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Incursions: CCP is too slow - now we will act

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drdxie
#221 - 2012-01-17 19:42:50 UTC
Killa Von Murderer wrote:
drdxie wrote:
Killa Von Murderer wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
You know. I have kind of changed my mind. Speaking to the fools in BTL that continue to spam their fits (Anyone actually enforce the 5 minute rule anymore?) Few actually give a damn as long as THEIR shiny fleet continues to rake in the cash.

They could care less that it is the nonshiny fleet types that are suffering the most from these interdiction and extortion. They wont be able to complete many sites being without being contested by shiny fleet after shiny fleet. Then again that is pure joy for some of those fools.


Yep, this has been my experience. Our fleet is mostly newer players in T1s with some Basilisks and a Loki thrown in. Yesterday we managed to do only three sites uncontested. The rest of the time we got out DPSed by shiny fleets who got the ISK and moved on.

Oh well, back to wormholes I go. Let me know when you guys get bored of taking down the mother ships. Lol


I joined a toon to a null corp. I fly a drake while most fly T2's. We got hotdropped by PL in capitals.. I can't fly one. That's not fair, let me whine on the forums how i am going back to HS.
Nothing wrong with T1 ships in incursions if they fitted properly and the fleet is FC'd well. maelstrom's, abbadon's and hyperions can put out decent dps. Its knowing the mechanics that wins the contest, not always the shiny ship.



Not sure what your point is? I was agreeing with the previous poster that now the number of available incursion sites has been cut, mostly T1 fleets can't out-DPS the shiny fleets. Before this we were doing totally OK without the shiny. Not raking in some of the ISK that's been reported on the forum but we weren't losing ships and it was better ISK than missioning. Plus it was good to have 10+ players doing something together as a team. Yesterday on the other hand we only got about three sites where we didn't have another fleet warp in and grab the ISK because they killed more Sansha than we could. The incursion interdiction is largely going unnoticed by the shiny fleets right now.

For me as a mostly carebear player the best option is to go back to doing wormholes. That's not whining, it's a factual statement.


My point is that you were out classed.. so you give up.. Make no mistake, I am a carebear too :)

Caldari Loving needed.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1608277&#post1608277
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#222 - 2012-01-17 20:03:20 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
knobber Jobbler wrote:
So to stop those nasty carebears doing incursions, you're going to do them instead?

Doesn't that make you carebears doing incursions as well?






Admit it, you are trying to goth-serve the forums, aren't you? Cool



Never. But you've reminded me how much fun it was back in the 90's to laugh at men in eye liner do that funny wavy dance to sisters of mercy at the local alternative club.
Barakkus
#223 - 2012-01-17 20:13:20 UTC
Krissada wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
So I see the bears have already ground up the new incursions to where the motherships have popped...Who's leading the next fleet?


the last mothership fleet ended in Darious III suiciding the fleet into an assault site so...
griefers griefing griefers?


The amount of stupidity and bullshit in the above quote is mind blowing. Straight
But don't worry. We are soon to be publishing some lovely recordings that our excellent cameraman captured.

http://recluse.me/uploaded_images/mr-burns-wallpaper-790221.gif


He's an alt of Joe Phoenix.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#224 - 2012-01-17 21:02:29 UTC
knobber Jobbler wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
knobber Jobbler wrote:
So to stop those nasty carebears doing incursions, you're going to do them instead?

Doesn't that make you carebears doing incursions as well?






Admit it, you are trying to goth-serve the forums, aren't you? Cool



Never. But you've reminded me how much fun it was back in the 90's to laugh at men in eye liner do that funny wavy dance to sisters of mercy at the local alternative club.



Jokes on them. Even Andrew Eldritch hated that goth label and at a HOB in Orlando back in '99 he wore a Starfleet sweatshirt as a way of telling everybody what a bunch of dorks they were.

I bet he would join our mom-takedown fleet if he played Eve.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Barakkus
#225 - 2012-01-17 21:27:46 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
knobber Jobbler wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
knobber Jobbler wrote:
So to stop those nasty carebears doing incursions, you're going to do them instead?

Doesn't that make you carebears doing incursions as well?






Admit it, you are trying to goth-serve the forums, aren't you? Cool



Never. But you've reminded me how much fun it was back in the 90's to laugh at men in eye liner do that funny wavy dance to sisters of mercy at the local alternative club.



