separate out different items. It is also the fasted and most secure way. The blue can look suspicious to me because rarely do non-contraband blue cans last long in high traffic areas. Sure enough, there was a single human survivor on board. We wish they all could be blue deathcan rescues but they are becoming rare in our work. Confiscations have resumed but with a greater and more scrutinized level of caution. Risk cannot be eliminated but it can be reduced significantly.

SANKOFA

Tahrmal Nalthkh
Disciples of Ston
#1363 - 2014-02-10 14:15:41 UTC
Rescue Report:

116.02.09 02:30 boxerboynine Kirkle 11 rescued
116.02.10 13:47 Sheldblaster 5 rescued, Chip Aztec 35 rescued

As mentioned earlier, DSTON Development has instituted new guidelines for confiscation work. In addition to the newly christened DSS Plowshare that I will be piloting, we have also christened the DSS Pacifist that will be piloted by Ston. Both vessels are not yet fully fitted for service but will be undergoing fitting and shake down service before fully deployed.

I enjoyed the privilege of helping Mr. Momaki give a tour of our Kaap facility to two fine, courteous and intelligent pilots. I say this because to differ in opinion is not a reason for a complete lack of decorum. Recent posts by Taisia Zaytseva have been tasteless, crude and far more appropriate for the "locker room" rather than this forum. We welcome her criticism and even accusations, but use some intelligence and appropriateness in your language, please.

Prove her ability to express yourself with decorum or I will be blocking her posts from view.

Dr. Tahrmal Nalthkh CEO, DSTON Rescue Pilot

Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#1364 - 2014-02-10 16:12:18 UTC
Rescue Report:

116.02.10 02:41 BlakDice 26 people

These 26 people were jettisoned in a deathcan and might not have been rescued but for a pilot who reported the can. The pilot stayed by the can until we could arrive to rescue them. They were rescued from the cold of space and were brought to a place of warmth and provision.

Right around the same time two pilots from reputable organizations conducted a verification tour of our Kaap facility. This location was chosen not because it is the largest of our populations, but because it is the busiest rescue reception center. As Tahrmal stated earlier, we know that there are those who disagree with what we do and doubt that we are genuine. People should raise questions, that generates accountability and is good for our organization. The raising of such questions in a respectful manner with appropriate decorum and appropriate discourse resulted in the arranging of this verification tour and perhaps more such tours in the future. I salute the two pilots involved and appreciate the way that they have handled any concerns about our operation.

I am not naming them here to respect their privacy. Lately there has been some distasteful posting on this thread and I do not want to expose these pilots to such things unless they chose to make their names known. I have grown to respect many of our detractors and have grown to respect the one who requested the tour even more since meeting the individual in person. I know that many questions and concerns probably remain open but I hope that some were answered in the short time we could spend together.

May grace abide with the both of you.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace

Karynn Denton
Untitled Goose Corp
#1365 - 2014-02-10 16:46:28 UTC
Disciples of Ston, I have questions:

Do you ever confiscate contraband psychotropics such as capsuleer combat boosters or baseliner recreational drugs?

If so, what do you do with them?

If not, why not?

I look forward to your reply.

Karynn Denton

Caravan Master

Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#1366 - 2014-02-10 16:58:45 UTC
Karynn Denton wrote:
Disciples of Ston, I have questions:

Do you ever confiscate contraband psychotropics such as capsuleer combat boosters or baseliner recreational drugs?

If so, what do you do with them?

If not, why not?

I look forward to your reply.


Thanks for your question. Yes we confiscate these items when we happen upon them. Our policy with weapons, ammunition and drugs is to store them indefinitely. The reason for this is because it is our policy to never profit from such confiscations. All the items we confiscate are verifiable over time. We maintain separate storage facilities for all confiscated weapons, ammo, and drugs. We do not trash or recycle them again so that a permanent record may be maintained and verified and so that base materials can not be sold by us. Should you wish to inspect a confiscation facility please feel free to contact me and we can arrange a time to do this. Once an inspection is made, your outside record could be verified by a repeat visit should you chose to do so. In other words, items in our confiscation facility will always be there. More may be added, but nothing will be removed.

Please feel free to ask for any clarification.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#1367 - 2014-02-10 17:52:12 UTC
Ston Momaki wrote:
Karynn Denton wrote:
Disciples of Ston, I have questions:

Do you ever confiscate contraband psychotropics such as capsuleer combat boosters or baseliner recreational drugs?

