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Corporations, Wardecs, and yet another thread about them.

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Nylith Empyreal
Sutar Rein
#21 - 2012-03-03 19:50:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Nylith Empyreal
Velicitia wrote:
CONCORD stuff

It's not much (any) of the backstory, but it'll probably help you.

As for CONCORD (technically, the DED) being able to insta-kill us ... if we could tank them (again), groups like m0o would lock-down Jita or something (again). Not saying this is a bad thing per se...


Well the proposal isn't in regards to nerfing concord, it's merely setting up a side mechanic in regards to solving the wardec issue and that of griefers etc. No where is concord nerf'd at all. Simply it's nullifying their jurisdiction by joining directly with an Empire versus being your own sovreign. In way to negate griefing, not losing it completely mind you, and it could very well icnrease through this method, strictly depending on how CCP wishes to increase empire rats in turn, while losing complete roam through all empires, sure you can't be dec'd by being in a bigger empire, but you can't go into the other's for the reasons they're at War.

Edit: Looking at the brief overview given, and in particular to maintaining peace are the empires not at War? Or is it something along the lines of too afraid to broaden the front of petty skirmishes through lowsec? Surely a titan holding a planet hostage would by no means be holding back one's power. Hell, if they continue with this war route or if they atleast wish to expand upon it, they could easily have the titan go off to incite and further ignite those fronts and add to it this mechanic / proposal. Seeing as they are working on FW and wardec mechanics this is the best time as any.

But I admit i have no idea what stages the war currently is in, I haven't heard anything beyond the initial caldari titan holding the planet hostage and petty skirmishes in lowsec. Can anyone enlighten?

Looking back at the wiki, the Concord article is fairly vague and foreboding versus absolute. I can't see how they are holding perfect control over space when the empires are at each other's throats and in no doubts engaging in more seedier play- To which I'll go striaght back to the Titan arguement, wouldn't the caldari be forced out of concord etc. for glassing a planet mostly of civilians? i know there was a story in regards to the panic'd populace below.

Who's the more foolish the fool or the fool who replies to him?

Velicitia
XS Tech
#22 - 2012-03-03 21:14:31 UTC
My comment about nerfing CONCORD was in response to you stating they weren't always "as powerful as they are now" (and something about WOW ... you should feel ashamed for that Blink). That was a game mechanic fix, due completely to the fact that people COULD (and did) tank the concord ships, and locked down one of the largest trade routes in the game (at that time).

To be honest, you're seeming to get hung up on "things should be happening faster" ... and forgetting that CCP works in 6 month stretches in between expansions -- so, with that in mind, 6 months of real time don't equate to 6 months of (certain parts of) the backstory progressing. Sure, there may be some fluff news pieces (and chronicles, etc) from time to time ... but those were cut for a while, along with a lot of other things leading up to what is probably CCP's biggest fuckup ever (i.e. Incarna et al from last summer). In the interim between release and now, FW was never really fleshed out beyond "hey, kill each other in lowsec" (pretty much, because of Incarna et al).

There's a lot going on in the universe that's explained better in the books (Empyrean Age, and Templar One ... the second book [burning something or other] was more fluff than anything ... or at least I couldn't place it with what's been happening).

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Nylith Empyreal
Sutar Rein
#23 - 2012-03-03 21:27:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Nylith Empyreal
If it seems I'm in a rush, it was not my intentions. I at my current state have no benefit or loss from this idea, was merely an idea, the fact they're supposedly redoing fw / wardec mechanics this year sounded in benefit after I had stated the proposal. I don't see something like this happening at all until the end of this year at a minimum. But gives plenty of time to think about the idea. I suspect many people, of course I can be wrong, are in suspense at what the mechanic changes bring for the earliest expac to be in support for or against or even care of this idea.

I use to follow the news feeds a while back, I'm not even sure if they still exist beyond game announcements on the side bar. And yes i should be ashamed of the WoW comparison, but to my benefit linking something directly with wow can be a nice way to get it obliterated I hear Blink. I merely tease, but in any case, surely more is going on in this universe beyond alliance a versus b in nullsec, I don't see anything in regards to fw on the forums aside frog / squid call out threads. What about the Amarr / Min, what about the pirates in nullsec, surely they must be optimizing or taking advantage of concords distraction of the Sansha incursions.

Edit: As an added thought, those who do not wish for FW to become SOV oriented could easily join the more administration part of the Empire and continue doing what they're doing that way, hell give the option for them to affect empire sov too, slightly, in a way to encourage lite PVP etc. as well in the process. While also giving that sov 'lite' aspect in the other as CCP wanted.

Who's the more foolish the fool or the fool who replies to him?

Nylith Empyreal
Sutar Rein
#24 - 2012-03-04 17:07:30 UTC
And a bump; truly someone has a firm stance on this? I know we get them once a day/week, but surely something about each appeals enough to form something collective, even if not of my own proposal.

Who's the more foolish the fool or the fool who replies to him?

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