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ehm CCP, rookie ships? really?
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Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#41 - 2012-02-22 18:12:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Valentyn3
Nova Fox wrote:
Valentyn3 wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
You cannot buy a second first impression.


People also hate bait and switch. Going from the new Tengu Hookbill hybrid to the Bantam or Condor is going to induce much WTF.


And they know what a tengu is on day one?


You can look up the appearance and base stats of any player available ship in the game, in the game itself. It's not my fault if they have no sense of curiosity.

And I really wasn't talking about it working like a Tengu so much as it obviously sharing the shape of a Hookbill with the Caldari style they came up with for the Tengu. In other words it looks sleek, organic and advanced. This isn't really something you see in Caldari ships until you hit the Scorpion, Raven or Tengu.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#42 - 2012-02-22 19:22:53 UTC
Valentyn3 wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
Valentyn3 wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
You cannot buy a second first impression.


People also hate bait and switch. Going from the new Tengu Hookbill hybrid to the Bantam or Condor is going to induce much WTF.


And they know what a tengu is on day one?


You can look up the appearance and base stats of any player available ship in the game, in the game itself. It's not my fault if they have no sense of curiosity.

And I really wasn't talking about it working like a Tengu so much as it obviously sharing the shape of a Hookbill with the Caldari style they came up with for the Tengu. In other words it looks sleek, organic and advanced. This isn't really something you see in Caldari ships until you hit the Scorpion, Raven or Tengu.


Or the Naga or any other new art director ships.

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Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#43 - 2012-02-22 19:33:09 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
You cannot buy a second first impression.


If your first impression is limited to the look of a starting ship you will replace inside of an hour then I say good riddance... Wasting hundreds of combined man hours on these ships is beyond pointless...

However having said that, they do look much improved.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#44 - 2012-02-22 20:08:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
You cannot buy a second first impression.


If your first impression is limited to the look of a starting ship you will replace inside of an hour then I say good riddance... Wasting hundreds of combined man hours on these ships is beyond pointless...

However having said that, they do look much improved.



As an ex pvper I cannot recall how many times I had to spent flying a velator somewhere and playing fox hole against my would be pursuers. It was most always enjoyable getting two rival gangs to slam into each other though.

And like I said if they upgrade the hardware of rookie ships to no longer REQUIRE the other ships to be issued then you're going to have problems if you stuck with old model.

I have gone though an Eve where I was litterally in my rookie ship for the first two weeks because I coudlnt afford a tristan let alone have proper skills to fly it. This is also the same eve that then vet's told me tutorial? huh, when I joined eve there wasn't one.

NPE changes are so rapid I stopped testing them out now becuase they're ramming into each other and not making the agents happy.

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Doc Severide
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-02-22 20:10:09 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
You cannot buy a second first impression.

Can I buy a first second impression???

Reminds me of the joke:

For Men Only, what is the difference between anxiety and panic?

Anxiety is the first time you can't do it twice...

Panic is the second time you can't do it once !!!
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#46 - 2012-02-22 20:12:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
Doc Severide wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
You cannot buy a second first impression.

Can I buy a first second impression???

Reminds me of the joke:

For Men Only, what is the difference between anxiety and panic?

Anxiety is the first time you can't do it twice...

Panic is the second time you can't do it once !!!


you can buy a second one but those are generally expensive....

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On another note. CCP did declare they where going to redo EVERY ship. this probably will include shuttles to everyone's dismay.

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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#47 - 2012-02-22 20:16:11 UTC
gawd, art designers are not server gurus lmao do you expect architects to fix your water heater too? Roll

most of those newb ships look awful, good for CCP in realizing that if your going to start somewhere, start from the bottom. I'm sure the ART DEPARTMENT will be redesigning some more ships because they need to stay busy you know.......doing things like.....designing art.
Ettu Brute II
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2012-02-23 02:12:44 UTC
Written Word wrote:

They do look great, but its not like my time in them was really important
If getting started in EVE wasn't important to you I'm amazed that you're still here.

Nova Fox wrote:
And they know what a tengu is on day one?
I certainly did. I knew just about every sub-capital before I opened my first account. Doesn't make sense to enter a complex game like EVE without doing plenty of research, and learning the ship types is barely scratching the surface.

If that new Reaper becomes reality they'll have to do a similar re-vamp of all the other Minmatar ships or no new Minnie players will ever want to leave their rookie ships.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#49 - 2012-02-23 03:11:38 UTC
Ettu Brute II wrote:
If that new Reaper becomes reality they'll have to do a similar re-vamp of all the other Minmatar ships or no new Minnie players will ever want to leave their rookie ships.

