Jita Park Speakers Corner

Making a generalization of the "largest state" in terms of size, in order to make an metaphorical argument is usually acceptable to people not as anal retentive as you.


It's the size of Texas Mr President!
But wait its Spherical! Thus it has far more mass then a "flat" object would and your representation of it's size is epic fail Billy Bob thornton!

I don't have a problem with high-end ores in wormholes at all - surely there's just enough ore being mined out of there that we can shoot other dudes instead of having to grind up industrial indexes and mine it ourselves (not really, most high-ends come from compound drops in the drone regions AFAIK) I could see why some would have a problem with them being in low-class wormholes, though, being much too accessible from highsec without the :effort: of arranging cynos and whatnot.

Split the vote by region? Have CSM positions that reflect the regions of space to try prevent it getting imbalanced in any one direction.

It wouldn't matter if there was two representatives of every type of space. People just vote as much as they like for the different candidates, those standing for high sec, low, etc.

So ... in light of the recent article ... was this thread the cause of it or did I just see it coming?

What are your views on the CSM?

wonderful web team, love that ganked message


given that sanctums etc were nerfed because as I see on the forums all the time "they were making more money than lvl 4s in high sec qqqqqq"

That oughta tell you something Id think

Being that youre new Id say google "T20 EVE"and "Devs and the friends they keep" (see below) for a record as to why its bad for CCP employees to be in the biggest alliances in EVE

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/op-ed/847-Jumpgate-EVEs-Devs-and-the-Friends-They-Keep

Look this whole war between null and the rest is starting to get really annoying. I enjoy high sec cause I came to this game with 0 friends and made friends that are in high sec... and frankly I haven't met but a few pilots that have a maturity level high enough that I would follow them out on low/null runs.
Both sides need to admit the other exists for a reason. There will never be a point in which null sec wont exist or high sec wont exist... so everyone just needs to get over themselves.

The reason Null sec rules the CSM is cause high sec has no mechanic that helps unite it. Up until incursions, high sec was pretty much all solo work. So high sec players need to realize that it is unlikely that they will be able to get anyone on CSM since their voting isnt united.

Null sec players need to realize that alot of the issues with why "null sec is dieing" has more to do with problems within null sec itself. The CSM has done a pretty good job at pushing CCP to address these. But they also need to recognize that "bitter high sec vets" arent just gonna up and leave their homes to come out to null... neither are the newer players (at least not a massive amount of them). The reason for this has many factors... from maturity, to sentimental attachment to their ships, to some misguided idea that you need good skills to fly pvp.

One thing null sec players can do to encourage players to come to null sec is by being helpful and nice on the forums... by answering questions in game... and by being a good representative of their corps (ya i've actually met people like this). If CCP continues to have reasons like incursions in high sec for players to forum fleets... this will provide opportunities for players interact with individuals from all across eve and to encourage dialog and comfort with the idea of trusting the people you fly with.

Thanks to incursion fleets, I'm considering taking my logistics pilot and possibly some corp mates out to low/null sometime... And I feel like my case isn't solitary... that many newer pilots get into incursions... and just love the fleet format (especially logistic runners), so they find a way out where the real action is.

anyways,
Fly Safe guys/gals

From the business perspective.
When Hilmar said something to the effect of " pay attention to what people do, not what they say"
He was quite right, though that opinion might have been best kept to himself.
I'm sure he thought many times since.. "now why did I write that down?"
But we all say the right things at the wrong time now and then..
Like when my first wife asked me if I thought she should join a gym.

Follow the money.
Where are the majority of CCP customers playing?
Where are the minority of customers playing?
Who are the highest number of Eve customers?
Is the ratio of various playstyles evenly distributed and does it have to be?
Does the interaction, both in game play and game economy, require playstyle parity? I think no.

In online games in general, what is the ratio of pvp / pve players?
Dose the ratio of pvp / pve players require parity for a game to succeed?
What is the success rate of converting a player from pvp to pve playstyle or vise versa?
That is the.. 20 million dollar question.. which I think it actually was.

The ratio of pvp and pve players in Eve conforms to the typical ratio that I have seen in online games over the last 15 years that I have played online games.

I suggest that:
Eve is not broken.
It is typical of pvp/pve game subscription rates.
The game will grow with the same ratio of playstyles.
Nerfs and incentives do not alter playstyles, but do alter subscription numbers.
A change from left to right is like altering idealogies.. good luck with that.
Bob yesterday, goons today, the flaming dust bunnies tomorrow.. life goes on.
Enhance both playstyles, nerf neither.

Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI.
Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences.
Add something new and different (a new kind of wormhole with pie?) to experiement and see what happens..

Don't break what is.

OP updated with links and quote.