Jokes on them. Even Andrew Eldritch hated that goth label and at a HOB in Orlando back in '99 he wore a Starfleet sweatshirt as a way of telling everybody what a bunch of dorks they were.

I bet he would join our mom-takedown fleet if he played Eve.



I think he would be an emo miner actually.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#226 - 2012-01-17 21:44:55 UTC
Barakkus wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
knobber Jobbler wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
knobber Jobbler wrote:
So to stop those nasty carebears doing incursions, you're going to do them instead?

Doesn't that make you carebears doing incursions as well?






Admit it, you are trying to goth-serve the forums, aren't you? Cool



Never. But you've reminded me how much fun it was back in the 90's to laugh at men in eye liner do that funny wavy dance to sisters of mercy at the local alternative club.



Jokes on them. Even Andrew Eldritch hated that goth label and at a HOB in Orlando back in '99 he wore a Starfleet sweatshirt as a way of telling everybody what a bunch of dorks they were.

I bet he would join our mom-takedown fleet if he played Eve.



I think he would be an emo miner actually.



And emo miners should join the fleets too if they fit a T1 BS the way they are asked to. Just don't let them talk in fleet channel lest we get a barrage of "nobody cares" and "what difference does it make" and other such stuff that will make me want to SD. As long as there are no neglected rose garden sites in the incursion system they won't be stopping to write bad poetry about it and hold up the op.

Speaking of BS fits, any ideas floating about yet for a good "mom takedown fleet fit"? Maybe another thread....

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Barakkus
#227 - 2012-01-17 21:55:58 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:


Speaking of BS fits, any ideas floating about yet for a good "mom takedown fleet fit"? Maybe another thread....



Bunch of buffer armor/omni tanked typhoons?

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#228 - 2012-01-17 21:59:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Barakkus wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:


Speaking of BS fits, any ideas floating about yet for a good "mom takedown fleet fit"? Maybe another thread....



Bunch of buffer armor/omni tanked typhoons?



I started a thread in Ships & Modules - well "group source" this with the EFT hounds.

I happen to use a armorphoon with logi drones... better facking drone boat than Gallente (IMO). Phoons: ugly and cheap. Ugly and cheap is good in everything except cars and women.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Barakkus
#229 - 2012-01-17 22:02:20 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Barakkus wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:


Speaking of BS fits, any ideas floating about yet for a good "mom takedown fleet fit"? Maybe another thread....



Bunch of buffer armor/omni tanked typhoons?



I started a thread in Ships & Modules - well "group source" this with the EFT hounds.

I happen to use a armorphoon with logi drones... better facking drone boat than Gallente (IMO). Phoons: ugly and cheap. Ugly and cheap is good in everything except cars and women.


Depends on if you want to be ridin' dirty.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#230 - 2012-01-17 23:09:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Keith Planck
Barakkus wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:


Speaking of BS fits, any ideas floating about yet for a good "mom takedown fleet fit"? Maybe another thread....



Bunch of buffer armor/omni tanked typhoons?


dear god i wanted to fly a typhoonFI in incursions so badly just because they were the worst ships ever
i was ready to fit officer mods on it, but it still barely got more dps then a maelstrom (not taking into account missle explosion radious or velocity)
http://onebit.us/x/u/Jason_Marshall/4f5f983f.jpg

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#231 - 2012-01-17 23:30:05 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
Barakkus wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:


Speaking of BS fits, any ideas floating about yet for a good "mom takedown fleet fit"? Maybe another thread....



Bunch of buffer armor/omni tanked typhoons?


dear god i wanted to fly a typhoonFI in incursions so badly just because they were the worst ships ever
i was ready to fit officer mods on it, but it still barely got more dps then a maelstrom (not taking into account missle explosion radious or velocity)
http://onebit.us/x/u/Jason_Marshall/4f5f983f.jpg



The phoon was my first BS and I have a hangar full of faction and dedspace armor modules from exploration in serpy land. Had some good resists.

You get used to the ugliness and eventually stop calling it "the trashcan" after a year. Been trying to get mine destroyed for a year but it's tough.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
gunnery
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#232 - 2012-01-18 00:52:51 UTC
SHAT... YOU ALL ARE SHAT!!!
LTC Vuvovich
Old-Timers Department
GF Company
#233 - 2012-01-18 02:07:37 UTC
High-Sec Incursions... take too long, ISK's being farmed, CCP too slow... this is all thats being reported, being brought to our attention, or having a dime being dropped on it ??? Oooh, there's a flash.

