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Agreed. CSM should not be used as a lobbyist platform for any special interest group.

Lobbyists are the bane of US politics and a major reason why a minority of the rich and influential can push through short-sighted government policies which benefit the few at the expense of the many.

Bad enough in government - fatal for a business.

This was discussed extensively earlier in this thread. My suggestion was that a "jump drive reactivation delay" would be better than a "spool up timer."

For the record, I agree with Zax on this one - this is a very fair, moderate suggestion. It would solve the issue with rapid capital movement, without seriously frustrating logistics in populated system. If a change must be made that will encompass all Jump Drive ships (JFs included), then this is the option I would support.

Uh, wormhole folks didn't get a *full* seat (this time), but they do have a rep on the CSM (me).

I disagree with this to a large degree. First, the issue of not having 'enough people' in w-space or in high sec is simply incorrect. The real issue is that null sec groups and to some degree low sec groups are organized and communicate well the goals and directions they want to see the game develop within their alliances and coalitions. The nature of W-space living and the (relative) safety of high sec makes it difficult to bond together for the common good of the game. I'd venture even further to state that a large part of high sec dwellers don't even have a clue of the CSM concept and process. There's no sense of need to....unless the need is awakened in them, which is done through organizing them better. I'm personally taking steps to improve that with a new initiative but things like that take time to see the fruits of the labour. The 'awareness' has increased and that's already a good step.

The challenge of jostling for position on the CSM when you're up against the null sec power blocs is (and looks to continue to be) a challenge if we want to see representation from other parts of the game. This is a personal concern, not because null sec doesn't need developmental focus, but because the understanding of everyday life in other parts of the game are often misunderstood and as a result is at risk of having developments made that could have a pretty negative effect on those in that area of space.

Getting more back on topic specifically with the minutes, my concern is a complete or near complete wipeout of seats by null sec power blocs with some of the approaches being made for the future of the CSM election process. I say that and yet at the same time, why does the community get mad when they at least VOTE? In one sense we have no one to blame but ourselves for this situation but on the other hand, there will never be a way to change it without increasing the awareness and organization of people in w-space, low sec, and high sec together. Reducing the number of people that can run is a start to focus more votes but that only works when there's exposure and awareness of the other candidates. I could go on at length with this (I feel I have already? ) but let's just say the challenge is NOT null sec. The challenge is in every other area of space coming together for a common goal, but what's standing in the way of that happening is by and large....ourselves.

Increase the AWARENESS, then focus on the NEED, and then ORGANIZE the right groups of people regardless of their area of abode and hope for the best!

^ Absolutely.



My two cents....

So, with 1.1 patch on the 24th we're getting alliances in FW. Everyone that has weighed in on the issue in this thread and the patch notes thread thinks it is a terrible idea, and there has really been no direct response to that feedback. (correct me if I am wrong)

Personally I think it is like splicing apples into oranges. Can someone at least explain why it is such a good thing and how it will fit into FW in a way that makes sense?

It just seems totally out of place that a nullsec block can pop into FW for the weekend. I think that the militia should take a larger commitment and be a whole and complete aspect of gameplay rather than treated like a minigame.

FW isn't that broken right now it just needs a little chiseling instead of the jackhammering its about to get.

Real rewards for holding space, killing enemy militia, etc... these are things that would enhance a system that is already in place.

And personally I think It should be more viable to play a PVP only FW, with equal rewards. FW should not be a ground for farming PVE content.

Yeah, you do a great service for us, and you'll definitely have my vote, and the votes of anyone else I can convince next time. The fact that they seriously discussed changing WH mechanics with CCP, just to make it easier for blobs to invade AHARM is pretty damned scary. Much like with lobbyists, one of the big sources of power in politics isn't simply convincing people that you're right on an issue, it's steering the direction of the debate to that issue in the first place. I certainly hope they listen to you on this stuff, but my gut tells me it goes in one ear and out the other.

Wait, there are people actively campaigning for CCP to go back to focusing on WiS?

You must be lost. SW:TOR is that way ------------>

Leave the drake alone. It is a pve ship and it tanks extremely well but you sacrifice dps to get that tank. To get even decent dps from it compared to the other bc's you must drastically reduce it's tank.

1) Repeat after me: "drake is a bad ship"
2) npc 0.0 dont allow 0.0 alliance blobbing services there if large entities live and harass other large alliances whatever from npc 0.0 there's something wrong with sov 0.0
3) destroying stations: cool it's finally time
4) useless ship changes which make little difference like af eas whatever.

5) in csm election we should be able to vote canditate for some specific job like low sec representative which only gives opinions about that stuff. there's no need for mittani or seleene or carebear faggets lkie them to give opinions about stuff they hardly understand like low sec or npc 0.0 in that way ccp could get more feedback from also other stuff than just 0.0 blob warfare and tech moons and supers.

6) how about not taxing corporate employees and paying them instead. alliances should be working for profit together not just taxing some random chinese dude killing red crosses. imo it's pretty dumb.