If so, what do you do with them?

If not, why not?

I look forward to your reply.


Thanks for your question. Yes we confiscate these items when we happen upon them. Our policy with weapons, ammunition and drugs is to store them indefinitely. The reason for this is because it is our policy to never profit from such confiscations. All the items we confiscate are verifiable over time. We maintain separate storage facilities for all confiscated weapons, ammo, and drugs. We do not trash or recycle them again so that a permanent record may be maintained and verified and so that base materials can not be sold by us. Should you wish to inspect a confiscation facility please feel free to contact me and we can arrange a time to do this. Once an inspection is made, your outside record could be verified by a repeat visit should you chose to do so. In other words, items in our confiscation facility will always be there. More may be added, but nothing will be removed.

Please feel free to ask for any clarification.

Short answer: No we won't sell them to you. Big smile

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Karynn Denton
Untitled Goose Corp
#1368 - 2014-02-10 18:03:22 UTC
Ston Momaki wrote:

Thanks for your question. Yes we confiscate these items when we happen upon them. Our policy with weapons, ammunition and drugs is to store them indefinitely. The reason for this is because it is our policy to never profit from such confiscations. All the items we confiscate are verifiable over time. We maintain separate storage facilities for all confiscated weapons, ammo, and drugs. We do not trash or recycle them again so that a permanent record may be maintained and verified and so that base materials can not be sold by us. Should you wish to inspect a confiscation facility please feel free to contact me and we can arrange a time to do this. Once an inspection is made, your outside record could be verified by a repeat visit should you chose to do so. In other words, items in our confiscation facility will always be there. More may be added, but nothing will be removed.

Please feel free to ask for any clarification.


Thanks for the prompt reply, Pilot Momaki.

So, you have a stockpile of drugs that are doing nothing but taking up space in your storage facilities?
I can't help but think that all that space could be used for food, beds or medical supplies.

Then there is the issue of legality; I'm sure your rescue crews have better things to do than pay fines to Customs.

And I completely understand that you would not want to besmirch your good name by selling them onto a third party for a profit.

Pilot Momaki, would you be interested in a professional service to assist with the disposal of these substances?
I can assure you that you would not be charged for such a service and it may possibly open the doors to discuss your security issues (I've just noticed a little hostility towards your operations recently).

Karynn Denton

Caravan Master

Taisia Zaytseva
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#1369 - 2014-02-10 18:57:02 UTC
So, the slavers also maintain a full arsenal? This just gets better and better.
You're kidnapping people, brainwashing them and you've just admitted you have guns for all.
Hot diggety damn, you want to come write propaganda for us? Everyone is still convinced you're just some kind soul.
Gosakumori Noh
End Of Mankind
#1370 - 2014-02-10 19:06:30 UTC
Hmmm. The Cartel has disavowed (direct) knowledge of DSTON's work, and there are piles of narcotics lying around... snake people!

Snake people with guns!

I've recently been wondering why the snake people didn't get more love. I was just looking in all the wrong places! Well, now, this is certainly one way to settle a worm hole.
Taisia Zaytseva
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#1371 - 2014-02-10 19:10:22 UTC
The GIA disavows knowledge of pretty much everything. I mean, to this day, they maintain that BOB "slipped in the shower." So, yeah, why would you believe the Cartel? "Oh, those drug smuggling slavers, yeah, they aren't us."
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#1372 - 2014-02-10 19:15:22 UTC
Taisia Zaytseva wrote:
So, the slavers also maintain a full arsenal? This just gets better and better.
You're kidnapping people, brainwashing them and you've just admitted you have guns for all.
Hot diggety damn, you want to come write propaganda for us? Everyone is still convinced you're just some kind soul.

To be fair, everyone with half a brain has a full arsenal. "Offer one hand, arm the other" and all that. Just because they run a charity doesn't mean they have to be completely powerless to defend themselves.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#1373 - 2014-02-10 19:20:13 UTC
Karynn Denton wrote:
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So, you have a stockpile of drugs that are doing nothing but taking up space in your storage facilities?
I can't help but think that all that space could be used for food, beds or medical supplies.


