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Feedback thread: Launcher on Singularity

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Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
Goonswarm Federation
#41 - 2012-02-28 21:55:46 UTC
Salpun wrote:
Smoking Blunts wrote:
so im now gonna have to load 7 launchers before i can use my 7 clients?

you are shitting me right?


No



so, they have decided to make it even more anoying to patch multiple clients than now,

/me smacks head against wall.

OMG when can i get a pic here

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
SLYCE Pirates
#42 - 2012-02-28 21:57:14 UTC
Menzisu Uiru wrote:
When I try to run the launcher I get an error saying I don't have permission, even though this is (as far as I know) the main user account for the my computer. The launcher runs if I log in on the administrator account, though.

As far as I can tell my user account should have full access. I guess I'm just a windows newb, help would be appreciated.


On the short cut you create to use the launcher, right click and enable the admin rights. Once you do you will see a seal on the shortcut.

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Zaotome
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-02-28 22:07:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Zaotome
i think the launcher is a good thing and have some great potential^^

support for multiple clients would be awesome Big smile
a list of accounts / passwords and a button to "log em in"

additionally setting the positions of the windowed clients would be nice

i always dreamt of sending the client startparameters like:

-user: user // automatic fill in the username
-pass: password // for easy login (ok, great risk if a bad person gets hold of your desktoplink, batchfile or script)
-noborders // tell the client to run in windowed mode, but without the windowborders
-posx1 xxx -posy1 xxx // to set the top left position of the client-window
-posx2 xxx -posy2 xxx // to set the bottom right position of the client-window

edit: maybe a single launcher (read: patcher) for TQ and Sisi would help bring more players to the testingsessions?
Xailia
Unsteady Corporation
#44 - 2012-02-28 23:03:33 UTC
If/When you add P2P support, please please please add a setting in the config to throttle to a specified upload speed and/or autothrottle

Other launchers frequently don't have this setting, and so I just turn P2P off so my upload doesn't get saturated.

Smoking Blunts wrote:
so, they have decided to make it even more anoying to patch multiple clients than now,

Wait, so you have separate installs for each client you run? You know the client maintains separate app data for each account, right?

The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel.

Lodocran
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-02-28 23:12:02 UTC
So much potential with the launcher. It simplifies updates a bit, but it's not really needed as it is. But the potential! :D

During one of the many barinstorming meetings concerning the EVE Launcher, please consider including letting us browse the system maps from the launcher. And maybe even a fitting tool for ships. The fitting tool is already essentia for serious players to plan out stats and possibilities for their ships, so it's sad that EVE don't have one.

As a GIS scientist, please please, remember the map idea.

"The most persistent principles of the universe are accident and error."

Serum
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#46 - 2012-02-28 23:18:13 UTC
Am I the only one that enjoyed the animated launcher that we currently have? Makes the game feel majestic when I see the current launcher. This launcher just doesn't set itself apart from the other MMOs on the market. Old one was different from everything else. I am sure that you have heard this feedback before...
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
SLYCE Pirates
#47 - 2012-02-28 23:23:18 UTC
Serum wrote:
Am I the only one that enjoyed the animated launcher that we currently have? Makes the game feel majestic when I see the current launcher. This launcher just doesn't set itself apart from the other MMOs on the market. Old one was different from everything else. I am sure that you have heard this feedback before...

Log in and launcher are diffrent things but I see your point

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PinkKnife
The Cuddlefish
Ethereal Dawn
#48 - 2012-02-28 23:53:32 UTC  |  Edited by: PinkKnife
Love it, I think it is pretty, and I want to have the babies with it.

OH, the ability to delete an account from my list of accounts? I didn't know the one time I logged in for a friend of mine meant I had to stare at his stupid account name in my pretty list for the rest of eternity.

LET ME DELETE IT!
FireusI
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-02-28 23:58:57 UTC
I like to be able to log off one char and onto another with out having to retype passwords all the time.

We have 3 slots for 3 chars so why not let us when we choose to log off take us back to the char screen to choose the next char we would like to log onto.

Instead of having to keep retyping passwords to log back in to the alt char that u want to log onto next.

( I know loads may not like this idea but it works very well in WoW )

Yes i said it world of warcraft but it WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!

I sure the Eve guys and girls could make this very easy to do
Wot Dragon
Dragon's Inc
#50 - 2012-02-29 00:31:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Wot Dragon
Meadowvale wrote:
Any attempt to launch Singularity using eve.exe or launcher.exe produces error message:
The logfile "C:\Program Files(86)\CCP\Singularity\launcher\launcher.exe.log" could not be opened.
[Errno 13] Permission denied "C:\\Program Files(86)\\CCP\\Singularity\\launcher\\launcher.exe.log"

Help plsCry

UPDATE:
Bug hunter team advise to run launcher as administrator
Launcher updates to beta version and game runsBig smile


Have same error on Win7. Win XP previously updated without the error.

Problem if the folder's rights where log attempt to be created. During launcher folder creation permissions for change should be provided to the current user/user what ever user/admin has. But I think log should be created somewhere else.

