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Vorstellung
Plan.B
#61 - 2012-02-29 09:09:57 UTC

well, gogo launcher... if it makes a fluent update process its the right direcion to go.
i always thought patching works sloppy with eve.

BUT IF YOU ALREADY ON IT PUT THE DAMN LOGINSCREEN+CHAR SELECTION RIGHT INTO THE LAUNCHER AS WELL.

noone want to click their way through launcer + eula + login + (client update every couple day) char selecttion just to play the game for a few min (lets say industry!) and then have to quit it all together and rinse repeat cos eve online FAILED to make it possible to return to char selection.

and if possible: keep the advertisements at zero! its annoyingly lot enough right as it is now!


PS.
dear ccp. pls have look into WoW and see how login and UI is done 'well designed' :)
Vorstellung
Plan.B
#62 - 2012-02-29 09:13:05 UTC
Xailia wrote:
If/When you add P2P support, please please please add a setting in the config to throttle to a specified upload speed and/or autothrottle

Other launchers frequently don't have this setting, and so I just turn P2P off so my upload doesn't get saturated.

Smoking Blunts wrote:
so, they have decided to make it even more anoying to patch multiple clients than now,

Wait, so you have separate installs for each client you run? You know the client maintains separate app data for each account, right?



one need to do so if want to run clients on different displays or different processor cores..

many have more then 1 install on a computer
Aramis Lynx
Udarnaya Brigada
#63 - 2012-02-29 09:42:44 UTC
I love it. I've been wanting an auto update feature for a while. Good job. Big smile
Hustomte
Veritex Industrial Inc.
#64 - 2012-02-29 13:49:15 UTC
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...as well as integrating peer-to-peer technology for downloads, rather than relying solely upon our content delivery network.


This is a BAD idea, I pay for my data (as you go) so sharing my install with others would tax me.
Please don't tax me CCP Cry

At least give us the ability to opt-out of that "feature" thanks.

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Creat Posudol
German Oldies
#65 - 2012-02-29 14:56:35 UTC
CCP Atropos wrote:
Sarmatiko wrote:

It seems there is no way you can revert option "Only display launcher window when there is an update" without editing/deleting settings file. Not much can be done there but I predict some noob frustrations in future.

Heh, yea, you can unset it in the yaml file, but that's not a nice thing to do. If you've got ideas for a nice way to allow the user to open it up, I'm all ears.


How about this: make this the only option available in the client, at the very least when it's active.
As a backup option (for when the client can't start for some reason which the launcher might be able to fix) there are two options:

  1. If the launcher starts and detects (from log files or whatever) that the client was unable to start, it shows itself automatically
  2. Create an additional shortcut in the start menu which resets this option for the launcher via command line switch (like /noautolaunch ) and name it "EVE Launcher force start" or "EVE Launcher (safe mode)" or something.
CCP Cascade
#66 - 2012-02-29 17:14:36 UTC
Hustomte wrote:
Quote:
...as well as integrating peer-to-peer technology for downloads, rather than relying solely upon our content delivery network.


This is a BAD idea, I pay for my data (as you go) so sharing my install with others would tax me.
Please don't tax me CCP Cry

At least give us the ability to opt-out of that "feature" thanks.


As I wrote in another thread:

Quote:
P2P is still one of those features that might come in the future, hopefully the not too distant future, but still we're quite far away from it right now. When implementing it, we will make sure that the user has full visibility and control over what is done and that nobody sneaking away with your bandwidth without you knowing.

Associate Technical Producer - Core Technology Group
NERVik
Adeptus Mechanicus Departmento Manufacturum
VooDoo Technologies
#67 - 2012-02-29 19:34:17 UTC  |  Edited by: NERVik
NERVik
Adeptus Mechanicus Departmento Manufacturum
VooDoo Technologies
#68 - 2012-02-29 19:36:38 UTC  |  Edited by: NERVik
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HGPower
ODINS Burg
#69 - 2012-02-29 20:51:11 UTC
i cant update no Sisi launcher get alwys this report

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "SisiLauncher.py", line 404, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7978, in __init__
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7552, in _BootstrapApp
File "SisiLauncher.py", line 371, in OnInit
File "SisiLauncher.py", line 325, in __init__
File "SisiLauncher.py", line 68, in __init__
File "SisiLauncher.py", line 161, in UpdateTheButton
File "SisiLauncher.py", line 172, in GetButtonAction
File "utils.pyc", line 75, in GetTqBuildNumber
File "utils.pyc", line 58, in GetServerBuildNumber
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'groups'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "SisiLauncher.py", line 404, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7978, in __init__
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7552, in _BootstrapApp
File "SisiLauncher.py", line 371, in OnInit
File "SisiLauncher.py", line 325, in __init__
File "SisiLauncher.py", line 68, in __init__
File "SisiLauncher.py", line 161, in UpdateTheButton
File "SisiLauncher.py", line 172, in GetButtonAction
File "utils.pyc", line 75, in GetTqBuildNumber
File "utils.pyc", line 58, in GetServerBuildNumber
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'groups'
Dr Prometheus
Gears of Construction
Gears Confederation
#70 - 2012-02-29 21:30:18 UTC
Just a small request; STAY AWAY FROM MY BOOT.INI !