How did I know this might be the response from one who self identifies as a booster smuggler. Drug confiscations are a "tiny" portion of our confiscation work. Confiscations are kept completely separate from our Matriculations Centers. They are in separate stations. The weapons, ammo, and drugs we confiscate will never be used again. Not even the materials they are made of will be used again. They are in perpetual storage, so no, you can't have them, Ms. Denton. That said we are happy to arrange verification through a third party acceptable to both of us if you so desire. We are quite happy with our security arrangements in all our station environments, but thanks for the offer.

Rescue Report:

116.02.10 18:56 Zordor Rock 13 people, DARR Max 21 former slaves, 2 slavers

Two deathcans with 36 survivors were found on this patrol. All are OK.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace

Gosakumori Noh
End Of Mankind
#1374 - 2014-02-10 19:25:28 UTC
Taisia Zaytseva wrote:
The GIA disavows knowledge of pretty much everything. I mean, to this day, they maintain that BOB "slipped in the shower." So, yeah, why would you believe the Cartel? "Oh, those drug smuggling slavers, yeah, they aren't us."


Leopold is the kindest most sincere and compassionate... well, no. I do however believe that the Cartel likes its plausible deniability. And the snake people really do handle the drugs. The Cartel provides those nicely curved buttocks from which to inhale those drugs.

Moreover, Bob did slip in the shower. He pointed the nozzle at the wall to get out of the stream while soaping his back, and then there was some kind of explosion, and he slid abruptly to one side. I saw it all on my... what's that? We don't record the showers? Of course we... oh. Fine.

I wonder when the water bill in Feythabolis comes due. History's inexorable march marches on.
Tahrmal Nalthkh
Disciples of Ston
#1375 - 2014-02-10 22:02:09 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Rescue Report:

116.02.10 21:35 Concendo 10 rescued

This rescue was conducted while holding a shake down cruise in the newly commissioned DSS Plowshare. I am quite pleased with the ship and we have received dispensation to use it for rescue work as well as confiscation work. It is significantly more nimble than the Assist though with a slightly smaller passenger capacity.


*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

Dr. Tahrmal Nalthkh CEO, DSTON Rescue Pilot

Gosakumori Noh
End Of Mankind
#1376 - 2014-02-10 22:23:57 UTC
Ah, now I believe I see the outline of the plot. DSTON did not "rescue" a group of "doomed" kameiras, but instead abducted them before the vessel assigned to their recovery could make necessary intake arrangements. This behavior is consistent with the less-than-benevolent tactics employed against miners in earlier days.

The bee appears correct.

How many other "rescued" individuals were in fact going to be picked up by the parties responsible for their circumstances, but were instead abducted in the middle of operations by an interloping band of Serpentis lackeys?
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
#1377 - 2014-02-10 22:48:59 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#1378 - 2014-02-11 00:44:37 UTC
Re-Enslavement Report:
2014-02-09 03:41 12 Slaves
2014-02-10 01:36 18 Slaves

Every person, everywhere, shall glorify God.

Most shall glorify God only in their destruction, whether that be in this life or the next.

But the 30 Slaves listed above have another path open to them — redemption through service to God's Chosen, the Amarr Empire. To start them on their journey, they were chained, collared, stuffed full of Vitoc, and sold back into slavery. Amen. Amarr Victor.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#1379 - 2014-02-11 02:01:11 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Re-Enslavement Report:
2014-02-09 03:41 12 Slaves
2014-02-10 01:36 18 Slaves

Every person, everywhere, shall glorify God.

Most shall glorify God only in their destruction, whether that be in this life or the next.

But the 30 Slaves listed above have another path open to them — redemption through service to God's Chosen, the Amarr Empire. To start them on their journey, they were chained, collared, stuffed full of Vitoc, and sold back into slavery. Amen. Amarr Victor.

Glory to me! Amen. Claudia Victor.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Eran Mintor
Furtherance.
#1380 - 2014-02-11 02:04:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Eran Mintor
If a slave owner abandons their slaves on a busy stargate, is that the same as freeing slaves?

If these slaves are disowned by their masters, does that no longer make them slaves?

If these slaves are abandoned in space outside of the Amarr Empire, would enslavers be breaking Amarrian law by capturing people outside of their boundaries?

If these slaves are no longer property of their previous master, what right would anyone (according to Amarrian law) have to resell them on the market?

If you don't own these slaves, how can you sell what is not yours?

I'd like to hear your answers as it sounds to me like you're a simple thief and a criminal of Amarr, Nauplius. While the same could be said of DSTON, I imagine you have more to lose by a tarnishing of your standings with the Empire.

-Eran