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I did the same on my first EVE character; blind luck landed me in a veteran pvp corp. Good times, wish I had stuck with EVE back then.

Guess what? The reliability of that is such that you will not see a huge migration of players to 0.0.

EVE doesn't make excuses for people's unwillingness to avail themselves of freely-available information.

This is why people still try to mine in Gallente space, for example.

Then EVE won't get people the subscriptions, much less people in 0.0.

People got into and stayed in games like WoW because they could easy figure it out. Some people left, looking for more substance (myself included, coming from Everquest before WoW): those people are a minority.



Not meaning to be railing against anybody, just telling you why you don't have people in null.

It's not impossible to get into by any means, but compared to the linear progression that seems to be required for most people to progress in a game, you may as well ask people to climb Mt. Everest.

What? I never said EVE should be more like WoW. I pointed out why one got to 10million subscribers and why one never will.

As for progression: that's your point of view and perfectly valid.

My only point is simply that the harder it is to get access to content the fewer people you will have playing that content and thus nerfing high sec to increase population in low/null sec is not going to work.


And if anyone thinks my post means I believe WoW is the better game or some other such non-sense that I definitely didn't say: I have 3 active EVE accounts and my WoW account was given away in disgust.

I don't have a concern. I just saw some posts arguing about null sec accessibility and that nerfing high sec to increase population in low/null was what is happening. Maybe I'm slightly delusional (meant to be asleep hours ago...), or ended up posting in the wrong thread (had 3 or 4 open...). I think I skipped a few pages in the thread to...

Anyway: if you want people to play a certain way, show them how, don't turn an elitist nose up at them and say "figure it out". (this towards Mittani, self righteous much?) Off to bed I go...

There isnt a high sec nerf, its a reallocation of risk vs reward. If that makes sense. The more risk the more reward.
There are a lot of different attitudes about eve, and most quite polarising. I think the issue is that we need to let peopel find their feet in their own time. One argument is that if you want to play in high sec you have that choice, but you wont have access to all the content i.e. risk reward which is a cornerstone of eve so im told. The other oposing argument is im paying for content, gimmie.

As a new player i am siding with risk/reward. If you want high sec safe, put it on another server, its the only way and that would be ****. So we have the situation we are in now.

Lowsec is not a gate wau to null however and if you are interested in industry/minning however and not PVP how do you make that move? as a small corp it seems, from what i have been told, to make that move without PL (whom have assploded me the most, although always polite and friendly about it and giving me tips on what to fit for pvp, which i natural check against friends and battle clinic), the goons (one of my closest friends and a very long term eve vet pointed out that syndicate is a crap place to start out in becasue of them, i trust him and his opinion, feel free to correct me.) and other alliances mudering the little guys..

From real world and eve world this is as it should be, however when you get into game design issues. Majority have fun, new people coming in from the outside find it difficult to enter in at the ground level. Now if sov changes so that it is harder to hold onto large tracks of null that your not activly using this may make a big difference. Also more incursions in null will help force alliances and corps in null to stay focused on their areas, especialy if null incursion rewards go up as you will be fending off foriegn incursion runners.

Oh sorry rambling now, one other thing that really irritaes me is accusations of bot miniing in high sec. Now i maybe miss informed, by friends, Eon and local but dont most alliance bot mine just to keep up sov payments? If this is true and i am inclined to belive it, then that kind of hypocrytic behaviour is disgusting.

If someone would like to take the time to help me get my head around the reality of null that would be nice as i woul move a jump clone into syndicate right now if i though id have a chance!

Also what would make the game better for everyone? im not talking about just giving into everyone, but what would be acceptable for everyone? what would promotecahanges in behaviour in a positive way that would reward players form makeing changes rather than punishing for not? I teach kids with Autism btw and using positrive renforcement works, negative renforecment leads to arguments and stress.... hmm see what i did there?

(Btw: Anyone seen a reason from a GM or Dev why they are shoving all the CMS threads in here?)

Newly made?

Huhn?

The CSM section of the forums dedicated to CSM-related issues has been around for a long time, and all CSM-related material has been moved to the CSM-related section of the forums since that section was created specifically for such topics and discussions.

I hope that's clear enough.

Whatever makes more money wins.


The optimum business model is to keep the people in empire happy and the people in null sec happy. To produce mindless carebears that do nothing but pile up ISK and idiot Nullbears who do the same thing in 0.0, flying in massive fleets like sheep, thinking that they are better because they do.



More subscriptions!
Down with the "EVE Faith Religion!"


Grow up tools and get a life outside of this MMO.


P.S.
Yes you can do both.