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Oh, wow, so it all just "We hereby inform you we are going to be kicking over your sandcastles and all you will get is a bugfix that you should have been given when it was first reported in the way way back." Because once you have implemented the Alliance allowed to join Faction Warfare thing we are going to be stuck with it for ever.

I have loved alliances and all their shananigans not being able to join Faction Warfare. It was the ONLY corner of EVE where alliances had no place. Where the Faction that was fought for determined everything. Bah.

Ugh. Should have know the "Removing high-sec navy is a good idea for FW" guy was behind the "Lets make navy LP worthless and show FW the true meaning of blobs" idea

Once more:
Could someone (or a Dev) post some alliance empire standings (4) so we can get an idea of just how monstrous a barrier 0.5 is?
My theory is that they will be largely positive due to day-to-day ratting/mission activities of all pilots. There are only two ways that I know of that allows one to tank ones factions and that is the faction specific storyline missions and being in FW, whereas doing just about anything involving shooting generic pirate NPCs increases faction standings.

PS: Have you separated FW areas from high-sec nodes yet .. the hub pipes in FW lowsec is going to need permanent reinforcement .. just sayin'

Could you add new Neocom accessory button for the new compare tool. It is damn hard to access atm because there isn't even shortcut command available.

Thank you.

The weird undock / ships / items buttons behavior(showing up while in space, not working etc.) some of you have mentioned is a defect as you shouldn't be able to move those buttons at all. It has been fixed, but you may have to clear your cache for the fix to kick in.

With respect, if you can't do it properly, don't do it at all and wait until you have time to make a proper job of it. Fixing the silly standings bug (and thank you for acknowledging it is in fact a silly standings bug, it's only been around for a year and a half...*sigh* ) is great, but alliances in FW is not a fix nor is it a helpful addition at this point. Right now it is a way to make things worse, not a start to making things better. Adding alliances to FW, if you want to do it at all, is the last thing you need to do on the path to fixing FW. Not the first. It is akin to finding an injured person with a broken leg who also wants a boob job, and figuring that as you haven't got time to fix the broken leg, you'll do the boob job. It's silly.

You aren't supposed to be able to move them at all; they are fixed at the bottom as they are scope specific (only available in a station)

Only the dirty, dirty piwates.

Killing RP alliances is nice indeed. But I do think that it's not just going to be RP alliances that will take an interest in FW.

Partaking in alliance competitions would be a plus.



Yes, there are indeed already groups of players who work as you describe. This started to escape metagaming players using alts in the other milita to spy on the militia channel CCP gives upon joining a militia and has since evolved.

If established RP alliances wanted to get into Faction Warfare directly, they would have done so. As is these entities either influence the playingfield or individual pilots join Faction Warfare corporations for a brief vacation. So, not bad, just redundant and uneccesary.

What makes you think large alliances (wether or not they hold sov is a mute point since that line is arbitrary) wouldn't shift back and forth between the different fronts just because they can? It's the way to manage standings while in FW if you are just in it for a short time.

As is Faction Warfare is pretty much low drama for fast fights in small gangs with periodic large scale battles. Something I know most pilots actually partaking in the War part of Faction Warfare enjoy. Allowing alliances will bring with it entities that love to camp because the mechanics allow killing the enemy without any security standing hit and without gateguns or stationguns intervening. It would allow a host of entities that don't have the balls to go full on pirate to lurk around taking cheap shots at people actually trying to get good fights because they can still get into half of empire space and can simply change sides to mitigate any faction standing penalties. Particularly because the pvp activities carry the lowest faction standing penalties of all the activities in FW.

By joining militia it makes incursion running much harder, and incursions are much better isk than fw missions and market crash does not affect incursion income much, also alliances do not get much tax income from fw missions but they get a lot from incursions.

Thanks, Soundwave!! I wrote the post above before I noticed you had chimed in on this thread, I've been answering items in the order I come across them here. I appreciate your personal attention to this feature, and I think you'll be pleased with how having a healthy, dynamic Faction Warfare system compliments the greater fabric of the game when all is said and done, and hopefully it will continue to provide the smaller-scale, gang and sub-cap fleet based PvP gameplay that so many players crave whether they currently participate in FW or not. I promise you the work you're putting in here will pay off.

I still stand by my thoughts that this is a bit premature, that there are genuine risks, and I'm hoping that you've considered them. Maybe your team can clearly see given their set of tools that the standings requirement will ensure there won't be large-scale abuse of the FW system and community. If so, we'd love to know that. I totally understand priority order for things (My RL job involves managing a queue of service requests so I empathize with backlogs and triaging tasks) but a large portion of the FW community remains very apprehensive of Alliance involvement, its a highly controversial issue that is perhaps more divisive than any other. Any reassurance your team can give regarding this specific change will go a long way towards re-establishing a positive relationship with the FW community after years of being "on the rocks".

As to the consequence issue being prioritized over the capture mechanics (Cearain - I know you'll hate me for saying this) I think this is a wise choice. Even if plexes were empty rooms that simply limited ship entry and provided little "arenas" for battles of varying sizes, that serves the EvE community's needs for PvP on that scale. The problem is, of course, that most now don't see the point in bothering when there's a dozen other ways to hurt your enemy far more than changing the name-only occupancy of a system. Currently, even the roleplayers don't care enough about who owns what system to rally big defensives or offensives.

I can't wait to see Faction Warfare return to the function originally intended - new players and veterans alike should be able to hop into their rifters, stabbers, and phoons, find fights every night of the week in multiple warfronts, have choice as to what kind of PvP they want to engage in (What sounds fun tonight? Frigate roam through Bleak lands? or RR BS fleet to defend Auga...) and know that whatever they do actually affects the sandbox. EvE is sold around as being full of that "butterfly effect" but it shouldn't take years for a pilot to feel like they've achieved it.

Convince new players that the rifter piloting they do in their first few weeks matters despite knowing they'll never catch up to vets in skill points and you have a recipe for long-term subscription gold.

Looking forward to summer! Keep up the hard work!