Lies, the force with which the Hurricane hits is more than sufficient to leave a trail of shattered enemies, floating around like so much lifeless debris. An adaptable vessel, it has enough turret hardpoints for a full-scale assault while remaining versatile enough to allow for plenty of missile fire, and has both sufficient speed to outrun its enemies and sufficient capacitor charge to outlast them.

The Maelstrom looks great.

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Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#50 - 2012-02-23 04:29:44 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:



As an ex pvper I cannot recall how many times I had to spent flying a velator somewhere and playing fox hole against my would be pursuers. It was most always enjoyable getting two rival gangs to slam into each other though.


1/10
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#51 - 2012-02-23 05:00:59 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:



As an ex pvper I cannot recall how many times I had to spent flying a velator somewhere and playing fox hole against my would be pursuers. It was most always enjoyable getting two rival gangs to slam into each other though.


1/10


Hey ask any Executive Outcomes member back in the day why my call sign was 'Ship on Fira"

I may not have been a lethal pvper I was on of the more resiliant pilots at the time.

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Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#52 - 2012-02-23 05:04:30 UTC
Ettu Brute II wrote:
Written Word wrote:

They do look great, but its not like my time in them was really important
If getting started in EVE wasn't important to you I'm amazed that you're still here.

Nova Fox wrote:
And they know what a tengu is on day one?
I certainly did. I knew just about every sub-capital before I opened my first account. Doesn't make sense to enter a complex game like EVE without doing plenty of research, and learning the ship types is barely scratching the surface.

If that new Reaper becomes reality they'll have to do a similar re-vamp of all the other Minmatar ships or no new Minnie players will ever want to leave their rookie ships.


The Tornado.

'Nuff said.

I don't always use hax. But when I do, it's because I'm an NPC.. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg
Ettu Brute II
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2012-02-27 01:24:23 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Ettu Brute II wrote:
If that new Reaper becomes reality they'll have to do a similar re-vamp of all the other Minmatar ships or no new Minnie players will ever want to leave their rookie ships.

Lies, the force with which the Hurricane hits is more than sufficient to leave a trail of shattered enemies, floating around like so much lifeless debris. An adaptable vessel, it has enough turret hardpoints for a full-scale assault while remaining versatile enough to allow for plenty of missile fire, and has both sufficient speed to outrun its enemies and sufficient capacitor charge to outlast them.

The Maelstrom looks great.

Valentyn3 wrote:
Ettu Brute II wrote:
[quote=Written Word]
If that new Reaper becomes reality they'll have to do a similar re-vamp of all the other Minmatar ships or no new Minnie players will ever want to leave their rookie ships.


The Tornado.

'Nuff said.

Ok, I'll concede the Hurricane and Tornado, but not the Maelstrom - no way, it looks like something you might see in a tropical fish tank.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-02-27 01:28:21 UTC
St Mio wrote:
Those guys in the art department should have been fixing lag instead of making rookie ships look nice. Roll


Fixing lag i dont know what lag you have but you need to stop download porn or clean you computer from spyware lol.. The lag is only in caldari ( jita) because there is ¾ off the players there lol
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#55 - 2012-02-27 01:52:58 UTC
Ighten Dahma wrote:
Can see the arguments for but it does seem a bit bizarre to spend time on this.. You spend about 15mins in it before you trash it. And you hardly ever see one again... Lets hope they put as much love into the tutorials as that seems to be the biggest noob problem at the moment



I wonder how pissed off the people will get when they redo the shuttles. :D

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Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-02-27 01:58:41 UTC
Oh shiny new Ibis!

-Vix

SWA Instructor, Commander Select Currently being blamed as SWA's CEO SWA PVP Program
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-02-27 02:06:29 UTC
I said Rookie ships, not Cookie ships!
Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-02-27 02:09:31 UTC
Can we get Biscuit ships?

-Vix

SWA Instructor, Commander Select Currently being blamed as SWA's CEO SWA PVP Program
Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#59 - 2012-02-27 02:10:36 UTC
Stellar Vix wrote:
Can we get Biscuit ships?

-Vix


I demand fruitcake ships at xmas time.

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BIGTEX123
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2012-02-27 02:11:13 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Ighten Dahma wrote:
Can see the arguments for but it does seem a bit bizarre to spend time on this.. You spend about 15mins in it before you trash it. And you hardly ever see one again... Lets hope they put as much love into the tutorials as that seems to be the biggest noob problem at the moment



I wonder how pissed off the people will get when they redo the shuttles. :D


I miss my yellow Gallente shuttle!