After fixing the problem launcher still run eve with wrong environment: license agreement displayed.
Direct run eve.exe via old shortcut show same launcher screen, but start eve with right environment: without license agreement and with old login and settings.

In common, when all bugs will be killed, I want to see
- once download for all clients in the home network.
broadcasting downloaded or downloading the patch and avoid new downloading fro another PC in the local network.
- save user/pass for account, has ability to save multiple account data. Open characters in account and show and make possible to run any characters on the proper logged account after first login. Ability to remove unused account from eve start screen. Ability to easy run another char for logged account.
Quanton Sjet
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#51 - 2012-02-29 01:16:04 UTC
If I may, would it be possible for the launcher to have a drop down menu similar to the account selection drop down menu on the log in screen?

What I'm getting at, is if you run dual or more accounts on multiple monitors, you have your main account set up with predefined settings so when you press the launch button, it opens on your main monitor, when you then open the launcher for a second time to launch the second account, you simply choose the second character from the list (of which settings are predefined to start in the second monitor) and press launch and you have both accounts ready on their respective monitors and the ALT toons audio muted, brackets off, etc, etc....

a drop down menu is not even necessary, you can simply have icons for each account which, right click and choose launch, it does NOT close the launcher...

so you rightclick your MAIN and choose launch, (the launcher stays open) after which you simply left click the second (ALT) icon of which the launcher closes and the ALT (with its rules and settings) launches on the second monitor.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-02-29 01:55:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdiel Kavash
Quote:
You can chose to only show the Launcher if there is an update to the game.

This is the only reason I don't hate you right now. I see absolutely no purpose of making the user click two buttons instead of one to start the game. First the shortcut on your desktop, then the Play button of the launcher.

Just because every other WoW clone MMO does it doesn't mean it makes a bit of sense.

If you want to download patches without starting the client window, then download patches before you run the client in a neat little windows-style window, then close it and start the game automatically when the patch is done. Don't shove another pointless screen in our face for no good reason.
Marcus Caspius
#53 - 2012-02-29 02:29:00 UTC
What would really make life SSSSOoooooo much easier if there was a way to set the monitor where the client should move to/launch in without the need for the current Click-fest. I run 5 account (15 toons) and getting them onto the right monitor is such a pain.

Maybe a graphical representation of the monitor set-up that will allow me to launch on the current screen or with a single click determine which monitor the client should be on launched on...

Also what about the ability to swap Toons on the same account without the need to re-log. Other modern apps allow you to switch profiles without re-authenticating e.g. accounting systems, ERPs etc.

Grammatical error and spelling mistakes are included for your entertainment!

Marcus Caspius
#54 - 2012-02-29 02:33:11 UTC
StevieTopSiders wrote:
Looking at the screenshots on the dev blog, I do not see a clock. A clock on the launcher that displays the current Eve time and date would be awesome, and save a lot of trouble often resulting from USTZ op times. (2:00 on Sunday.... I mean Saturday.)


Its called Windows gadgets and the UTC tz = EVE Time... It's not hard.

Grammatical error and spelling mistakes are included for your entertainment!

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#55 - 2012-02-29 03:08:18 UTC
No one cares. Fix the overview.
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
SLYCE Pirates
#56 - 2012-02-29 03:15:05 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
No one cares. Fix the overview.

"Fix"Twisted When you say something that generic you got to say what you want.

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See you around the universe.

Vanessa Vansen
Vandeo
#57 - 2012-02-29 05:33:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Vanessa Vansen
Bring it on and give us a way to try.

I hope it does include something like the things mentioned here:
Multiple Clients
for those working with symbolic links on Mac OS X
Mara Skye
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
Didn't want that Sov anyway.
#58 - 2012-02-29 06:27:15 UTC
Quoting from the article:

Quote:
One reason for using a Launcher for doing updates is we can get away from having to start EVE Online client up, then shut it down while the update is being applied and then starting EVE Online back up. It's wasteful, and a little bit confusing, to have to spend time on starting up the game, in order to detect we need a patch and to download it, then to shut it down immediately afterwards so that the patch can be applied.


Just out of curiosity, are there any plans to change the client itself so that it doesn't shut down when you log off? Say if you want to switch to another character or possibly a seperate account, it's (to quote you) wasteful and a little bit confusing as to why the game has to shut down in order to do this.
Mortis Umbra
The Arrow Project
#59 - 2012-02-29 07:18:43 UTC
Ditch the default windows borders. I don't know what it is but the launchers portal to the game makes all the difference to realism. Recently downloaded STO and i didn't feel like i was entering a different "world" at all.

P.S, make eve use no borders aswell :)
Yichy Aoen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-02-29 08:55:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Yichy Aoen
Well the new launcher looks very good but i have 13 accs and the most of all other player have up 2 or even more.

Every fakking single **** "klick" is time i need to log in so give me and all the other gamers and even Multiboxing tools like Isboxxer the chance to use the old one or think practis and not in shiny **** that dont work. Sad