Dude, where is my Quafe Megathron?
Einar Matveinen
Mahe Ratu
#71 - 2012-02-29 23:43:47 UTC
I've problems with new launcher.exe and antivirus software, antivirus always detects the executable have been modified and prevents its execution. I allowed the program in antivirus software for execution but i can't execute laucher.exe with my antivirus running. When i update another programs i can allow them for executing when they're updated without problems.

Any ideas?
Texty
State War Academy
Caldari State
#72 - 2012-03-01 07:59:38 UTC
Very minor localization issue (Japanese).

The launcher window title bar says "EVE オンラインランチャー " which appears like it's "An online launcher of EVE".
Something like "EVE Online ランチャー" will be fine I guess.
CCP Shiny
C C P
C C P Alliance
#73 - 2012-03-01 12:49:22 UTC
Texty wrote:
Very minor localization issue (Japanese).

The launcher window title bar says "EVE オンラインランチャー " which appears like it's "An online launcher of EVE".
Something like "EVE Online ランチャー" will be fine I guess.


Thank you for the feedback! I have entered a bugreport for this.

CCP Shiny \ Producer NES Localization Services \ @ccp_shiny
Alouette Bistrot
Sentinel Event
Hatakani Trade Winds Combine
#74 - 2012-03-01 17:21:57 UTC
the launcher patched my sisi client to the tranquility version and tries to connect to tranquility.

Running a Mac, none of the manual configuration stuff works for pointing it to the right server.
Anterous
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#75 - 2012-03-01 17:28:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Anterous
Sisi Updater not working for me ;-(

I tried updating the client hat worked last week, got the new launcher. It started downloading and tried to patch before throwing an exception.

I then copied a new fresh version of my main eve folder and tried again.

Same result, exception thrown after patch download.

The data shown:

Exception during UpdaterModule.Update
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "lib\update.pyc", line 522, in Update
File "lib\update.pyc", line 568, in _Update
File "lib\update.pyc", line 295, in __init__
File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 1280, in __init__
UnpicklingError: invalid load key, 'Ÿ'.


Now doing a fresh install from sisi downloader, any thoughts on the above?
Ordais
DARK ORCHESTRA
#76 - 2012-03-01 17:53:38 UTC
It's been a week, and i still get redirected to TQ .....

Let me force the client on sisi please, somehow....or get rid of this thing, its aggravating me. Everything worked fine and my Corp extensivly used the Testserver, now its just a mess.
Roderic Kane
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#77 - 2012-03-01 19:11:35 UTC
I got a similar error after the download.
Unfortunately the forum keeps telling me "The input may not contain HTML" so I can just post the first part of the error log What?

Exception during UpdaterModule.Update
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "lib\update.pyc", line 522, in Update
File "lib\update.pyc", line 568, in _Update
File "lib\update.pyc", line 295, in __init__
File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 1280, in __init__
ValueError: insecure string pickle

And then ... bad HTML stuff
Tamborius
Die grauen Panther
#78 - 2012-03-01 22:35:54 UTC
Don't know if this was reported before,
but every other day when I use the Sisi Launcher Tool,
all my Settings are reset, starting the Client on Fullscreen in German and with the Intro playing.
Every shortcut and overview setting is gone too or resettet to standart.

Apart from that I like the Launcher and the update funktion,
but an option to start multiple clients should be added,
since most players I know run more than one Account

Farewell Tam
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#79 - 2012-03-01 22:41:07 UTC
Tamborius wrote:
Don't know if this was reported before,
but every other day when I use the Sisi Launcher Tool,
all my Settings are reset, starting the Client on Fullscreen in German and with the Intro playing.
Every shortcut and overview setting is gone too or resettet to standart.

Apart from that I like the Launcher and the update funktion,
but an option to start multiple clients should be added,
since most players I know run more than one Account

Farewell Tam

OS?

Where is your short cut located.
I have never had this problem.
If I create a new short cut that is what happens though.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Seamus Donohue
EVE University
Ivy League
#80 - 2012-03-01 22:43:43 UTC
If the Launcher is going to be mandatory with manual patching no longer possible, then it is essential that the Launcher be able to support patching multiple Tranquility and Singularity clients. In other words, users need to be able to download a single Tranquility patch and use that one patch file to update multiple EVE Online clients on multiple machines. Ditto for Singularity. If this isn't easier than or as easy as the current patching method, then that's a showstopper. Case in point, I missed today's Mass Test because the Launcher got in my way.

Perhaps a video DevBlog explaining how the Launcher is supposed to work would be in order?

Survivor of Teskanen.  Fan of John Rourke.

I have video tutorials for EVE Online on my YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/SeamusDonohueEVE