Player Features and Ideas Discussion

We always see these circle jerks of real world and game comparisons. Ie. that whole Allies / Axis having to meet one another in terms of surrender and then it's about risk reward, nothing should be 'free'. As someone who loves history I'll always lean to realism, but I can agree nothing should be free and you should be safe no where.

We have four major empires, I have no idea why they would allow combat within their own zones and without their sanctions, honestly **** concord, who the hell follows this geneva crap? Do you really think the Amarr empress is really going to go 'ok' these two corps that have declared war on each other to happen in her borders? I apologize I'm probably losing you on this political bullshit but it's stands.

It is of my proposition to give made corps in a sense, two options. One that demands affiliation with an empire, and simple put one that doesn't. You're going to point straight to Faction warfare and they should join this subjugation for the proposing purpose, but not every branch of a nation is 'waring' we got the banks etc. surely they're funding the war, but these fat bastards aren't in it.

While the navies battle one another in lowsec, they would be in essence in highsec, to which I propose a complete 'lessening' of the faction 'security' wnere both business in opposing empires would be at constant war and of course to the opposing navies. The benefit they have scaling protection, an opposing fleet is going to lose muscle after wedging itself deep into highsec to pop a miner, but this at the same time barricades and reduces their movements to which they are in essence locked into two empires, but safe within their respective borders. You are not perfectly safe, this will encourage a larger front in regards to the war, but I don't think the caldari navy gave two ***** when they shuved a titan up the gallente's ass. But you're protector by a scaling navy, in the sense of wear and tear of incoming hostiles, should an outside bystander seek to engage one of these skirmishes they are declaring war with the empire shot, and will have to pay accordingly in regards to peace(this assuming they chose to opt. out of empire bit).

No, I do not suggest electing an alliance lord of the gallente federation like the navy as ccp seems to wish. They like any corporation in an established world do what they can in the legal bindings they reside. Now given that it would essentially limit you to base amongst your nation and your nations ally, and you can be willingly shot by the aggressing empire. You cannot be wardec'd by your own militia or your allies militia.

The original concept was that you cannot wardec one another, as it would be silly for an empire to allow infighting. I'm sure one could argue whoever pays the most to the authorities about might turn a blinds eye for a moment or two, but intelligence will catch you eventually. But like npc corps require a tax, you're going to have to pay for the navy that protects you and all the other penny pinching the empires are willing to turn your upside down upon. I'm sure the price and percent can be negotiable, depending on the strength deemed crucial to the different navies by ccp. Hell could even make it based on what the various corps are willing to put in on average and that will strengthen or lessen the rats. Combinations of the federation and the militia contributing to the empire for it's security.

For those who opt out the empire choice, you're concord's list of self declared entities. You may roam freely where ever you want within the empires and wardec each other to whatever desire, you may even wardec an empires corp, but you'll have to deal with their navy if you seek such, and will effect standings as such. Minmatar will tolerate your war only to a point as it is now with basic missions. As with indirect help via missions etc.

i think it's pointless to discuss the mechanics specifically other than saying that any 'duck-dodge' abilities will now be scrapped under this system. You're not completely protected in any fashion(not that you were much now given a dedicated group.) But the odds are in your favor to contribute to the space you chose to live in, and truly make it all player driven.
This is my suggestion on what should be done, I played eve on and off, I don't claim to be utterly and completely knowledgeable. In regards to niche things like suicide ganking, well they have to make the trip through every security ridden gate to get to you, and that stealth is unphased, a dedicated group should be able to stealth there way in and apply terrorism as needed.

I'm sure I'm missing something, no I'm not doing a TLDR I welcome anyone to do so though, though I'm sure it'll be troll-like. It matters not to me truly if this is favored or not, I'll deal, I think it adds a spice and removes this dec dodging and reward/risk bs. No i'm not an alt, I sold my main 'Rakwa' and decided to reroll. Alts don't look this good

My biased is to real world tendancies, I wont lie, and it's been a while since I've read any of the short stories. In either case I was trying to divide as much of it as I could to both hinder and support. I'm all too well welcome of suggestions.

Really, why are we even created then in their empire if we're uncontrollable? Or is it some private service. It's been a while since I've read into pod pilot origins.

Fair enough, but truly given the current state know all to well of power and by organization seek to take which is already established? And by extension the pod pilots patriotically inclined would rise to aid them? I understand it's all in mechanics at this point, i doubt ccp will go outright say we can conquer highsec places thus making them nullsec.

But they do have plans as I remember it to make both fw and nullsec sov the same thus allowing the conquering of both planes, I see why not this wouldn't broaden the war and force said empires to want these massive pod pilot corps to join their empire in exchange for protection. NPC corps I would just leave as is, undeckable etc etc. I would suggest starting us out in concord controlled agencies, but that is a new section of changing tutorials and what have you.

I like the gist of your proposal, though it does yearn for some smoothing between the lore and mechanics.

However, I think you would find it difficult to get much of the highsec community on board for such a massive change.

Ironically, I expect more of the highsec bear population to oppose this as a highsec nerf, while the people it really hurts the most are the wardec-griefers. Corporations don't have to declare, and thus can move around freely and go about their business as they always have. Missioning corps, and mining corps that don't see the need to travel much, can declare and continue their highsec ISK train in near complete safety... suicide ganks still happen, but no more decs ruining their ops.

I think this benefits the majority of the players, mechanic wise. This also makes the game much more immersive, and creates a conflict system that makes a lot more sense than the indiscriminate slaughter-fest that currently goes on inside empire borders.

This gets a +1 from me.

Bump

No kidding? That was a decision made to ease the load on servers and to promote grander feet fights, doesn't mean nothing else can't be realistic. Ugh, why am I arguing you didn't even read beyond a paragraph or two.

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, how foolish of me.

Now now, though none have taken a stance against there are certainly none in uproar for it's proposal. And yes, I know not to feed the trolls, but I took it as a chance to bump the topic a bit. That said always welcome to see more support, or atleast activity, good or bad. Don't jinx it yet.

Does not mean they cannot lose said influence due to shakey ties in truce and interaction with capsuleers, and they do not hold a significant amount of sov / fleet power to engage everyone let alone a mixed coalition.

In regards to them one shotting ships, they use to not have that kind of power and they technically aren't that powerful, CCP uses them in regards as guards in way WoW has guards protecting Light's Hope chapel, though they were level 40 and now 85 it doesn't detract that they are still just guards and no more.