Try reminding all us miners, waiting any insufferable number of days & weeks for an end to an Incursion event., so that we can get back to what we do. Haven't I long suspected that Incursion activities were being 'milked' to no end... like duh. And by the way... does it or does it not seem... there is a disproportionate number of Incursion activities in Amarian controlled space?

But let's be honest...nobody likes a whistle-blower...even if you are right. There an old saying... if you can beat 'em... join 'em. Blink
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#234 - 2012-01-18 02:15:21 UTC
LTC Vuvovich wrote:
High-Sec Incursions... take too long, ISK's being farmed, CCP too slow... this is all thats being reported, being brought to our attention, or having a dime being dropped on it ??? Oooh, there's a flash.

Try reminding all us miners, waiting any insufferable number of days & weeks for an end to an Incursion event., so that we can get back to what we do. Haven't I long suspected that Incursion activities were being 'milked' to no end... like duh. And by the way... does it or does it not seem... there is a disproportionate number of Incursion activities in Amarian controlled space?

But let's be honest...nobody likes a whistle-blower...even if you are right. There an old saying... if you can beat 'em... join 'em. Blink


EVEN CAREBEARS ARE MAD AT INCURSION RUNNERS :O

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Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#235 - 2012-01-18 02:31:05 UTC
get a life

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
LTC Vuvovich
Old-Timers Department
GF Company
#236 - 2012-01-18 02:46:17 UTC  |  Edited by: LTC Vuvovich
Keith Planck wrote:
LTC Vuvovich wrote:
High-Sec Incursions... take too long, ISK's being farmed, CCP too slow... this is all thats being reported, being brought to our attention, or having a dime being dropped on it ??? Oooh, there's a flash.

Try reminding all us miners, waiting any insufferable number of days & weeks for an end to an Incursion event., so that we can get back to what we do. Haven't I long suspected that Incursion activities were being 'milked' to no end... like duh. And by the way... does it or does it not seem... there is a disproportionate number of Incursion activities in Amarian controlled space?

But let's be honest...nobody likes a whistle-blower...even if you are right. There an old saying... if you can beat 'em... join 'em. Blink


EVEN CAREBEARS ARE MAD AT INCURSION RUNNERS :O



I am quite certain that you are mistaken about the point I was trying to make., when in all actuality... Incursion events are an overall blessing in disguise. How dare I say that...? Let me put to you this way... it's more like Incursions vs Hulkageddon. I'll let you be the judge... Blink
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#237 - 2012-01-18 03:48:29 UTC
http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4860&tid=7 HEY GUYS WERE FAMOUS

on a side not:

Congratz Darious, you may just pull the votes that you need for the next election with this little stunt :)

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Lord Salty
The Classy Gentlemans Corporation
Moist.
#238 - 2012-01-18 03:54:28 UTC
I wanted to say, Good Luck.

I personally agree the goals of this thread and shall join in battle against sansha motherships......once i regain enough sec status P
Recoil Happens
Debatable Results
#239 - 2012-01-18 04:15:02 UTC
You go ahead and out care those carebears!

And then you can go after the SOVs who are milking the incursions on their turf!

And then you can break up the moongoo monopolies out there!

Oh wait, moongoo won't be in such demand if hisec players don't have a need for all that t2 stuff anymore...

Hell - Just get your pet CSM to outlaw hisec! That will "urge" those carebears into .... into..... well, actually, it will most likely"urge" them into dropping their subs..... Hell, thats ok, too! lessee.... how many accounts does that mean..... Might be some numbers around here about last summer that could be applied here.....
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#240 - 2012-01-18 04:28:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Keith Planck
Recoil Happens wrote:
You go ahead and out care those carebears!

And then you can go after the SOVs who are milking the incursions on their turf!

And then you can break up the moongoo monopolies out there!

Oh wait, moongoo won't be in such demand if hisec players don't have a need for all that t2 stuff anymore...

Hell - Just get your pet CSM to outlaw hisec! That will "urge" those carebears into .... into..... well, actually, it will most likely"urge" them into dropping their subs..... Hell, thats ok, too! lessee.... how many accounts does that mean..... Might be some numbers around here about last summer that could be applied here.....


I gotta say, eve is a sandbox, a lot of people are angry because not everyone is playing in their corner of the sandbox...
It begs a few questions about nullsec and the people who live there...

OH and...
Vote Darious III SCM http://mlfw.info/f/510/

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